As I recall we had a number of posts in the past of some users being banned either for account fraud, accidental termination, etc etc. What makes me wonder about all of this is most players who have this game have something invested in it, be it several campaigns, bonus packs, unlocks, ingame items... I'm curious as to what is it some of these players have invested and had to lose due to their account being terminated?
I'm always up for the other side of the story....
What is your total investment loss from being banned?
headlesshobbs
Zahr Dalsk
I haven't been banned because I don't break the terms of the EULA.
Your move.
Your move.
CronkTheImpaler
The only thing i can imagine being really really tragic in any sort of ban or account closure is time lost. All other things can be recovered over time. But the amount of time invested in these RPG MMORPG whatever you like to call them is MASSIVE!!!!
I did a little informal poll query some time ago and 83% of those that responded said if they lost it all, they would NOT do it again. Its just too much of a grind. Again time lost is the one thing you are not able to recover.
Cronk
I did a little informal poll query some time ago and 83% of those that responded said if they lost it all, they would NOT do it again. Its just too much of a grind. Again time lost is the one thing you are not able to recover.
Cronk
Regulus X
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I haven't been banned because I don't break the terms of the EULA.
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On-Topic: I've been banned alot for verbal abuse and spamming [which I think is automated because there's no way in HELL that Anet's staff is going to look into the chat logs to look at the details in the matter... so they use programs to detect bad words and excess text in certain chat boxes to support "/report-(ab)users" in their quest to ban and exhaust player's patience and willingness to play anymore]. No perma-bans yet though, luckily. That's why I now intentionally misspell curse words and type in different words in each line every time I type in excess.
RedDog91
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YOU LIE! Either that, or you're just a conformist. Your move.
On-Topic: I've been banned alot for verbal abuse and spamming [which I think is automated because there's no way in HELL that Anet's staff is going to look into the chat logs to look at the details in the matter... so they use programs to detect bad words and excess text in certain chat boxes to support "/report-(ab)users" in their quest to ban and exhaust player's patience and willingness to play anymore]. No perma-bans yet though, luckily. That's why I now intentionally misspell curse words and type in different words in each line every time I type in excess. |
people that get banned for verbal abuse are generally banned for constant harrassment of another player
i.e. "you suck" "I did your mom" "gay gay gay" spammed repeatedly to same player and/or asking a player for personal info
Olof
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YOU LIE! Either that, or you're just a conformist. Your move.
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Curo
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Your implying it's necessary to break the eula to play this game?
You are not on-topic you are just telling us you get banned a lot. |
On-topic: guys who think they are cool because they wear pink are dumb.
YunSooJin
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YOU LIE! Either that, or you're just a conformist. Your move.
On-Topic: I've been banned alot for verbal abuse and spamming [which I think is automated because there's no way in HELL that Anet's staff is going to look into the chat logs to look at the details in the matter... so they use programs to detect bad words and excess text in certain chat boxes to support "/report-(ab)users" in their quest to ban and exhaust player's patience and willingness to play anymore]. No perma-bans yet though, luckily. That's why I now intentionally misspell curse words and type in different words in each line every time I type in excess. |
Skyy High
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That's why I now intentionally misspell curse words and type in different words in each line every time I type in excess.
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By the way, intentionally misspelling curse words is avoiding the chat filter, which is also ban-worthy. If you curse in allchat, just use the real words; as long as you're not cursing at someone, you shouldn't be banned for it. To you, though, this advice may be pointless.
[edit]Oh yeah, the topic:
Buying a game is not an "investment". You're paying for enjoyment, you receive said enjoyment, and (provided you're not banned within a week of making your account) you've probably received your money's worth of enjoyment. Therefore, anyone getting banned hasn't lost any "investment", at least not in terms of money. Time, yes.
Pugs Not Drugs
about $100 and 1500 hours of my life
headlesshobbs
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Buying a game is not an "investment". You're paying for enjoyment, you receive said enjoyment, and (provided you're not banned within a week of making your account) you've probably received your money's worth of enjoyment. Therefore, anyone getting banned hasn't lost any "investment", at least not in terms of money. Time, yes.
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TheRaven
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Buying a game is not an "investment". You're paying for enjoyment, you receive said enjoyment, and (provided you're not banned within a week of making your account) you've probably received your money's worth of enjoyment. Therefore, anyone getting banned hasn't lost any "investment", at least not in terms of money. Time, yes.
