Guild Wars - Amazing music; badly used

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Just a very random thought here.


But Guild Wars has absolutely amazing music once you take the time to listen to the soundtracks.

The problem I have with it? They're so badly used in game.
I can't really touch exactly what makes it so badly used, but the music just doesn't feel as emotional, or noticeable for the most part during the gameplay.
What's more of a shame is some of Guild Wars' most amazing songs are not on the official soundtracks, but I hear apparently an extra CD named "Additional music"?
Tis' really is a shame. I think I recall some of these amazing tracks used in cutscenes, but not for long enough to enjoy the songs.

Where the hell was "The Undercity" used ingame!? Either I didn't recall it, or it might have been a mistake on anet's part. This song is so awesome and fitting for a place like it!!
I'm really curious why it wasn't used if it was created for factions.

I really hope GW2 is an improvement and puts the music to good use. Jeremy Soule really outdid himself!

Ariena Najea

Ariena Najea

Silence and Motion

Join Date: Jul 2006

Buffalo NY

New Horizon [NH]

Reasons why the music "doesn't feel as emotional, or noticeable for the most part"
  • The default balance of music to sound effects makes it near impossible to hear any music during battle or when a skill is being activated
  • Most of the tracks are heard for hours on end on loop, and get repetitive (think Kaineng city)
  • Battle music was added to the game, making the awesome music go in and out
  • Most people skip the cutscenes nowadays since they have seem them too many times
  • As you mention, not all of the music appears in game. A lot of the cooler music doesn't make an appearance.

I don't recall "The Undercity" anywhere either =(

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

A lot of environmental areas in Vabbi actually had really catchy music for the explorables that made me want to explore and hunt. But yeah, like you said, battle music was added

Chicken of the Seas

Chicken of the Seas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

California, USA

Vulpes Velox [Fox]

Me/

Normally I listen to my own music while playing GW, and after a few months of doing just that I turn the GW music on again. Then it sounds amazing and new like it used to. =P

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Honestly, after 4 years, you can get bored with the soundtrack. I mean, I love Diablo 2's music, but God knows I won't listen it with the same passion as I did 10 years ago.

Also, I liked only the Factions music. And only because I'm a sucker for the Asian themes.

The Josip

The Josip

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2009

Me/

Good music was completely ruined by generic battle music crap.

4thVariety

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

European Union

ADL

E/

GW's music is just there in the background. There aren't any "Darth Vader on the Super-Stardestroyer" moments really. Even if music is played in cutscenes, it does not really fit them or has already been played to death before.

The biggest musical moment of the game was the theme playing when Prophecies started and you saw the campfire. That was something you remembered. Other than that, there aren't really any mental images that stuck.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

You can't have the fish and the bear paw (I think its you can't have the cake and eat it too, something)

if you have the good music in the background, you'll never hear it in its entirety because there are so many other sound going about at the same time.

I think the game uses the music very well, in fact every time i hear the traveling music, or the fight music, it makes me wants to kill monsters even more !

Benderama

Benderama

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2008

UK

[Rage]

Rt/

I love the GW soundtracks, all the games have wonderful music. the trouble is you need to have your speakers turned up to a high vlume just to hear it,
i know that you wouldn't have classical music playing loud but turning it up to the highest (in game) is still pretty quiet. only if you stop, mute all sounds except music and turn it up in deldrimor war camp, do you realise what a beautiful scene it is.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Jeremy Soule- so generic you'll think you're listening to morrowind's soundtrack while playing GW.

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir View Post
Jeremy Soule- so generic you'll think you're listening to morrowind's soundtrack while playing GW.
I lol'ed...

Seriously though I started playing with the music turned completely off sometime during NF. There are some nice tracks but by and large GW music is sort of flat in my opinion. A good comparison would be the Veldt music from FF3(FF6), if you have played it you know what I am talking about ZzzzZZzzz. It was really the scenery and not the music that always kept me stimulated while playing GW anyways.

Pursh

Pursh

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

Moscow, Russia

[lion] IGN: Monk Elvara

Mo/

The crystal desert song (Crystal Oasis) I think is perfectly used in the game during the crystal desert part of the game. Listening to this game's music in general reminds me of playing Oblivion/Morrowind, As the same composer made the soundtrack for all these games, its no surprise :P

tealspikes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2009

Most Prophecies music sounds like bland typical mmo ambience music. I did enjoy presearing music though. Factions and Nightfall music seems to have more character because its oriental/exotic. Particularly the kurzick, luxon, istani, and vabbian themes stand out for me. So where is the best music? Hidden away in the Guild Wars Battle Pack One ($5 at DirectSong). It plays during the prophecies campaign and sounds more like a movie soundtrack than anything else, but doesn't feel as 'orchestral' as the stuff you hear in EotN. This is what Prophecies music should have been from the beginning.

headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

I really hate that you have to buy music just to make the game feel better for playing. Talk about failsauce.

