A little request - What Legendary Vanquisher means.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

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bumble bee

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Vanquished should means that the area/map will be rid of monsters (red dots) when you enter them after one has achieved the Legendary Vanquisher title.

AN OPTION to enter map without monsters please.

thank you.

Popeye1906

Popeye1906

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2009

R/

Killling stuff is easy.

/not signed

Hyperventilate

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Join Date: Nov 2007

Somewhere in California

I Gots A Crayon [Blue]

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I like it. I could see how people would abuse it to get cartographer, although it'd probably be easier to get the two at the same time.

Horace Slughorn

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In answer to the possible question framed in the title of this post:

Legendary Vanquisher means you've killed all the bad guys.

Operative 14

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

Killing stuff is very easy, it's just tedious as heck.

Sometimes it's fun to just put on your hiking boots and go exploring. While I've never been one for vanquishing, this would definitely be a nice reward for doing so, like that one zone on Shing Jea (I can't remember which). There's so much of the GW world that nice to simply go and see, it would be really nice to have the opportunity to see it without having to stop every 20 feet and fight a new mob for a minute or two at a time.

/signed

Saph

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Thats what the areas are there for, you to kill things. An area with no monsters seems a bit pointless.

/notsigned

Esuna

Esuna

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Squee Squeeeeeeeeeeeeee [yay]

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Is this so that you can do chest runs without mobs over and over again? Even if you took those out, there's no point in an explorable area without monsters, like Saph said.

Divine Ashes

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LFG

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Originally Posted by Esuna View Post
Is this so that you can do chest runs without mobs over and over again? Even if you took those out, there's no point in an explorable area without monsters, like Saph said.
This and easier Cartography are the reasons why this will never happen.

I agree it would be nice, though.

KZaske

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

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This has got to be one of the worse ideas I have ever heard.
/NOTSIGNED

MagmaRed

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Not needed, and too many exploits for having it.

Turk The Legendary

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/notsigned....

Skyy High

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Jeez, just take the chests out then? For people who are going, "this is pointless," maybe for you, but clearly there are some people who would like to just wander around and look at the beautiful scenery without needing to kill stuff for a change.

obsidian ectoplasm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie View Post
Vanquished should means that the area/map will be rid of monsters (red dots) when you enter them after one has achieved the Legendary Vanquisher title.

AN OPTION to enter map without monsters please.

thank you.
gogogo chest farming?

xMinimalism

xMinimalism

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USEast

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Originally Posted by Hyperventilate View Post
I like it. I could see how people would abuse it to get cartographer, although it'd probably be easier to get the two at the same time.
That's what TexMod is for!

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Originally Posted by Saph View Post
Thats what the areas are there for, you to kill things. An area with no monsters seems a bit pointless.

/notsigned
Well, some of us are just screenshot junkies. We love us our sight-seeings. But I can see your point.

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Originally Posted by Skyy High View Post
Jeez, just take the chests out then? For people who are going, "this is pointless," maybe for you, but clearly there are some people who would like to just wander around and look at the beautiful scenery without needing to kill stuff for a change.
Isn't that what RL is for? (Italy is great!) I kid, don't be upset.

I do agree though; there are some great-looking zones that high quality screenshots would be great of; NPC bodies just ruin it.


As for implementing an option to be able to explore a said zone, I want to think they won't do that; their resources are pooled to Guild Wars 2 for the most part. (And, hate me if you must for bringing this up, but Shadow Form nerfnerfnerflol, where was that a year ago?)

Nerel

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Join Date: Jun 2008

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Hi Pumpkin, just wondering if you could give some reasons why you think this would be a good idea, what uses it could possibly serve and such...

If it's for cartography purposes, I don't see the point. Map while you vanquish, or go back in Normal mode with H&H, in normal mode no mob presents any threat to a group of well equipped heroes, you can just stroll around scraping map edges and your heroes will slaughter anything that gets too close... and you have the option of looting after wards if anything nice drops.

Chest running? that would be silly and exploitative to have chest spawns on a monster free map I'd think.

Some other purpose? I have no idea, but the word 'roleplayers' comes to mind...

Eragon Zarroc

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lol, would be cool. but conflicts with cartography and could also possibly effect the ease of many quests. also would make chesting way to easy.

/notsigned

pumpkin pie

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bumble bee

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you guys have no idea what this is, do you?

YOU ONLY GET THIS OPTION IF YOU ARE LEGENDARY VANQUISHERS. = you already killed all stuffs, god...., and if you want to kill all stuffs again, disable the option when you go out.

you will still have your map filled with monsters. grrr.

meaning its just an empty map, no monsters, no chests. nothing. an empty map

Shadowhaze

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Join Date: Oct 2007

Hehe, it is a nice idea. And I, like others, go a bit insane with screenshots at times. They'd just have to figure out how to maybe take out the chests and somehow not let people get carto with the clear area enabled or something. I donno.
(And yes, it is way easier to do vq and carto at the same time. I found that out one continent too late. XD)

Hells Fury

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Join Date: Aug 2009

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Hell yeah...
Also with max wisdom i can get everlasting ident kit , with max treasure hunter everlasting unbreakable lockpick , with gwamm i get freaking immortality and so on...

/endsarcasm

rokocoko

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Join Date: Aug 2008

E/

/notsigned

Don't see the point of this. Only for screenshots?

Reformed

Reformed

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell Darkblight View Post
with max treasure hunter everlasting unbreakable lockpick
You realize of course the irony in this is that once you do max treasure out there is basically no point in buying lockpicks anymore anyways. This is especially true on their "new" unlucky system (grumble grumble).

