Is This True?

ccfrecc

ccfrecc

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2009

Wisconsin

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N/Mo

I go to Mahanti Keys all the time and I always visit the spot where a Teasure Chest always is. I got a gold Armor piece from it once. Now my question is: "Am I ever going to get anything from it again, because every time I check the chest, It is empty?"

Please Note: I am not refering to a chest that requires a key. Just a chest that you click on, and it opens and gives you something (once for me).

Thank You...

crazybanshee

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Look out!

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Stop checking it. There are chests like that throughout nightfall that give pretty decent stuff on first opening them. Wait a few months, then try again. They have to reset, which they won't do if you keep checking them. If you open it too soon and it did reset, you'll just end up with some purple junk.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Buried_Treasure

Explanation plus all locations of them. There is 2 in every "area" (ie, 2 in Istan (that island you start the game on), 2 in Kourna, 2 in Vabbi, etc)

ccfrecc

ccfrecc

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2009

Wisconsin

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N/Mo

I had heard something about "something" resetting but I must have forgot it was chests. Well thank you as that is what I needed to know. But on another measure... what would be an accurate measure of how long after I first checked it should I check it again to get a "Gold" item?

Thanks Again...

BuD

BuD

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Nunya

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfrecc View Post
what would be an accurate measure of how long after I first checked it should I check it again to get a "Gold" item?

This is from the link Hawk posted...

Quote:
upon opening one of these chests, a "magical force" will prevent that character from opening the chest again for approximately 30 days after the last attempt to do so.

Read the entire page & all your answers will be answered.

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Getting a gold again from a free chest? Never. You will ALWAYS get purple items the second time. No matter how long between opening. Including a full year.

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua View Post
Getting a gold again from a free chest? Never. You will ALWAYS get purple items the second time. No matter how long between opening. Including a full year.
Not true. I've gotten plenty of golds out of treasures I'd already used before.

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzjudz View Post
Not true. I've gotten plenty of golds out of treasures I'd already used before.
Ditto, though you will most likely get a few purples too

REDdelver

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Girls Pee Pee When They See [ME]

N/Mo

From all my experiences.....

The first two times have been golds always. Every time after has always been purples, but you still get a little coinage. I've seen where other people have claimed to get golds after the 3rd time....but its rare if at all.

ccfrecc

ccfrecc

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Join Date: Dec 2009

Wisconsin

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua View Post
Getting a gold again from a free chest? Never. You will ALWAYS get purple items the second time. No matter how long between opening. Including a full year.
Now I don't know who to believe... One person said I should wait about a month to get another gold item although that does sound like something Anet would do. Oh, And have this been proved by any tests/research?

Devastating Flames

Devastating Flames

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

The Canthan Defenders

E/Mo

i got golds my first few times opening them but now i get purples and a little bit of gold

ccfrecc

ccfrecc

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Wisconsin

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Devastating Flames View Post
i got golds my first few times opening them but now i get purples and a little bit of gold
About how much gold did you get from the chests (it doesn't matter where or what chest you got it from)? Also, So I should take a previous posters advice and wait about a month until opening it again?

Sora267

Sora267

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfrecc View Post
About how much gold did you get from the chests (it doesn't matter where or what chest you got it from)? Also, So I should take a previous posters advice and wait about a month until opening it again?
The game physically (or digitally, as it were) won't let you open it for another month, and if you try to, that timer will reset. Just run through to all the chests in Nightfall once every month or a month and a half (there's locations and maps on Wiki) and you should be fine.

BoxOfCox

BoxOfCox

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2009

CA

Wars

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua View Post
Getting a gold again from a free chest? Never. You will ALWAYS get purple items the second time. No matter how long between opening. Including a full year.
This is untrue, after getting back from my 1+ year ban I opened the free chests for the 2nd/3rd time and got an abundance of golds.

ccfrecc

ccfrecc

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2009

Wisconsin

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N/Mo

It mostly sounds like:
  • You can get golds after the 2nd+ time of opening a free chest
  • You should wait every month before opening a chest otherwise the timer resets and you have to wait another month
  • If you wait longer than a month you are most likely to get more items from the chests maybe even a couple of golds if you wait 6 months+
That's my summary of everything said here and how I take it... I appreciate all your responses and posts to my questions...

Thanks Guys...

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

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I get golds from those chests more often than not.

Anyway, best to wait a few months before reopening one of those chests. I tend to forget about them completely, so I go two-three months between opening them.

The quality of the items you get from them also depends on where they are - the ones on Istan are going to have low level junk, whereas you're more likely to get something decent from the ones in Vabbi or the Realm of Torment.

HellScreamS

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2009

wouldn't you like to know?

