Super-secret builds, vanity or trade secret?

[epeen]Oh. And let me clarify. I do not use Asura Scan or "By Urals Hammer!" Those, imo, are a waste of precious skill slots (as a Warrior- I deal enough damage as it is with my set-up and 8-man build). Ever heard the saying "anything you can do I can do better?" It was actually a nifty commercial. Anyways...


I was giving the OP an example of how all PuGs are not automatically bad just because they do not ping. You all turned it into an e-peen contest, not me.


@ HighMinion: Actually, it's not a spear build at all. I rather lol @ warriors who don't stick to their own primary weapons. I simply weapon swapped to my spear out of habit from GvG/HA (check closely at the party list and you will see the second profession if not a "P"). TBH I have all Warrior skills so I dunno why I bothered to cover my 2nd prof.


So, exluding this post, how about staying on-topic more like what I have originally done, yeh yeh? Good.[/epeen]



On-topic: Now that that's out of the way... Like what I have already said in this thread: the ultimate decision is up to you if you want to kick them or not. Have fun and go crazy with it.



Anywho, I'm off this thread now. I forgot here on Guru a large portion of the people here lack the maturity to have a real debate or to stay on-topic. Having said that, It's pointless to argue with people over something so mute. :\

The point of a private build is to keep it a secret. Posting that "I have a super secret build that can do X" defeats that purpose.

Really the only point of secret builds are for farming or PvP gimmicks. The point of a PvP gimmick is to surprise your opponent and win by catching them off guard or without a plan to counter it already set, so it makes since to broadcast its composition as little as possible; though with lack of any updates gimmicks largely have all been discovered. The point of farming builds is to be able to farm zones others cannot or farm faster than others, these are more likely to exist as most types of farm builds are one or two man, if it is a well organized enough guild, even full team builds can be secretive.

But again to reiterate, the "I have this awesome build that can do stuff you can't and I'm not telling." defeats the point of having a secret build and is just e-peen waving.

People who do not share their builds tend to suck. When you party you should at least let the rest of the team know what to expect from you so that the whole team can work a little bit better together.

I've seen the odd build where i think "wtf does that do?" and then it really does well so i do tend to be very open with people (i mean its pve after all) and would never kick someone who pings a build i think is a little bit below par but i would kick someone who wont ping at all.

As for a 5 sec burst of 106DPS on a warrior? Kinda shitty for the main damage dealer imo, i can do that level of dps on my ranger for 180 secs abusing secondaries. Kinda irrelevant against a static lvl60 dummy though

People who keep their builds secret... (one or more of these apply)
...have a very bad or random build and don't want to show it for risk of ridicule/getting kicked ...have a PvX build but wants to look original (I have played with people who are this stupid, they do exist) ...have a somewhat efficient, but nowhere near optimal, build that they came up with themselves and they think is hot shit (see JonnieBoi05 in this thread, lol 106 DPS)

...actually does (0.001% chance) have a unique, revolutionary build but are such gargantuan faggots that they don't want to let anyone else in on the action ...fails to realize that everyone can see what skills are being used anyway as soon as you all start playing
Also wtf is up with people who pastes their builds into the chat bar instead of actually pinging it? No one falls for that crap.

It doesn't really make sense. There's no point in getting a title or whatever before anything else. The only competition that's worth it is PvP, and you can't just not use any skills in PvP, they're going to find out your build eventually, especially if you're out slaying everyone.

Besides that, if I have a build I think is good, I try to get others to use it if theirs sucks, that way there's less noobs in the world, and it's easier to complete a certain task.

Super-secret builds: builds that haven't been posted about or mentioned...

Anything else is just epeen, waving proudly like a flag.

Usually, if you are using a generic build or heroes; and thus not adapting them to the area with your team- You will most definitely not perform as well.

My stance on builds is that I love to share them with people, those who get overprotective of their "secret/hax" build are just morons in my eyes.

For silly things like Master of Damage contests I think its ok that you'd hide your build though

I can sorta understand this. A lot of times, if you post a build or post a screenshot that has your build in it, even if it is a fantastic build, you will get a lot of crap, immature comments about it.
Some guy once criticized me for 20 mins having aura of restoration (because, you know, a cover enchant is for losers). To avoid dealing with those people, I can understand the logic of blacking out a build on screenshots when you are using the screenshot to show off something else that doesn't have anything to do with the build.