NEW Fissure Of Woe SPEED CLEAR [Hateway]
Dag A
I meant for it to say it is as fast or faster than manly spike but I made a mistake sorry man. I will just go die now
Essence Snow
The world was flat until proven to be round. The earth was the center of the solar system until proven it wasn't. Flight was impossible until proven it could be done.
Proof means nothing..is about the most fail arguement I have seen in a long time.
The definition of "proof": the cogency of evidence that compels acceptance by the mind of a truth or a fact b : the process or an instance of establishing the validity of a statement especially by derivation from other statements in accordance with principles of reasoning....it's in the definition.....lol
If that doesn't help ya im sry..helping you is beyond me.
Proof means nothing..is about the most fail arguement I have seen in a long time.
The definition of "proof": the cogency of evidence that compels acceptance by the mind of a truth or a fact b : the process or an instance of establishing the validity of a statement especially by derivation from other statements in accordance with principles of reasoning....it's in the definition.....lol
If that doesn't help ya im sry..helping you is beyond me.
Schnellburg
Were talking proof in a game, not in real life applications. Don't stray out of context. Again I can go back and say I am the real creator of Sabway/Discordway/whateverway you wanna come up with. I can even go as far as to post builds, and defend them. The proof that what he posted is redway is easy to see, and alone with a couple of people posting that it is redway is not proof enough? All he did was drop an Ele for a Warrior, and called it his own.
His builds consist of Ether Prism, Tenai's Crystals, Crystal Wave, BuH. And omg Redway consists of those skills too! Those are the basis for the two builds, all he did was drop 1 PBAoE for another, and slapped his name on it. Not exactly too creative if you ask me. That would be like me taking Dayway, and dropping Aura of Resto for Fire Attunement and calling it Hauntedway.
The only proof he has is that he says he created this builds, I simply linked another thread that is from 4 months ago, and said they have already been discovered. How much more proof do you desire? I'm not saying the builds are bad, they won't work, let alone even asking for credit to be given to the right person, I'm just stating they have been discovered.
His builds consist of Ether Prism, Tenai's Crystals, Crystal Wave, BuH. And omg Redway consists of those skills too! Those are the basis for the two builds, all he did was drop 1 PBAoE for another, and slapped his name on it. Not exactly too creative if you ask me. That would be like me taking Dayway, and dropping Aura of Resto for Fire Attunement and calling it Hauntedway.
The only proof he has is that he says he created this builds, I simply linked another thread that is from 4 months ago, and said they have already been discovered. How much more proof do you desire? I'm not saying the builds are bad, they won't work, let alone even asking for credit to be given to the right person, I'm just stating they have been discovered.
Dag A
Sir I have never been in SCAR guild ever in my life, and I have never heard of redway until I posted this so thanks
Schnellburg
js333x
I was with him on the first go last night, even with mess ups the main team finished faster than the average PUG manly way group definatly has promise!
eonclipse
only thing different is the use of the war, and that the eles dont bring ebon escape. if u ran 4 eles of this or 3 OgVCkMzEdZYVq4SU2Ap42QQA and its redway.
js333x
Dag Z
Okay. Seeing as I'm not going to waste time quoting all of you, you know what you said. This build is less independent.. which means that if 1 pug leaves or fails, you don't have to suffer! We made this build for pugs, we could easily add a T3/T4 and get just as fast as you other manlys. We posted this to inform that this build is JUST AS FAST, if not faster, than a manlyway PUG team. Which means if you compare an average pug group of manlyway and a average pug group of hateway, hateway wins. This was mainly made to decrease the bored game that Guild Wars is becoming. I appreciate you telling us ideas on how to make the build better.
ATTENTION: Redway has no proof that they had these builds, so that comment is just bologna. Myself and Dag A have NEVER heard of redway until now.