^yea KFC just subscribed to me for 1 year^

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based on my exp so far, i've always got 1.5k gold at least and always gold items, opened a total of like 7 chests so far, I never could be arsed to run em monthly. But if those statistics help, there you go.

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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I got golds from my first chest, then had to wait over 9 months for a rest including severa 2 and 3 month breaks without trying, when it finally did reset I only get junk purples now. I rarely ever try as I get more for killing a sigle level 24+ mob.

The wiki article is worthless junk and myth, just ignore it.

Bulletproof Maniac

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2009

We Carry Diseases [rat]

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Just forget about it its not worth your time waiting and thinking about it for months and then getting some purple crap. There are far more worthwhile things to do.

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxOfCox View Post
This is untrue, after getting back from my 1+ year ban I opened the free chests for the 2nd/3rd time and got an abundance of golds.
They reset the chest drops last Jan., which created the illusion that if you wait a long time the drops get better.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Every time you open a particular chest and get something, that something will be of a lesser value than what you got from it the previous time. The length of time between chest opening has no bearing on drop values.

The link HawkofStorms provided explains all that stuff, and more!

Anduin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge

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Like it has been said in here:

The first 2-3 times will give golds and decent money (usually, but the first time it's for certain). After that, it usually isn't worth the time and effort.

My ranger, who didn't get past Kourna before being deleted, would check every month and get golds, even after the third time (I think I opened the ones in Istan at least 4 or 5 times each), but he had never opened all of them in the game, nor had he beat the last mission.

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

you really need to read that link. you HAVE to wait a month that is the time it needs to reset it. and yeah the first few times you can get golds but after that you will get grapes. doesnt matter how long you wait 1month or a year if you keep doing it the money amount will go down along with the quality of the item. and sometimes you will get gems but thats more likely on the mainland ones.

scratchdude

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

Dear ccfrecc, you seem to take things a little seriously : after going through the whole nightfall campaign, you will have probably found about 100 gold items, which aren't worth anything most of the time. Buried treasures aren't even worth checking, cause they drop stuff that you can buy from the playerbase market at a relatively low cost. Once you will have farmed gold a little, you will understand that having interest in buried treasures that can be looted once a month or Istani low cost chests isn't worth it : there are some much greater and important things in Guild Wars. For the time being, I suggest you to level your Dervish to 20, finish the storyline (which is great by the way), and do some HM stuff. 99% of GW content is after lvl 20, in "high-end" areas (including HM) and titles. Believe me, level your derv and stop losing time on small questions like these!

ccfrecc

ccfrecc

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2009

Wisconsin

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by scratchdude View Post
Dear ccfrecc, you seem to take things a little seriously : after going through the whole nightfall campaign, you will have probably found about 100 gold items, which aren't worth anything most of the time. Buried treasures aren't even worth checking, cause they drop stuff that you can buy from the playerbase market at a relatively low cost. Once you will have farmed gold a little, you will understand that having interest in buried treasures that can be looted once a month or Istani low cost chests isn't worth it : there are some much greater and important things in Guild Wars. For the time being, I suggest you to level your Dervish to 20, finish the storyline (which is great by the way), and do some HM stuff. 99% of GW content is after lvl 20, in "high-end" areas (including HM) and titles. Believe me, level your derv and stop losing time on small questions like these!
That is proably the most knowledgeable post I have read on these forums yet. And yes, I do tend to take things a little to seriously sometimes, but hey were all human. Oh, and I am not anywhere near farming for golds yet...... But I hope to be in a couple of months as I have loads of studying to do for the upcoming finals. Thank you...

And also, to everyone else, I also wish to thank you for taking the time to post your responses, but as for "scratchdude", that was a very informative post...

Thank You All!

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~ View Post
Every time you open a particular chest and get something, that something will be of a lesser value than what you got from it the previous time. The length of time between chest opening has no bearing on drop values.
I believe it is not exactly like that: it is not about particular chest, but rather about each chest open.

I had several characters in kammadan and was able to be gold items from two istan chests five times on ~4 characters.

When i progressed some of those characters throught campaign, drop quality went down, eventually getting purple in desolation chest when it was open first time.

tasha

tasha

Auctions Mod

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

Mystic Spiral [MYST]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfrecc View Post
Oh, And have this been proved by any tests/research?
Possibly a little late as your question has been answered but just to chip in... I did start gathering some statistical drop research a while ago just running across my characters, but got bored and stopped after gathering only a little data. Link. Yellow indicates a Gold drop, Purple a purple drop (shockingly....), Red = ruby and blue = sapphire. Crosses mark where there was either no drop because the chest had been opened too recently or I couldn't remember what I got by the time I got back to town.