Anyway, most of the music in this game is quite passive and I would rather hear a radio station or something else. The only times it ever picks up is in the middle of battle during nightfall or eotn, which makes me wish the dev team would look back on the first two campaigns and somehow re-write just a bit of coding to support this style of playback.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

meh, purely opinion based

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Mr. Soule should try a bit more of different genres. More variation.
Currently there is only ONE song that has quite more beat.
It's one song that I've never heard in-game, part of the Nightfall pack...
Let's see...
Heeere it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu1eG2BzsMQ
Totally different to the rest.
I wish there was more battle music like this.

Anyone knows Granado Espada (Sword of the New World)?
You get many different styles there... well...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...c_music_genres
This many, XDDD.
One of my favourites is this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtNUOp3bldI
I edited once the GuildWars.ds to have some Granado Espada music. The Shiro battle changes a lot with some more beat.

But not only electronic music. Also rock, heavy and even arias. The game gets boring after a while and it's a grindfest, but some people stay only for the music and the boobs of the female models (you can hire many NPCs as playable characters), there was even a bug that made female models appear nude once, XDD.


For GW, the music is a little stagnant if you don't have the music packs.
Especially the battle pack. It adds a little of action to music.

Most of my favourite music plays at the crystal desert, pre-searing and shiverpeaks, so when I'm not around there, I usually have a music player or some video playing in the other screen.

Today it was Caprica and Smallville. I don't remember what I was doing in the game, something about the redux... oh, yeah, the EotN quests, XD.
When you play as an experimentalist, it gets so easy that you can burn stuff without watching, XD.

Pirates Arrrg Matey

Pirates Arrrg Matey

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

N/Mo

Prophecies has the best music in all of the games imo. It had no battle music either that I recall. I guess its your opinion though, to each his/her own.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lishy View Post
But Guild Wars has absolutely amazing music
Not really. There are a few beautiful songs in it, mostly Factions and a few Prophecies tracks, but that's about it.

Copenhagen Master

Copenhagen Master

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

El Centro CA

Lazy Imperius Legionis (LaZy)

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pursh View Post
The crystal desert song (Crystal Oasis) I think is perfectly used in the game during the crystal desert part of the game. Listening to this game's music in general reminds me of playing Oblivion/Morrowind, As the same composer made the soundtrack for all these games, its no surprise :P
I must agree the desert music is perfectly placed IMO. As for the rest Vabbi area is good too. Rest of areas NAAAAA. I mean redo some areas. For example EOTN, try using Devona fight song when engaging the Charr make the music more epic when fighting certain monsters that at least played a big role in the game and story lines.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

W/

I've used the GW soundtract multiple times for student projects as background music. The music is really wonderful, but yes it really is poorly used in GW.

Had headphone/speaker troubles for years, when playing guild wars I could tell if my sound was working from waterfall and fire sounds far more often than I could for the music.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post
Not really. There are a few beautiful songs in it, mostly Factions and a few Prophecies tracks, but that's about it.
I really enjoyed "The Elementalist" and "Autumn in Ascalon".

Oh, this song, as mentioned above, completely me caught me by surprise. I can't believe I never heard this song before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu1eG2BzsMQ

` Marshmallow

` Marshmallow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2009

Canadaa!

Last Friday Night [TGIF]

E/

I'd so play the log-in theme for factions on repeat everytiem I played gw -____-"

Buuuutttt I listen to my music : P I've had the music off for 2 years now xD

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

Ugh, now I want to play Oblivion again....

The crystal oasis is my favorite music in the game. I used to go there and just vanquish areas back before hardmode and titles, just so I could listen to the music.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget View Post
Oh, this song, as mentioned above, completely me caught me by surprise. I can't believe I never heard this song before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu1eG2BzsMQ
It's from the Korean version of Guild Wars website, used in a trailer. Never appears in game, which is a pity - though it sounds a bit different from much of Nightfall's music, it's also better, and does feel fitting for GW: Nightfall. Could have vastly improved the feel of the campaign if they'd used more stuff like that for combat music.

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

I love all his music. Oblivion/Morrowind/Guild Wars, it's all good music. But I do agree, it is used not to the best ability in Guild Wars, not like Morrowind (I love Morrowind's soundtrack, so many memories).