ATTENTION: Redway has no proof that they had these builds, so that comment is just bologna. Myself and Dag A have NEVER heard of redway until now.
eonclipse
again here is proof of redway back in september, in SCAR forums, theres is a version for raggars, FoW, DoA. u want proof, check the date i posted this. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/k...ghlight=redway
so if u dont see the resemblance... i remember when this was posted on wiki and it got bashed cuz nobody wanted to try it.
so if u dont see the resemblance... i remember when this was posted on wiki and it got bashed cuz nobody wanted to try it.
Dag Z
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Originally Posted by eonclipse
so if u dont see the resemblance... i remember when this was posted on wiki and it got bashed cuz nobody wanted to try it. The title is also Kathandrax, good job. And LIKE I SAID "This build is made to have less, if any, fail pug groups. This build works GREAT and is difficult to fail.
feedmenow
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Originally Posted by Dag Z
[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]we could easily add a T3/T4 and get just as fast as you other manlys.
Ill challenge that.
Dag A
If you wanna get a T3/T4 dante I will be glad to do it and good terras 
Coney
I guess I gotta say, I'm so sick of the OP/noskillz mode that (pseudo) perma SF brings to this game.
The skill is totally unbalancing, and makes playing pointless (e.g. GOD MODE). I'm not sure why they've allowed this to go on for so long, or why they wasted *SO* much time and effort on UW to try and make perma solo ecto farming harder...
But I guess, if they nerf it, it just results in a bonder or two doing the same thing to the invuln frontline...
The skill is totally unbalancing, and makes playing pointless (e.g. GOD MODE). I'm not sure why they've allowed this to go on for so long, or why they wasted *SO* much time and effort on UW to try and make perma solo ecto farming harder...
But I guess, if they nerf it, it just results in a bonder or two doing the same thing to the invuln frontline...
Sir Nothing
Dag A
A solo ele with candy can spike solo I know this
Life Bringing
To compete with our manlyway times, you can only have a mt and 2 optional spikers. If a Warrior+ele can do this, then fine, but every spike will be slower than a manlyway spike, because manly spikes are practically instant.
Nobody cares if this is, according to you, faster than manlyway pugs. The finishing time of the main team depends completely on the main tank. If you have a crappy pug mt, it's going to be slow regardless. I've had 15 minute manly runs multiple times with just a regular setup, and we could probably push it down to 14 with a fortunate spawn.
Claiming that something is better than something else, with a 21 minute screen to back it up, proves nothing.
Also, this is redway. Face it. Idc if you had never heard of it, the same idea has already been done, and claiming credit for it is stupid.
Nobody cares if this is, according to you, faster than manlyway pugs. The finishing time of the main team depends completely on the main tank. If you have a crappy pug mt, it's going to be slow regardless. I've had 15 minute manly runs multiple times with just a regular setup, and we could probably push it down to 14 with a fortunate spawn.
Claiming that something is better than something else, with a 21 minute screen to back it up, proves nothing.
Also, this is redway. Face it. Idc if you had never heard of it, the same idea has already been done, and claiming credit for it is stupid.
Para Scar
Yup, this "Ele Spike" was done by Red Phyve back in July 2009.
Dag Z
Redway is similar, but not the same. I guarantee we didn't know "redway" existed when we made Hateway. Think w/e you want but it's still not the same. They have 2 sins, we have 3-5, they have 4 eles, we have 2 and a W1 so everyone stfu about redway, we didn't copy, accept it.
Sir Nothing
Life Bringing
Umm, unfortunately, you're looking at the Kathandrax version of redway, which is the only version that they posted on guru. It only has 2 sins because terras aren't needed in kath. The other builds were posted on SCAR's forums.
Dag Z
If It's redway, why don't I have 5 eles, 2 sins, and a UA? This is Hateway, now gtfo and stop trolling.
Life Bringing
fenix
....so adding 'way' to the end of ANYTHING makes you cool now?
Gah. Awful.
Gah. Awful.
Travaail
i would officially like to post No0bWaY where you take random crap throw it together and claim it has any efficacy to make it more preferable to existing builds. wait wait..nvm this thread has done that. also this is redway, the posters are fools, GL finding eles to pug this without you having to explain it to them, and as far as creativity...aoe ele just about completely uncreative. look up EVAway its more creative..slow and pointless..but far more creative. instant death spike>cast spike. kk thx now go fail elsewhere.