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I gotta agree with this. I didn't buy this game as an investment. I bought it to enjoy and have fun in my free time. "Investment" implies that I hope to make some money off it. I suppose for Ultra-ultra-ultra high end PvP'ers that is possible (without breaking the EULA) but I'm just here to relax.
I've been playing for 3+ years now and I've certainly gotten my money's worth out of the game.
HawkofStorms
What I've gained from those idiots/scammers/botters/dupers/and griefers being banned outweighs anything they have lost.
Edit: Not at all surprised Regulus gets banned a lot.
Edit: Not at all surprised Regulus gets banned a lot.
Eragon Zarroc
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That's why I now intentionally misspell curse words and type in different words in each line every time I type in excess.
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.....I lol'ed....
Shadowspawn X
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YOU LIE! Either that, or you're just a conformist. Your move.
On-Topic: I've been banned alot for verbal abuse and spamming [which I think is automated because there's no way in HELL that Anet's staff is going to look into the chat logs to look at the details in the matter... so they use programs to detect bad words and excess text in certain chat boxes to support |
w00t!
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What makes me wonder about all of this is most players who have this game have something invested in it, be it several campaigns, bonus packs, unlocks, ingame items...
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On-Topic: I've been banned alot for verbal abuse and spamming
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Alternatively, you could try not to be a douche in all chat. Just a thought.
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Fate Crusher
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Hate to tell you, but Guild Wars is a purchase, not an investment.
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The word can be loosely used and being a grammar Nazi about it is quite sad. Much like how you interpretting "investing" hours into playing Guild Wars. No monetary return, however enjoyment, titles and socialising (to an extent) are types of return.
On Topic: I was accidentally perma-banned 2 years ago because someone had reported me for verbal abuse (completely false and admitted by the reporter), but i had just after jokingly pretended to sell my armour pieces for runescape gold. the report included that, and after serving my 3 day ban, i found myself perma-banned.
I quickly got onto support, pleaded my case, they basically said "our bad". and i was serving another 3 day ban.
I was about to lose 2500+ hours, all campaigns, collectors Factions and Nightfall, BMP, char slots and my will to carry on with the game, with no way of getting it all back. But of course, the money doesn't matter, Guild Wars was always mega cheap, but with about 4000 hours of game time presently it would be a headache or 7 to lose it all for nothing.
Phaern Majes
Anet won't ban you for using swear words, they provide a chat filter for that. If people don't like seeing them they can simply turn that on. Intentionally subverting the chat filter can get ya banned if anyone takes the time to report you.
That said, using swear words even correctly, to harass someone will still net a ban. Just don't single people out and spell correctly and your fine. At least I've never been banned and I use profanity quite often when I type in chat.
That said, using swear words even correctly, to harass someone will still net a ban. Just don't single people out and spell correctly and your fine. At least I've never been banned and I use profanity quite often when I type in chat.
garethporlest18
Actually Phaern, I'm pretty sure just about everyone who reports for swears takes it off intentionally looking forward to reporting for swears. Because as Skyy said, people who play this game are douches.
HawkofStorms
No... I don't mind the occasional swear or outburst, and generally, neither does a.net.
It's the pro-Nazi, 30 minute long racist triad that gets you banned.
It's the pro-Nazi, 30 minute long racist triad that gets you banned.
Dzjudz
Nobody cares about banned people. /endthread.
Mustache Mayhem
got rage banned for my names last time.. think it was like 2 weeks- cause logged in with my character "the buttraper" and forgot to go in the international dist.. some 2 year old got me 
then they wanted to change all my characters names after that.. kinda neat cause all my weps and armor say the buttraper on them but I have a different name
then they wanted to change all my characters names after that.. kinda neat cause all my weps and armor say the buttraper on them but I have a different name
Bob Slydell
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Hate to tell you, but Guild Wars is a purchase, not an investment.!
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I haven't lost any part of my investment, because I've followed the rules, didn't act like a fool and get banned.
I know it's hard to believe it, but I haven't. Being banned is a trend in Guildwars. Luckily for me, I don't follow trends.
QueenofDeath
Well except for the origional Prophecies I got all the expansions for a song from specials and discount pricings. I haven't spent $100 on the whole series total so it wouldn't be a major loss if I got banned but I ain't got banned and don't do things that would get me banned. The major loss would be all the stuff I've aquired over the years, but, if that happened I wouldn't start over anyways as the game is already boring enough without having to start over. I gave up a heck of a lot more when I left EQ and SWG and DAOC as I put in many years of play there also as well as their monthly fees. Something I will never do again is pay a monthly fee to play a game.