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by own age myname View Post
I love all his music. Oblivion/Morrowind/Guild Wars
But do you love...
[coolface.jpg]
...SupCom's soundtrack?

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Like anything, as time goes on the quality of work dwindles. Perfect example would be looking at all 4 GW releases over the years, same goes for the music. Prophecies had the best tracks, Factions was very good as well, then nightfall started slacking off and EoTN is just meh with all that stupid Battle music.

Tullzinski

Tullzinski

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Trying to stay out of Ryuk's Death Note

N/R

Guild Wars still has music? That stuff has been turned off since beta...Maybe some nice Tool or Jethro inserted in game I would turn it back on.

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post
But do you love...
[coolface.jpg]
...SupCom's soundtrack?
I meant all the music I listened to from him is good ^^

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Slydell View Post
Like anything, as time goes on the quality of work dwindles. Perfect example would be looking at all 4 GW releases over the years, same goes for the music. Prophecies had the best tracks, Factions was very good as well, then nightfall started slacking off and EoTN is just meh with all that stupid Battle music.
The graphics, visual effects, quality of quests, and variety of enemies beg to differ.

Test Me

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2008

E/

Agreed OP. It's being terribly used. The only way to listen to some of my favorite tracks was to go in the ingame shop and select a campaign. Way to go!

Music is awesome but all you hear is the same track, the so called "battle music". And the outposts never had a music signature for me, do they actually play different tracks in each outpost? Never noticed anything like that.

athariel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2009

E/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Slydell View Post
Like anything, as time goes on the quality of work dwindles. Perfect example would be looking at all 4 GW releases over the years, same goes for the music. Prophecies had the best tracks, Factions was very good as well, then nightfall started slacking off and EoTN is just meh with all that stupid Battle music.
Hmm.. I disagree. I think it's your nostalgia feeling kicking in, probably you started playing GW with prophecies, that's why you like it most. I started with Nightfall, then EotN,Factions and Prophecies last, and I find nightfall the best and prophecies worst

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

Dont think Ive ever played the music apart from when doing a reinstall before shutting it off as soon as loading up.

SeraCombi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Hiding in a cave in old Ascalon

Quote:
Originally Posted by athariel View Post
Hmm.. I disagree. I think it's your nostalgia feeling kicking in, probably you started playing GW with prophecies, that's why you like it most. I started with Nightfall, then EotN,Factions and Prophecies last, and I find nightfall the best and prophecies worst
Soule really hit an apex with Nightfall. It's one of the broadest, most inventive, and best orchestrated soundtracks of his entire career.

As far as his GW stuff, my personal preference is for the Factions soundtrack. I don't like EotN soundtrack. It's my least favorite of the four.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post
It's from the Korean version of Guild Wars website, used in a trailer. Never appears in game, which is a pity - though it sounds a bit different from much of Nightfall's music, it's also better, and does feel fitting for GW: Nightfall. Could have vastly improved the feel of the campaign if they'd used more stuff like that for combat music.
It strikes me as something that would be used in the Realm of Torment. Maybe someday, right?

Seef II

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

I like a few songs from every campaign. Bought all the DirectSong stuff, too. I have to say, though, that the only pack I regret buying (for more than one reason) was the GW:EN one. There's only that one good piece that plays in Asura lands that I like; the rest don't hold a candle to Factions and NF.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Test Me View Post
Music is awesome but all you hear is the same track, the so called "battle music". And the outposts never had a music signature for me, do they actually play different tracks in each outpost? Never noticed anything like that.
There are distinct tracks for each region: Ascalon, Shiverpeaks, Kryta and so on. But all outposts in a region do feature the same music. Over and over again

Stop The Storm

Stop The Storm

Keeping DoA Alive

Join Date: Jan 2007

England

Were In [DoA]

A/N

my guildwars has been muted for the past 4+ years

thats how annoying the sounds/music are

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

N/

Mine has been turned right down too i usually listen to music of teamspeak/ventrilo but just for a change i am turning it on today until i am sick of hearing the same old tune again.

I actually don't mind guild wars music, most of it is pretty nice but when you have hear anything a few times it gets annoying...

shadowhand

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

When I'm in the mood for listening to the in-game music I put the music slider at max and turn everything else down to about 1/3 of the bar, then crank up the volume button on my speakers so the game sounds are at "normal level."

I like to leave the game idling in Granite Citadel like that.

Mostly I have the game music turned off though so I can listen to webradio or my own music when I play.

(no, the webradio doesn't slow down my connection in any measurable way. Got a 28 megabit line so a 64k or 128k stream is barely noticable...)