reverse zaishen coin trading

Mikkelet

Mikkelet

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

Rt/

ok, so yesterday I really needed some fast Bfaction, but I've spend all my zaishen silver on zaishen gold, so my idea was: the zcoin gold trader would trade you 10 silver coins for a gold, and the silver trader would trade 1 silver for 50 bronze. =)

37er

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2008

Ibiza, Spain

[HOPE]

W/

Nice idea, however it might be 1goldcoin + 0.1k, not just plain trade.

Morphy

Morphy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2009

The Netherlands

Not going to keep up with that anymore

R/

I agree, slightly punish people that revert their coins.

/signed

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

This been suggested Dozen times before.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

Been suggested, but I'll respond anyway. ONLY if it costs more to revert than it does to convert. Doesn't have to be a big difference, but 10% more would be nice to discourage using it.

Xsiriss

Xsiriss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

Been sugegsted yes.

But why would you want to discourage its use? Seriously?

Artisan Archer

Artisan Archer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Free Wind

R/

Yes, why would you want to discourage trading back...?

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Yes, it's been suggested before. There is no reason not to allow this.

There is some logic though to increasing the cost slightly to transfer back (its not like the price to covert from bronze to gold is much anyway). Mainly so people don't take advantage of saving storage space by having a bunch of gold, and then convert back to bronze and take up 4-5 slots. Not like the price to convert back has to be exorbitant or anything (that would defeat the point).

Thargor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

It is a good thing noone in this thread is in charge of a bank...
take a dollar into the bank and ask for change and they give it to you, exactly a dollars worth.

What a bunch of idiots all these bankers are, they could be charging 10% to make change...

Artisan Archer

Artisan Archer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Free Wind

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms View Post
Yes, it's been suggested before. There is no reason not to allow this.

There is some logic though to increasing the cost slightly to transfer back (its not like the price to covert from bronze to gold is much anyway). Mainly so people don't take advantage of saving storage space by having a bunch of gold, and then convert back to bronze and take up 4-5 slots. Not like the price to convert back has to be exorbitant or anything (that would defeat the point).
Punish people saving storage space...? Why...?

The Abuzer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2009

N/

Because in this game (or any game), anything that helps, MUST cost you something (currency or anything else).

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thargor View Post
It is a good thing noone in this thread is in charge of a bank...
take a dollar into the bank and ask for change and they give it to you, exactly a dollars worth.

What a bunch of idiots all these bankers are, they could be charging 10% to make change...
Umm... you do realize banks make a profit right?

WTF do you think loans and interest rates are

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms View Post
Umm... you do realize banks make a profit right?

WTF do you think loans and interest rates are
lol'ed


On-topic: Sure. Why not? Wouldn't be hard to implement this, right?

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

ProTip: just keep your coins silver until you're ready to buy something gold.

Thargor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms View Post
Umm... you do realize banks make a profit right?

WTF do you think loans and interest rates are
Yes i realize that banks make a profit, and i never said they didn't...
We are not discussing loans or a line of credit here, no one suggested being able to take out a loan of z coins that had to be repaid with interest.
What we are discussing is basically making change, you put a dollar in the change machine you get a dollars worth of change back.
How you could compare making change to paying interest on a loan is beyond me.
And what is the arguement about storage space? Who cares what other people have in their storage? How does it make any difference to anyone but that person? There are some really ignorant arguments against this.

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post
ProTip: just keep your coins silver until you're ready to buy something gold.
That's what I do. I have roughly 3 stacks of silver coins. xD!

Frozy

Frozy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Isn't the current gold fee good enough?
I don't see a reason to add additional costs, converting a Gold Zcoin into 10 Silver Zcoins should have the same fee as converting 10 Silver Zcoins into 1 Gold Zcoin.

/signed

Morticia of Cyana

Morticia of Cyana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

Cardboard House Engineers [HOBO]

Same gold fee for trading back.

/signed

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

I guess I like to think of it as a restocking fee. Go to various retailers with a return and you will get 100% of what you paid for the item back, but.... BUT.... you have to pay a fee for them to restock the item in the store. There isn't any reason you should NEED to change from gold to silver. The items available are easily seen, so make use of them as you need. If you made a mistake, it should cost you (a VERY SMALL amount). My opinion, you don't have to agree with it, but you won't change it.

Frozy

Frozy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed View Post
I guess I like to think of it as a restocking fee. Go to various retailers with a return and you will get 100% of what you paid for the item back, but.... BUT.... you have to pay a fee for them to restock the item in the store. There isn't any reason you should NEED to change from gold to silver. The items available are easily seen, so make use of them as you need. If you made a mistake, it should cost you (a VERY SMALL amount). My opinion, you don't have to agree with it, but you won't change it.
First of all, this game doesn't have these factors in it, does it? we're talking about virtual space here, not real space...
And the NPC is a collector, not a trader, he doesn't have supply and demand to consider.

And there's already a fee for converting Zcoins, why make it bigger? why is it not enough? how does it help the game?

Xsiriss

Xsiriss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

It's barely justifiable in real life,let alone a tiny aspect of a game. Most of the z-rewards (pvp armour and equip packs aside) suck anyway, there's not going to be much traffic there...

Lord Dagon

Lord Dagon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2009

Inside the Oblivion Gate

The Imperial Guards of Istan[TIGE]

E/Me

eh /agree with converting back.
i dont even do z-challedges(so i dont have zcoins) but if i ever do it would be nice to get back what i earned

MasterSasori

MasterSasori

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

[Thay]

R/Mo

/signed because zaishen ppl need money too