Schnellburg
You realize your just talking about FoW right? There is 3 tanks (or 4) in FoW, but in other areas there are only 2, and sometimes 1. I never said redway claims an Earth shaker did I? Don't try and put words in my mouth. You spikes are not totally different, redway everywhere else has a Earthquake Caller while everyone else use Teniai's/Crystal Wave/Aftershock for damage. So tell me how that is not that same. Oh but yeah they both have BuH, Ether Prism and Glyph of Ele Power. Am I and others starting to sound redundant or what?
Dag Z
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Originally Posted by Schnellburg
1) We have an earth shaker, they don't.
2) Our elementalist spikes are similar, but different.
3) Redway has no screenshot of them proving they can do FoW.
4) I highly doubt that a T1/T2, 4 elementalists, UA, and an EoE can finish FoW.
Schnellburg
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Originally Posted by Dag Z
1) We have an earth shaker, they don't.
2) Our elementalist spikes are similar, but different.
3) Redway has no screenshot of them proving they can do FoW.
4) I highly doubt that a T1/T2, 4 elementalists, UA, EoE can finish FoW. You are again missing the point bucko. We never said redway had an earth shaker warrior so point 1 is gone. 2, you said prove how this is similar to redway, and you just did. They use the same PBAoE and survival skill, Ether Prism. So good game. 3, Redway can be modified to do any area, even DoA, I only linked the kath version because that is the only version you can see without registering on the SCAR website, which even then you won't get access. And 4, a T1/T2, 4 Eles, UA, and EoE can finish Fow, you roll 1 Ele to SF tank and you can. Problem solved. Seriously stop trying to reach for new way to sound like your proving points because you clearly are not.
So lets discuss what we have learned here today.
1) Your builds are redway with slight modifications. Everyone but you seems to notice that.
2) You think you can match or do FoW faster with pugs then an organized Guild/Alliance group. LOL
3) You have been prove wrong and wrong again and yet you won't seem to admit it.
4) You make comments without thinking, and fail to read/comprehend others comments.
Dag Z
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Originally Posted by Schnellburg
So lets discuss what we have learned here today.
1) Your builds are redway with slight modifications. Everyone but you seems to notice that.
2) You think you can match or do FoW faster with pugs then an organized Guild/Alliance group. LOL
3) You have been prove wrong and wrong again and yet you won't seem to admit it.
4) You make comments without thinking, and fail to read/comprehend others comments.
I have yet to see a screenshot of it doing any of that. Oh, and remember when you said "SF ele"? Yeah, that's not on the post.. so unless you're hiding a secret redway post that no-one knows about but yourself, you're wrong.. yet again.
Memory
Hey I signed up on the forums just to respond to this thread; a few of us got together this evening and tried the build for fun; it was refreshing after all of us spending so much time using Manlyway, we completed it within a conset even after running into a few hitches, clearing the forge was a breeze until we hit the rangers at the top... Obviously elementalists having less armour got to us a bit but hey it was good for a laugh and thanks for sharing.
Schnellburg
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Originally Posted by Dag Z
4) I highly doubt that a T1/T2, 4 elementalists, UA, and an EoE can finish FoW.
1 point proven that your an idiot. You said 4 ele, yet didn't mention what builds they could run. Learn to keep up with your own posts and what you say in them.Quote: Originally Posted by Dag Z
This is just to funny. Okay, this build isn't similar to redway, it's similar to the PBAoE build. If you want to get technical, redway stole that build from the original creator, seeing as how the original creator is not the same person that made redway.
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Originally Posted by Dag Z
Redway is similar
You say this isn't similar to redway? Wanna eat your own words? Again keep up with your own posts. And you don't know who the creator is, so we will say Red Phyve because he posted them on GwG 1st. Wanna prove he stole them? Go for it and I will gladly call you master and obey your orders. Until then, don't make false accusations. Quote:
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