Dervish in name only

How is he raging in any way? He's merely stating the truth. While you may have fun playing with what you have, people have to put up with a less effective player on their team, which ends up hampering their own playing experience.

The reason peopel rage at you is because you'll just draw back the team. We have fun through playing well and winning,like most gamers. You want to use traps? Make a ranger and stop trying to bash us when you're the one ruining it for us.

If you understood game mechanics properly you'd probably see why (expertise cutting energy cost,gaining higher WS attribute for more damage etc....).

Really, don't do this in RA. It's fine (well, still bad, but more acceptable) in AB, FA or JQ, but doing it in RA, where there's only 3 guys to compensate for you, is really lame.
Besides, if you really play for fun only, you should stay out of RA anyway. It's a simple arena, the only fun to be had there is winning.

If you have fun, why do you care what people think of your build?

But surely since you've posted here about this whole situation, you don't care what people think...

Right?

wrong kattar

he doesn't care what people think, but only what YOU think...

...like me! i mean the only reason i post anything on GURU is because i want to know what YOU think, not so much to just get my thoughts out in the open....to express me-shelf, to vent...... nah, none of that jive. all i want to know is what a particular person may think about what i have on my mind.

o.o

and he IS having fun with that build... there is no "ifs" about it.

[...clears throat...]

-.-

Honestly, I would say play what you have fun with and forget about other people.
You like the way the Derv toon looks, but really likes bows...go to it.

People can bitch if they want, oh no you hurt 'the team'. But nothing in this game aside from perhaps HA is a team game. If people were so worried about 'the team', then monks would only take healing or prot skills into FA. Team has 8 players, 4 are monks and none has anything other than the Jesus Beam going on. As I only play FA, 90% of the time you wait 10 minutes to get in and once you do you have 1 leecher, 2 leavers and 2 bitchers. The other 3 are trying to win. I would rather have you playing what you like than the first 5 on that list.

Good luck out there.

my sarcasm detector has to work REALLY hard here some days :P today it assploded :P oops my bad :P

If you're playing dervish you might as well try to work -with- the profession rather then slapping a ranger bar on it.. like..

Throw Avatar of Lyssa on with Attacker's Insight and Eternal Aura along with some fast activating bow attacks and go crazy..

Or slap Zealous Vow, comfort animal, a few pet attacks, scythe (or bow if you insist on using one).

Kind of along the same lines is why would -love- to roll a ranger, but they suck in PvE, so instead I hop on my Assassin and abuse Disrupting Accuracy

Wow... this thread is kind of rediculous...

Honestly OP, if you are having fun, then keep at it. Do what is fun for you. Who the hell cares if you are slightly less effective than a primary Ranger? its not like FA, JQ, RA, and AB are serious business anyway? In fact... Guilds wars is... Just a game! thats right, it was actually created to have fun in! I know this may be a novel concept to many people out there but it is no big deal whether or not you win any given RA match. Your first born isnt going to die if you lose.

So go have some fun. This is only a game after all.

I love the it's just a game mentality, but you are using it the wrong way. Look up the definition of a game, and you will see that it is about completing a goal, hence, if all you want to do is have fun, there are plenty of ways to have fun. If you want to have fun through a game, you should focus on actually being good at the game since that's the point (along with having fun). Imo "it's just a game" should be used when people are more concerned with titles and all that fancy stuff instead of just having a good time playing.

RA: you can pull this sh*t here, since matches are quick to restart when your team loses. If your team manages to garner a win despite of you, the smart ones will leave anyway.

FA/JQ: lasts for a considerably longer time and has more players, most of 'em wanting to win. They are rightfully going to consider you a handicap and you deserve every flame you get from them. Accept it; it comes with the territory of your fun.

AB: a rare situation in which you yourself are not the only one to blame. People should ask for builds when team building, so all 4 of your team are at fault. The 8 other people are rightfully going to consider you a handicap and you deserve every flame you get from them. Accept it; it comes with the territory of your fun.

Conclusion: you like it when people get mad at you. You are a griefer. Griefers are kinda sad.

To clarify something:

There's nothing wrong, per se, with the attitude "I just wanna have fun and I find <insert crap build> really, really fun."

However:
1. My conception of fun doesn't involve sucking at GW. So, I don't want you in my team. As long as you stay out of RA/AB/FA/JQ where I can't boot you when I realize what a tard you are, what you do outside of my party (and without effect on the game economy) is no concern of mine. You'll find a lot of people, especially on these forums, share my view.
2. Builds like this have no place on the forums. Anyone can make a crappy-but-"fun" build all by themselves, without any help from you. It's making good builds that's a challenge. The dialogue here is about "here, I think this is a good build," "yes, that is a good build; but wouldn't this be better?," "no, I don't think that's a good build; here's why," "I know this isn't a good build; please help," and "you're right; that's not a good build; here's help."

short and sweet
If you want to play a ranger build, play a ranger.

If you want to go bow on a dervish here is a list of suggestions
-Drop the traps theyre useless and a waste of energy in PvP
-Drop your bow attacks to only 2, POSSIBLY 3 (at the max)
-Replace apply poison for poison tip signet and use Barrage+your zealous bow
-Bow skills with zealous bow should include |Barrage|Volley|MAYBE dual shot

-Use a zealous bow if you dont use Zealous vow or whatever its called
-Maintain your energy with DERVISH enchantments and replace troll unguent with Mystic regeneration or faithfull/watchfull intervention.

(thats about all i can say)
Skill combos
(No zealous bow)
Poison tip signet|Zealous vow|Volley|Dual shot|Needling shot|
(Zealous bow)
Poison Tip signet|Barrage|Volley|Needling shot|

(heals can be used in combo with Faithful intervention, a perma enchant and a nice heal when it procts, and Mystic regen +3-4 health regen PER ENCHANT)

Descriptives
Lyssa or grenth are nice in place of zealous vow, but not for PvP.

If you MUST run a dervish ranger go volley/dual shot with zealous vow to back you up as you will gain energy for each hit you make

IF NOT then maybe use
|Poison tip signet|Barrage|Volley|Dual shot + a zealous bow...

though i will say you're running up a tree i tried to climb for a while now. I had something with Ebon dust aura, but that doesnt work anymore because its strictly Melee


Useing a Zealous Bow and your dervish skills to up your attack speed and energy gain would be about all that you could do, try and work WITH the class, you're gunna want mainly dervish skills with a slot open for Poison tip signet, and two bow attacks.


Honestly though, You may have fun but you are hurting the team horribly and also increacing the negative outlook for dervish players.

Dervish ranger Bow sucks because the dervish doesnt have any form of energy management with bow skills. Ranger skills work because rangers have expertise

Necros have buit in energy management and eles have a mass of energy

Necros have a few skills that cause damage when the opponent takes physical damage, and the bow would help keep the range, and possibly pin down to keep them from getting close

Eles with mark of rodgort|Poison tip sig|Barrage| and a firey bow can effectively burn/poison spam masses of enemies to death

A dervish doesnt have much that will help you, youre left with raw bow dmg, and a few attack speed increaces+ an energy devouring build.

If you HAVE TO play a ranger on a dervish be smart about it. Dervish bow is gone because EDA is gone...and rangers could use EDA anyways, and since they have expertise theyre better at it.