Auto-infusion

reaper with no name

reaper with no name

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

FaZ

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Isn't it annoying to go on an infusion run every time you get a new piece of armor?

Why not streamline the process by adding a mechanic that automatically infuses any armor worn by your character if they have completed the Iron Mines of Moladune mission?

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

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You can complete the mission without getting Infused.
You can get infused in other places (Ring of Fire, Abaddon's Mouth, Mineral Springs).

I agree that it is annoying, but it is part of the lore of the game, and anything related to GAME PLAY should not be automatic. If you want to face Mursaat without dying instatly from Spectral Agony you get infused. This is something that takes a little work.

/unsigned - it isn't THAT hard, and annoying is not a good reason for a change.

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

No offense but getting infused armor is already very easy to do.

Olle

Olle

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2008

Ign: Miniature Julia

Teh Academy[PhD]

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Agree with Cuilan and Magma, its already easy, it only takes about..10 min?
so /notsigned
lazy ^^

asb

asb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Europe

Me/

If you're really that pressed for time, let your hero run you to the cut scene in about 4 or 5 mins.

It's not like your infusion would need to be refreshed(which would be a cool feature if infusion had a broader impact on the game imo) or you're getting a new set of armor every 3 days.

/not signed because of disproportionalness

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

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nah, just making the game even more easier than it should be. infusion run required=fair and keeps a game mechanic that has existed since the beginning. it hasn't been changed before in the 4 years that people have been playing this game. no need to change it now.

LoneManWolf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2009

Mo/

it's easy as hell to do... keep the armor u have that is infused and go to where u get infused then change armors... OMG THAT IS SO DAMN HARD RIGHT?

Ralisti

Ralisti

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2010

CST

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remember the old days? 1 run for each piece of armor..

Be happy it only takes 1 run [:

Obrien Xp

Obrien Xp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2009

Canada

The First Dragon Slayers [FDS]

Its not hard to do, and how often do you get new armour anyways?

/unsigned
Anet has things that need doing before this is even considered

However, I do see how one could find this irritating. Its just that the amount of times I get new worth infusing armour is like 2 times a year for the whole account.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

/notsigned

It doesn't take long, it's not hard, and people have been fine for almost 5 years now.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

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I'm pretty sure I've beaten all mursaat related stuff where no one in the party was infused.

Even then an infusion run is incredibly fast and those of us who had to do it 5 times back in the day, we'll never forget it.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

It's only annoying when I've forgotten to do it and get blasted by Spectral Agony. OUCH! Getting it done is a piece of cake, can be done in under 10 minutes.

/not signed

Mordiego

Mordiego

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2007

Pozna??, UTC+1

We Are From Poland [Pol]

N/A

U don't rly need Infusion for 99.9% of the game. Basically- it's like 1-2 vanqs and 2-3 missions And if U feel like U need it badly- it takes 10-20 minutes to get it done.
/not signed
/signed for close

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Vanquish the areas with Mursaat. Complete the missions with Mursaat.

Never go there again.

Problem solved, infusion no longer needed, why would you want to repeat part of Prophecies? Is lowest quality of GW games.

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade View Post
/notsigned

It doesn't take long, it's not hard, and people have been fine for almost 5 years now.
I second this. Getting infused is not hard.

Morphy

Morphy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2009

The Netherlands

Not going to keep up with that anymore

R/

Infused should actually be removed from the game. That would maybe make those weak Mursaat somewhat less sucky.

Wakka

Wakka

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Northern Ireland

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Morphy View Post
Infused should actually be removed from the game. That would maybe make those weak Mursaat somewhat less sucky.
Better suggestion. I'd sign this.

Morphy

Morphy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2009

The Netherlands

Not going to keep up with that anymore

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And while I'm at it, increase Giant Stomp's KD duration to 5 seconds. Now that's a skill you'd have to interrupt.

And another one, remove Monks from PvE. It's so much more fun and challenging without them. Damage really is dangerous if they aren't around.

Honestly, this kind of changes is what would make PvE enjoyable.

