what's up with these people ?

Lusciious

Lusciious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2009

I'm from Singapore but i live in Shanghai ATM

Order of [Thay]

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Look . I was buying monstrous fangs / claws for 150g each . and apparently i had 2 people pm me in less than an hour asking me if its 150 or 1.5k and i said 150 and they called me a noob, scammer and ignored me ? wtf ? -.-

bsoltan

bsoltan

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2005

UK

[SoF]

The issue is that Monstrous Fangs are worth 1k at the trader and Monstrous Claws are worth 1.3k (at time of posting).

So players can make more money selling them to the Rare Material Trader than they can selling to you for 150gold as they will get 750g per Fang and 1k per Claw.

They think you're scamming by trying to get people to sell you an item for a fraction of it's value when in reality it would be worth a lot more and nearer the 1.5k they were mentioning.

If you're aware of these prices and are still asking to buy cheap materials is fine but if anyone checks the trader they probably won't sell to you and you'll get grief from players like that.

If they had any sense they would have told you the above information, just in case you didn't know.

Ariena Najea

Ariena Najea

Silence and Motion

Join Date: Jul 2006

Buffalo NY

New Horizon [NH]

As bsoltan said.

Otherwise, for the less-commonly used materials like these, you are best off just paying the outlandish trader prices than wasting time trying to buy them from players.

Xsiriss

Xsiriss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

Nothing's 'up' with them. Check the rare mat trader prices before buying rare mats,it's that simple, so stop whining.

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Trader prices determine player prices. Player prices are always between trader sell and buy prices.

Example:
Item A can be bought from the trader for 1k.
Item A can be sold to the trader for 800g.
Logically, it follows that player prices are between 800g and 1k, hovering around 900g.

Because:
If sellers want to sell for more than 1k, buyers would just buy from trader.
If buyers want to buy for less than 800g, sellers would just sell to trader.

Conclusion:
Always check the trader's buy and sell prices to determine player price.

Lusciious

Lusciious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2009

I'm from Singapore but i live in Shanghai ATM

Order of [Thay]

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yes i knew they cost that much . i was trying to save some money >.> well .. thanks for the explaination .

ac1inferno

ac1inferno

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Boston

We D Shot Your Stances [GODS]

A/W

So if you knew the price and still advertised to buy it that low, isn't that scamming? Since you're taking advantage of people who don't know they can get more from it from the rare material trader.

Its like buying black dyes from new players in Pre-Searing Ascalon for much less than what the Dye Trader would pay for it because they don't know. I can say I'm trying to save money, but thats still scamming.

Angela Sitsonit

Angela Sitsonit

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

the Netherlands

[AARP]

W/

It is getting harder to make money in this game due to nerfs and whatever but you hit an all time low with this one ! Trying to save some money ! LMAO !

Were you tired of buying Kournan coins for 150gp/each ? Or Trade contracts for 200gp/each ?

And ppl called you a noob you say ? they ignored you ? and even had the nerve to call you a scammer ? Sheesh bad bad ppl !

But serious that all is nothing compaired to some of the other choice words that came to my mind when i read your first post and it got even worse when i read the second.

karlik

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2009

Trying to save money my a**. Trying to make money by scamming people!

Gotta go with Angela - if I put what I think of you in writing I'd get banned.

highway

highway

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ac1inferno View Post
So if you knew the price and still advertised to buy it that low, isn't that scamming? Since you're taking advantage of people who don't know they can get more from it from the rare material trader.

Its like buying black dyes from new players in Pre-Searing Ascalon for much less than what the Dye Trader would pay for it because they don't know. I can say I'm trying to save money, but thats still scamming.
I agree 100%
A rose by any other name......

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

I try to save money by advertising to buy ectos at 1k. I swear I'm not scamming!

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lusciious View Post
yes i knew they cost that much . i was trying to save some money >.> well .. thanks for the explaination .
Save money, by ripping off someone who doesn't know they can get a better deal from the bloody npc. That's scamming mate.

Reborn007

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

Nottingham, UK

Halo Combat Evolved [SS]

W/

WTF! is wrong with you people?? He aint scamming, he has offered to buy at a certain price and pay that price, now if he were advertising, say to buy at 500g and then payed only 400g per item then thats scamming. It is totally upto the person selling to make sure that they want to sell at that price or sell at the trader. Its like ecto's you cant get them until you wither do certain places far into the the game, if you dont know by the time you are that far into the game, how much they are worth then the mind boggles. Scamming!! IS when you are blatantly tricking/duping a person, NOT when you are clearly stating what you are doing/paying/buying.
I've sold items/materials, that are far below what the traders are paying, just simply to help out other players. It is not always the case in game to make money but to enjoy the playing experience and make the game also enjoyable to play for others.

Mordiego

Mordiego

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2007

Pozna??, UTC+1

We Are From Poland [Pol]

N/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lusciious View Post
... i had 2 people pm me in less than an hour asking me if its 150 or 1.5k and i said 150 and they called me a noob, scammer and ignored me ...
Coz it is a scam if U try to abuse ppl lack of knowledge these mats are ten times more expensive at mats tarder.

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

It's not a scam by definition, it is however something that will piss off people who know what it's worth because they know you are abusing those who do not.

Scam? No.
Unethical? Possibly.
Pathetic? Yeah, a bit.

Lusciious

Lusciious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2009

I'm from Singapore but i live in Shanghai ATM

Order of [Thay]

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When you buy things cheaper than the normal price, you're gaining . Everyone does it all the time . I can buy a q9 vs for 50e instead of 55e . i'm saving 35k . now am i taking advantage of that ? o.o you'd do the same if you were me . sheesh >.> look . it's up to them if they want to sell it to me for 150 . never heard of doing a good deed ?

forget it . mods close thread please .

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

It's technically not a scam.

However, if you're trying to save some money, listing a "WTB" at a tenth of what they're normally worth isn't the way to do it.

Earth

Earth

Always Outnumbered

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lusciious View Post
mods close thread please .
Ok .