As far as OP's idea goes...couldn't hurt anything really just rig it so that you can't have people piggyback for monster-less cartography. I can see one major problem though, runs. Anyone could do the Drok run, for example, with an empty skillbar.

Morphy

Morphy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2009

The Netherlands

Not going to keep up with that anymore

R/

Kill the stuff that gets in your way. Not hard.

Implementing something like this just for those people that are too lazy to do so is dumb,
even more so because this can potentially lead to abuse.

/notsigned

KemikalRx

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Join Date: Aug 2007

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Maybe not just Legendary Vanquisher but for Legendary cartographer and Vanquisher. that way it cant be exploited.

also have it only for the characters that have acheived it. so if partied with someone that does not qualify the option is not there. (like the hard mode option)

Remove chest spawns along with all the other spawns.

Saph

Saph

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Join Date: Feb 2009

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie View Post
you guys have no idea what this is, do you?

YOU ONLY GET THIS OPTION IF YOU ARE LEGENDARY VANQUISHERS. = you already killed all stuffs, god...., and if you want to kill all stuffs again, disable the option when you go out.
And vice versa. If you want an empty area, kill everything again.

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Originally Posted by Skyy High View Post
Jeez, just take the chests out then? For people who are going, "this is pointless," maybe for you, but clearly there are some people who would like to just wander around and look at the beautiful scenery without needing to kill stuff for a change.
And I'm sure the developers appreciate that people enjoy the sceneries they have created. But I doubt they would appreciate having to recode every area in the game for a spawnless mode just so you can take screenshots.

Hells Fury

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reformed View Post
You realize of course the irony in this is that once you do max treasure out there is basically no point in buying lockpicks anymore anyways. This is especially true on their "new" unlucky system (grumble grumble).

As far as OP's idea goes...couldn't hurt anything really just rig it so that you can't have people piggyback for monster-less cartography. I can see one major problem though, runs. Anyone could do the Drok run, for example, with an empty skillbar.
Omg how didn't i realized that. I sat so many hours pondering about everlasting lockpick. /sarcasm much again
I was joking... but when you already mentioned it imagine how currently non existing imaginary everlasting unbreakable lockpick would sell for. Alot!, cause of free items !!!!
(i can't stop myself today)

Ralisti

Ralisti

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Join Date: Jan 2010

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yes, please do this. this way I could charge whatever I want for my vanqed droks run, just to add people and let them run the zones ememy free!

I don't even have to do the work of running!

/NOTSIGNED

MagmaRed

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie View Post
Vanquished should means that the area/map will be rid of monsters (red dots) when you enter them after one has achieved the Legendary Vanquisher title.

AN OPTION to enter map without monsters please.

thank you.
We aer still waiting to see a reason WHY. As noted, it opens potential for several exploits. Chest running, mapping, running to outposts for other people, etc. are among them. Even if you find a way to PREVENT those exploits, what is the reason for having an empty map? Screenshots are the only thing I can think of, and that is a pretty thin reason.

What is the reason for this?

DoomFrost

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Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Common guys, is normal mode that hard to clear?

/notsigned

Marty Silverblade

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I don't really see a benefit to this, at least not one that outweighs the amount of effort it would take to create it and ensure it couldn't be abused.

/notsigned.

Orry

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2010

Chests spawn with monsters, you can see this sometimes when there are pop-ups and a chest appears with them, taking out monsters would take out chests. If this wasn't the case there would be hordes of people chest-farming Zen Daijun.

Still, /notsigned due to killing monsters being what the game is about.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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I guess I would only need speedboosts for the Drok's run then.

Also to vanq you need only kill the mobs that spawned when the zone first started, pop ups don't count. As such I've encountered monster pop ups even after I finished vanquishing a zone.

Enon

Enon

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie View Post
you guys have no idea what this is, do you?
And you have no idea how ridiculous your suggestion actually is. As others said: free cartographer and chest runs? No thanks...

/not signed, because there's no need to make this game easier than it already is.

Aldric

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

[IG]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by KemikalRx View Post
Maybe not just Legendary Vanquisher but for Legendary cartographer and Vanquisher. that way it cant be exploited.

also have it only for the characters that have acheived it. so if partied with someone that does not qualify the option is not there. (like the hard mode option)

Remove chest spawns along with all the other spawns.
This would pretty much sum up the only way it couldnt be abused.

Wouldnt use it myself but i know some who would. Personally I dont think Anet would waste the time to implement something as major as this for the minority that would think about using it.

MasterSasori

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USA

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I like the idea because I like taking snap shots. I think people play GW without enjoying the graphics alot of times. But this can easily be abused (Running outposts, chest runs, cartographer) and clearing the area shouldn't be too much a problem.

with that said, /notsigned.

GWfan#1

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I like the idea, it needs alot of restrictions though...

Such as: If you are in a party it is required for all members to have the title/titles (Legendary Vanquisher + Cartographer 100%?) and no way for you gain gold, items, quests, etc.

I would like this option, perhaps we could call it "Playground Mode" or something lol.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Only if chests are disabled.

As for mapping, they can easily map once they've vanquished a zone so objecting to them being able to map the area later is somewhat pointless/malicious.

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

/notsigned
I'd love to hear a reason why this should be implemented, because I can only think of reasons why it shouldn't.

jazilla

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/not signed. the OP didn't think about this very well at all. I understand the intent, but this would make cartography/chest running way too easy. Think about your post for at least 10 minutes before you make it. It usually works, and when it doesn't, you don't feel dumb for what you didn't think about.