My Ranger was my primary character at the time and had opened the chest several times (around 4) more than any other character there. As you can see she got a lot fewer gold items than the other characters I ran.

All characters were run from the highest end chest to the lowest end chest (starting in Realm of Torment and finishing up in Istani) This was done because of rumours at the time that the quality of drops diminished as you opened more of them, so I wanted to get the highest possible quality drops first. This wasn't the same phenomenon as opening (for example) the Mirror of Lyss chest over the course of 6 months, but rather that the order of opening the chests mattered. As you opened the chests each month the quality would go down with each successive chest opened. Note again: this was rumour, I don't think it was ever proven but is supported by the above poster.

scratchdude is right though, mostly the chests drop junk. I've never had a "decent" drop from it besides a ruby or sapphire. Now a days I only open the chests if I'm going past them rather than purposely making a trip for them.

isildorbiafra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Netherlands

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The chance of droping max golds is determined by weather you are running Hard Mode or not. Its just like loot drops. Hard Mode will more likely drop you golds.

drkn

drkn

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2009

Wroc??aw, Poland

Midnight Mayhem

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it's like you were asking if opening a chest in eotn has some secret value of retaining a lockpick than normal. it's all random. the fact that some people got purple items from several chests in a row proves nothing. the fact that some people got only golds, even when revisiting, with only few purples in total, proves nothing. it's just random. why wouldn't it? who really thinks that anet would waste more time and money to code a super secret algorithm for some free chest drops? it's must be something kept simple, as pure randomness.
the sole fact that i always break lockpick in echovald forest in nm while i had two chest runs outside boreal when i opened over ten chests with a single pick means nothing either.

i'm much more curious about the reset thing, though. don't think it's totally random here - it should be connected to something, me thinks. i'm pretty sure that some other data in the servers resets as well, same as some machines have to be rebooted from time to time, even if we're not talking about a general, global maintenance of everything they have out there. any guesses why it's a month or month and a half and not two weeks, two months or any other value? as far as i noted, it's not set in stone - it's not always 30 or 50 days. usually something between.

BuD

BuD

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Nunya

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by isildorbiafra View Post
The chance of droping max golds is determined by weather you are running Hard Mode or not. Its just like loot drops. Hard Mode will more likely drop you golds.

This is so not true. It doesn't matter NM or HM, they will be same either way.

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by drkn View Post
it's like you were asking if opening a chest in eotn has some secret value of retaining a lockpick than normal. it's all random. the fact that some people got purple items from several chests in a row proves nothing. the fact that some people got only golds, even when revisiting, with only few purples in total, proves nothing. it's just random. why wouldn't it?
I don't believe that's true. Though the drops "might" be random, it's obvious looking at how much gold drops that you are getting a reduction of the quality of items everytime you open the chest. When I have eight chars getting treasure, it can't be coincidence that 1k from a chest drops to 400, or when a 3k drop changes into 1.2k.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

I'm hitting at about a 60% gold drop rate from these chests, but then again I don't check them every single month.

ccfrecc

ccfrecc

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2009

Wisconsin

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by tasha View Post
scratchdude is right though, mostly the chests drop junk. I've never had a "decent" drop from it besides a ruby or sapphire. Now a days I only open the chests if I'm going past them rather than purposely making a trip for them.
That's exactly what I had been doing--Going past--except I tend to follow this route and on my way I stop by and check the chest... But, during the time in Mehanti Keys, I am basically SunSpear Point Farming (which I probably should have mentioned earlier). But pretty much, I just follow that route every time and get the "Blessings" from the SunSpear Scouts. I like to kill all the mobs there---!

BlueNovember

BlueNovember

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTS GW2 items for Zkey

Mo/

You can get a purple the first time.

I ran 5-6 chests on a few characters very quickly, then a character who had not opened a chest before (area around it was unexplored, so I am quite certain) got a purple from it .

Seems they're designed to be tricky to farm.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

I have opened all 12 chests on all 10 of my characters at least 5 times each. From my EXPERIENCE.... what I have actually seen, not heard.....

1) waiting 31 days or more will allow you to get another item from the chest
2) repeated openings decreases the value of what you get. I got approximately 20-24 gold items from the 12 chests (2 each roughly) then I got purples. Once I got a purple from one, I NEVER got another gold from any of the chest. Even the gold you get decreases, basically after the 2nd openings.
3) although the drop of gold items diminishes, gem drops do not appear to decrease.
4) it doesn't matter which chest you open, the TOTAL number of chests opened seems to qualify the possible drop. Since the Torment chests have 'better' drops, it would be 'best' to ONLY open the ones in Torment, at least until the purples start showing up.
5) it is character based, not account based. So 2 different characters can open the same chest on the same day with no problems.