Arduin
I guess $200 plus a lot of time... if I get banned. But then again, it's not like I'll loose my achievements if I would never be able to play GW again. I just wouldn't be able to flash it in people's faces.
mrmango
I don't think of GW as an investment unless I did anti-EULA activities like RMT.
Ganks
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It's the pro-Nazi, 30 minute long racist triad that gets you banned.
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Purchase =/= Investment
You purchased a CDkey and CD, and were allowed to install ArenaNet's game as well as given access to ArenaNet servers. Given the popularity of the game, considering there is no monthly fees, I think it's safe to say that ArenaNet didn't really care about your opinion before all this, and the fact that there are no monthly fees mean they care a lot less.
The bottom line is that you paid for access to the game, the game itself doesn't belong to you, it belongs to ArenaNet and you just paid for the CD, CDcase, CDkey and Box. That access was terminated when you decided to go anarchist and say the first thing that comes to your head in a game that has no monthly fees. You should've thought of that. It's one thing to be open minded and outspoken, it's another thing to be a complete idjit annoying every other person you come across in a video game designed for entertainment purposes. The game itself doesn't belong to you, you were simply allowed the rights to install the game through that CDkey. You still have your CDkey, but unfortunately your big mouth forced them to cut the access they had so graciously given you in a game that has no "Private Servers".
GGQQkthxbye
BlueNovember
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Every purchase is an investment.
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hate to tell you, Purchase = Investment[sic].
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You guys sound like politicians who can't use the word "spend"; "investing" in Health care. "Investing" in Education. Rubbish.
You don't "invest" in food and you don't "purchase" savings accounts.
thedarkmarine
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...What?
You guys sound like politicians who can't use the word "spend"; "investing" in Health care. "Investing" in Education. Rubbish. You don't "invest" in food and you don't "purchase" savings accounts. |
Malician
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QFT
Also; Purchase =/= Investment You purchased a CDkey and CD, and were allowed to install ArenaNet's game as well as given access to ArenaNet servers. Given the popularity of the game, considering there is no monthly fees, I think it's safe to say that ArenaNet didn't really care about your opinion before all this, and the fact that there are no monthly fees mean they care a lot less. The bottom line is that you paid for access to the game, the game itself doesn't belong to you, it belongs to ArenaNet and you just paid for the CD, CDcase, CDkey and Box. That access was terminated when you decided to go anarchist and say the first thing that comes to your head in a game that has no monthly fees. You should've thought of that. It's one thing to be open minded and outspoken, it's another thing to be a complete idjit annoying every other person you come across in a video game designed for entertainment purposes. The game itself doesn't belong to you, you were simply allowed the rights to install the game through that CDkey. You still have your CDkey, but unfortunately your big mouth forced them to cut the access they had so graciously given you in a game that has no "Private Servers". GGQQkthxbye |
Access is graciously given? Howabout this: go form a company, sell licensed software, then cut off access to everyone.
I'll be looking forward to hear how you respond when fifty state attorney generals start reaming you at once.
For everyone else: Yes, the company reserves the right to terminate the license if you violate their terms of service. However, they're expected to live up to the spirit of the agreement you made with them. Blatant bad behavior on a large scale (looking for silly violations, terminating accounts without good cause) is no different from selling you a broken product, and is illegal.
(I'm not disputing their right to a legitimate response against a real violator, but rather the idea that they have no responsibility to provide continued service otherwise.)
Morphy
People that get banned are stupid.
uggsrock
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And here's the grammar nazi Fate Crusher was talking about.
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People that get banned are stupid.
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Kattar
This thread is terrible. The premise of the thread is to add up what you've lost if you've been banned unjustly. Let me repeat that last bit - "if you've been banned unjustly."
Seeing as how none of you that have been banned have been banned unjustly (as defined by the people that run this game), there's no real point in this thread at all. Truthfully it doesn't matter if you've been banned "unjustly" or not. You've been banned. Talk to Support or live with it.
For the above reason, not to mention to rampant ramblings delving far into the off topic which would be reason enough to close or delete this thread, this thread is now closed.
Seeing as how none of you that have been banned have been banned unjustly (as defined by the people that run this game), there's no real point in this thread at all. Truthfully it doesn't matter if you've been banned "unjustly" or not. You've been banned. Talk to Support or live with it.
For the above reason, not to mention to rampant ramblings delving far into the off topic which would be reason enough to close or delete this thread, this thread is now closed.