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

Feel the need to re-visit this thread. I actually wish there was some sort of infusion outside of the current places. I could care less to play through prophs on every char (it sucked enough the 1st time), but would like to participate in WiK stuff while infused.

Maybe a WiK infusion run or something or an option in LA keep? As it stands now....one has to sit through multiple, mutiple zones of dialoge and run to and infusion run to complete an infusion run for the WiK stuff. It gets really old after 3-4th char.

Now im not saying make it easier....just less of the jumble that you have to sit through.

Amy Awien

Amy Awien

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

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Originally Posted by Morphy View Post
And another one, remove Monks from PvE. It's so much more fun and challenging without them.
There's a thought. Now you mention it, I did do a 4 man mission without monk, though I did put some resto on Xandra and a touch of prot on the MM. And some healing on Mellonni, I think.

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Honestly, this kind of changes is what would make PvE enjoyable.
You can try it out yourself simply by not bringing monks. Would also increase the amount of partyslots that can do damage.

Let us know how it went.

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
Maybe a WiK infusion run or something or an option in LA keep?
It should be possible to get a run from LA to Droks, possibly all the way to IMoM.

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

Quote:
Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
Maybe a WiK infusion run or something or an option in LA keep?
What for? You can only access the WiK Quests and spawns if you have completed Prophs... adn that means you need to have at least gained access to the Ring of Fire mission where you can get an infusion for any armor you have equiped.

Mintha Syl

Mintha Syl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2010

It was a bad suggestion before and it still is. Until there's no other way to infuse lore-wise, that would really make no sense.
And, maybe now that people need infusion for WiK prophecies will be a less trascurated campaign

/notsigned

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

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Originally Posted by Rushin Roulette View Post
What for? You can only access the WiK Quests and spawns if you have completed Prophs... adn that means you need to have at least gained access to the Ring of Fire mission where you can get an infusion for any armor you have equiped.
Actually one does not have to have beaten Prophs to gain access to WiK. I think someone posted a flow chart on the reqs....I know that beating EotN and doing Thackery's Scavenger hunt are sufficient alone.

P.S. Prophs sux btw...worst of all campaigns in terms of re-playing enjoyment. (ofc imo)

Mintha Syl

Mintha Syl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2010

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Originally Posted by Rushin Roulette View Post
You can only access the WiK Quests and spawns if you have completed Prophs
Untrue, it looks like EotN is enough.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

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Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

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I see no reason to take away a reason to play any of the game. If infusion is required (which it isn't technically) and can only be done in one place (although it can be done in 4 that I know of), then that gives people a reason to play those sections of the game. I actually wish Prophecies had required primary quests to be able to advance, but wont' argue for it to get changed. Always wondered why people skipped large sections when they are fun to play. Yet people skip most of the jungle, often the desert unless a Prophecies character that needs to do the attribute point quest, and a lot of times all but Thunderhead and the last 3 missions.

Since you can easily be run to any place for infusion, it isn't difficult to still skip large sections of the game.

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

Just out of curiosity have ya'll done prophs 10 times?...It gets very redundant not to mention exceedingly time consuming when you're talking about mutiple, mutiple chars.

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
Just out of curiosity have ya'll done prophs 10 times?...It gets very redundant not to mention exceedingly time consuming when you're talking about mutiple, mutiple chars.
I've done infusion runs with six chars, one of those with three different armor sets. It's not fun and it takes extra time but it's not needed to finish the game and requires minimal time investment (what, 20 min?)

/notsigned

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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If you don't want to go to the Southern Shiverpeaks to infuse, then don't do it. Spectral Agony can be countered without infusion.

