Ok so i thought ur not suppose to grind?

DouglasJKB

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

E/Me

So i've finally decided to create my character in nightfall and i get the Primary Quest "Honorable General" i need to either be Level 12 or First Spear Rank, now I'm Level 10 and did all the quests i have searched the entire map that im allowed to venture i cannot access the city of the first city (explorable area west of Jokanur Diggins) just the ground area before it which is swarming with level 15s, i cannot go to black tides or Beknur Harbor. i am sooo confused from what i understand you never need to grind in guild wars as long as you do most of the quests at least that's how it was in the first 2 games, do i really need to grind to level 12, or do some quests open at level 10 maybe i have searched all the towns but haven't ran the maps again at level 10 just between 8 and 10, thanks alot

-Outrageously Confused

Ariena Najea

Ariena Najea

Silence and Motion

Join Date: Jul 2006

Buffalo NY

New Horizon [NH]

Don't worry, you are not the only one discouraged over this part of the storyline, and there aren't any more such cases that I can think of.

It's easiest to just run around killing stuff under Hunts/Bounties to get the requisite rank. It will likely take longer to reach Level 12 without any more quests to do.

DouglasJKB

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

E/Me

bounties? where can i do these "bounties"

Ariena Najea

Ariena Najea

Silence and Motion

Join Date: Jul 2006

Buffalo NY

New Horizon [NH]

Bounties = Hunts that you get from Sunspear Scouts and other Resurrection Shrine NPCs later in the game.

Divine Ashes

Divine Ashes

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chicago

LFG

R/

Yeah, it's fairly easy if you find a suitable place to farm out some sunspear points. Just go into an explorable area and make sure you visit every resurrection shrine you see to get the bounties. These bounties will give you points for every insect you kill, for example. Note that some of the earlier areas like the plains of jarin might not give you bounties, depending on how far you have progressed, so it is easiest and most efficient to farm out some of the later areas (such as outside jokanur diggings).

DouglasJKB

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

E/Me

ok so i just go talk to the sunspear people just loafing around the shrines? i was wondering y they just stand there looool

Lord Dagon

Lord Dagon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2009

Inside the Oblivion Gate

The Imperial Guards of Istan[TIGE]

E/Me

yep from doing NF(which i avoid as much as possible ;p) i found it was easier to just lightly grind for a sunspear rank then it is to get to lvl 12.(you might even grind accidentally to lvl 12 first xD).

hope it helps

kedde

kedde

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Kaons Banned Fecal Super Team [Ban]

Mo/A

If you never took any of the bounties it probably explains why you aren't the required sunspear rank yet.

Archress Shayleigh

Archress Shayleigh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2009

Guild Hall

R/

Take a team full of henchies to First City. Get the title... way easier. And just a future tip: there IS another situation like this around the area of Sunspear Sanctuary that only NF chars have to do... get to R7 or something. And for that quest look up Insect Farming in GWWiki... I can't remember the outpost and explorable area names, so I can't help you with those. But the farm is called Insect Farming.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Its not really grind to get the levels needed for that quest just a minor inconvenience that takes a few hours play.

I found some of the factions quests more boring wandering around kaining center on high value but boring as hell quests

Real Grind with a capital G comes later and is completely up to the player whether that take part in the Grind wars or not.

Not Listing it Here

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2010

Don't forget to upgrade your heroes weapons and equipment. Good heroes (skills, runes for armor maybe, etc) make a world of difference in ease of play and lowering frustration level. Agree that the shrines are the best way to raise your sunspear rank early on.

On a side note, if you do every quest on the starting island, you will be level 20 when you finish. Some quests require you to listen to people talk for a while before you see a green exclamation appear. I did my dervish in what I call 'slow mode' meaning I just took shrine bonus' and explored all the map edges and did every quest (which I compared to wiki). With no hurry to get to the Consulate Docks mission to get off the island. The XP from the last quest put me at level 20.

Just have fun and don't be in a hurry.

Ralisti

Ralisti

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2010

CST

W/

even better, just get to lvl 10 and go to EoTN. The primary quests up there give you 1000's of xp at a time, you get lvl 20 heros, gwen, mox, ogden, etc

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

If you grab bounties as you do quests, this isn't a grind at all; you hit the required sunspear rank more or less when you're supposed to. Unfortunately, if you don't know about the bounties, you're liable to get screwed like the OP.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

It's all relative. Yes, u have to grind a little so that u can progress, but the amount of grind required is exponentially less than the lvl grind in other games; therefore in comparison to other games, it can be considered not grinding. Make sense?

obsidian ectoplasm

obsidian ectoplasm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

Just a tip, use scrolls and it will be a lot faster to lvl up

T-Strudel

T-Strudel

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2010

Gate of the Nightfallen Lands

Above Pop Secret [PoPS]

E/A

What I always did was just kill everything standing on the plains of jarin until you don't get options to take the bounties anymore, this also gives you plenty of sunspear points and xp to meet the req to progress forward.

There is another place you will have to grind sunspear points, for the quest And a Hero Shall Lead Them, you will end up needing 2500 for the sunspear general rank.

Also, don't forget to pick up your attributes quests in sunspear great hall.