Share your knowledge on physical-teams

Dantallion

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2009

Holland

D/

A while ago, I got a bit bored of the usual triple necro set-ups. Especially since I run a primary derv, I was thinking of going for a physical setup.
Now, I run a VoStrength Derv. (OgGjkyrM7QfbMXNXygvlAAAAxgA) (I usually fill the 2 optional's with Distracting blow, and Conviction)

My current Hero's are:
-ER Protter (OgNDwcrPS1C0C1DzE3EeENggRA)

-WE Scythe (OQoiExp8YX4rClmLzF6GUEAA)

-SS smite support (OANDY4xuS5BWCICVVJguEzDLEA)

please comment on this setup and all idea's and suggestions are welcome!

/I have to add, before this is becoming a *VoStrength Must Die* threat, I really like the skill and IMHO it is really under-rated.

IronSheik

IronSheik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Wolfenstein: Goldrush

Zombies Go Nom Nom [Nom]

N/

Lol vos, hope you don't bring any useful henchmen with conditions.

[VoW;OgGjwaps6ShbMXNXGFDYvlxgyg]

[SoS Support;OAOjQiisjOXzyJzEj5NXIzjLG]

[General curser/MoP here]

[Your favorite crapper hero here]

Yuna Matsumarui

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2009

Me/

conditions such as Weakness own pve (HM), so it's not recommended to not bring them..
MM's with Death nova also own pve, but that spreads poison.

I like you idea of pewpew'ing shit but even with Discordway (which is pretty fast to kill individuals) it's useful to bring weakness for damage reduction on the enemies you aren't killing.

VoS is really underrated, but that's mostly because people don't play derv and if they do they play wounding strike or Reaper's Sweep. zVow for heroes..

therefore, I must admit that no conditions in HM sucks, and because you're basically forced to bring them for a quick win. if you bring conditions you're spoiling your elite skill.

also, you're running 12 (+?+?) Earth prayers, while not bringing conditions because you want to fuel VoS, while Earth Prayers is all about conditions.
(Veil of Thorns + Armor of Sanctity = derv tank?)

Sethellington

Sethellington

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

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N/

As the others have been saying, you really can't afford to use VOS in PvE because it eliminates the chance to use conditions, which are vital in success! You're probably making the best use of your 3 pve only skill slots, but high energy attack chains are best and therefore zvow is probably your best best for an elite, unless you're really in need of a DW source...

Dantallion

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2009

Holland

D/

You guys are right, I really notice the lack of conditions in HM. Though I like the idea of zvow with high energy attack skills, should give sufficient damage output.

[Update] So I changed it to this (OgGjkyqLrRhbMXNXDYygvlBFxgA) kinda like the build IronSheik posted, 14SM, 12WP 7Myst

sonofthort

sonofthort

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Legends Of Melee [SSBM]

Mo/

For my sin I use a similar setup:

Me: attack spammer with "Save Yourselves!"

Necro: Curses spammer with splinter weapon (barbs, mark of pain, weaken armor, enfeeble blood, insert random elite)

Ele: ER prot

Monk: RoJ strength of honor

I usually bring an extra melee henchment to share in strength of honor's bounty, blood necro, healer, and one optional

khaderach19

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

Our Fun is you Dieing [fool]

If im helping out friends that need physicals i like to play with my ranger plus the three other ranger heroes. Either as thumpers or scythes with pets (all hearty polar bears). As the other guy to bring greater conflag. and we get 8 beefy tanks up front. Other guy will usually run discord with a N/P for anthem of weariness/envy/disruption/fallback. widespread weakness, interupts, disruption on 8 physical allies = leetsauce.

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

Start making spirit's strength ritualist/dervishes. High damage and an ias if you use weapon of aggression. Never really tried it to see if they run it intelligently at all. But it'd rival the damage of vow of strength.

Nechrond

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2009

Netherlands

Utrecht Usurpators

D/

Go for the Eyes!
It's sick with a scythe. When hitting multiple targets, it takes only 2 hits to charge it up, so you've got a nearly guaranteed crit every other strike(EDIT: and we all know crits are even better on scythes than on other weapons), plus it also helps the rest of your team.