R_Frost

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
Just out of curiosity have ya'll done prophs 10 times?...It gets very redundant not to mention exceedingly time consuming when you're talking about mutiple, mutiple chars.
umm yeah i have got 11 protectors of tyria on one account, all 10 professions plus a 2nd ranger, and 4 other characters on a 2nd account that made it to the ring of fire. i also have done multiple infusion runs when i buy new armor just because its become a habit to do so after almost 5 years of playing

im not in favor of making infusion easier. infusing the henchies for the WiK stuff? yes. although another idea for infusion if the programmers had the time. add a NPC in Lions Arch Keep that checks your armor, if not infused and you need to infuse a piece or all of it the NPC then offers to teleport you to mineral springs just outside the ice imp cave to get infused there. you would still have a little fight to do before getting infused.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

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Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
Just out of curiosity have ya'll done prophs 10 times?...It gets very redundant not to mention exceedingly time consuming when you're talking about mutiple, mutiple chars.
Main account has 10 characters on it that have Protector of all 3 games and have finished Eye of the North. I have a total of about (didn't count, so trying to remember) 32 armor sets on those 10 characters that have been infused, and a handful that still need it. And that doesn't count the characters I have deleted that had gotten that far (3 or 4 I think).

It doesn't take long to do if you know what to do, and it definitely isn't hard.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

With the ease of the run, I don't see an automatic infusion as necessary.

I also don't see the point in adding an infusion run in early on for fighting the Jade/Mursaat. The content is essentially endgame stuff, and if you've played through the end of Prophecies, you'll have your armor infused, or have easy access to where you can get it infused.

NerfHerder

NerfHerder

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2010

It would be nice if they added a quest in WiK to get your armor infused. Or better yet make it so your character is infused, not the armor. Im sure Zinn could figure out how to do that . Ive changed armor on most of my characters and have multiple armors sets, since beating proph. Its going to be a pain getting infused 10+ times if its going to be necessary later in the WiK storyline.

Before WiK I could see this not being a big deal, because you would need to get infused anyway. But now with the increase in difficulty of the peacekeepers and spectral agony, its worth exploring an alternative to grinding your characters through infusion runs.

/signed

Edit: Henchies should also be infused in the WiK storyline, technically it occurs after proph so they should be infused and probably lvl 20. An easy way to fix this is that that stay the same lvl in an outpost, but change when you enter an explorable area, like in HM. Thier skill bars still pretty much suck, but thats another thread.

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
I also don't see the point in adding an infusion run in early on for fighting the Jade/Mursaat. The content is essentially endgame stuff, and if you've played through the end of Prophecies, you'll have your armor infused, or have easy access to where you can get it infused.
It is endgame for all characters, not just prophecies ones. Some of my toons have access to the quests but the thought of having to fight my way all the way from LA to the southern shiverpeaks just to get infusion discorages me from taking them through.

Mintha Syl

Mintha Syl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by NerfHerder View Post
Ive changed armor on most of my characters and have multiple armors sets, since beating proph. Its going to be a pain getting infused 10+ times if its going to be necessary later in the WiK storyline.
If you don't really want to infuse all your sets, you can just swap it when fighting mursaats/jades. I don't see such a problem in it.

Zenzai

Zenzai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

N/E

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Originally Posted by cellardweller View Post
It is endgame for all characters, not just prophecies ones. Some of my toons have access to the quests but the thought of having to fight my way all the way from LA to the southern shiverpeaks just to get infusion discorages me from taking them through.
Then don't fight all the way through? Last time I checked, Running wasn't a crime.

Amy Awien

Amy Awien

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NerfHerder View Post
It would be nice if they added a quest in WiK to get your armor infused. ...
They did add a seer to Kryta, but the Asura you brought in captured it/her/him for their experiments.

Morphy

Morphy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2009

The Netherlands

Not going to keep up with that anymore

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amy Awien View Post
You can try it out yourself simply by not bringing monks. Would also increase the amount of partyslots that can do damage.

Let us know how it went.
You have a valid point there. I did do this btw and I can recommend it to everyone on this forum.

jray14

jray14

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

NC, USA

Ohm Mahnee Pedmay [Hoom]

Wow, not much love for lazy people here . I have 11 characters each with 4 armor sets, most of whom started in a campaign other than Prophecies. I really don't want to do 30 or so infusion runs to do the remaining infusions. And having only 1 infused armor set is meh. I like to swap my armor around a lot with different builds: I have a minor, major, superior, and attunement/vitae piece for each attribute.

/signed

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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I won't mind having to pay... let's say 1 ecto to get infused quickly in the Keep.