I hate people now.

Some 55 Monk joins this guy's UW group that I was in.
We figure to get more monks since we are suspicious of korean names. We end up with 2 more.

Anyway, we kill the first part (labyrinth or what not) and just go exploring (like normal, non farming people). She (girl character, but prolly a guy IRL) decides to go to smite crawler and farm.

All the while we are killing obsidian behemoths, grasping darkness, mind blade sceptres, and the stuff that people DO NOT FARM, because we are cool like that. After all, the PvE is for fun, not for grinding.

So, for some reason I forget why, I think we got the unluckier of patrols/spawns and we get mobbed by like 15-20 mesmer types (mindblade sceptres, banished dream rides, wailing lords). So our monks can't heal that well because of all the mesmer stuff (migraine and ignorance) ...and we die. A W/Mo is left and we hope that we can get ressed against the odds. But the spawn remains WAYYY too large.

Anyway, he/she ends up dying also, and we end up going, "screw it" because the 55 monk is still alive happily farming Smite crawlers.

Also, when grouping all people care about is ecto/shards. What ever happened to playing for FUN?

Case in point, people are greedy and only play PvE fror gold. Even in this forum, someone posted "who is the richest person in GW", when it is not what really counts. Experience in terms of the PLAYER's experience not character experience as well as maturity and morality to actually play fairly and discuss how to approach things WITH the rest of the group is what I value in a person that plays Guild Wars. Not how many things you can kill by using a Premade build build off mindlessly smacking keys in succession to get your oh so dear Fissure armor that has the same armor leel as the 15K or droknar's.

/end rant

Why do you think people feel inclined to screw others over so they don't have to go to the labyrinth part of UW? IS it a lack of knowledge of 55 build, or just plain stupidity/being an annoying person?

have the 55 monk call their health while you are standing next to them with their armor on, if they switch or take off any armor, there is a kick button if your leader....

...just dont get monk/warriors.

i have 900 hours and havent even finished the game but i still am having fun exploring.

collectors are my best friend and my most prized bow is a gold submax damage with 19% longer enchantment and a +5 energy wand for 3 carvings outside nolani (i do have the +12 drok artifact to go with it though)

it is fun for me

That's a good idea, I think that will help to tell who the invincimonks are most of the time.

The only time this wouldn't work is when the monk calls out their health by simply typing it instead of the ctrl+click method, and make it look like he/she did.

You hate people -now-?

I've hated them for a looooong time. :D

Invite me instead ^^ i'm a Mo/E with 522 health -_-'(never found better mods than hale and fortitude for my staff) I'm usualy a protection monk. i also got most mesmer skill unlocked if needed.

Juhanah Fensalir

I'm not online right now. But if you need a non farming monk for FoW feel free to send me a message someday. You can also be bossy as to what skill i should bring and when to use it as its better have good strategy than just spamming skill when they seem to be needed.

I think I explored all of FoW. MY goal is to finish all of UW before chapter 2. I feel like it just isn't happening. Everywhere where high level missions are, all people want to do is farm.

Take for example:
FoW- People want shards, Fiery Dragon Sword, Chaos Axe, etc.
UW- People want ecto, storm bows, eternal shields, etc.
Sorrow's Furnace- People want Greens
Grenth's Footprint- People want Greens (Boss farming)
Desert- People want Golds (Griffon farming)
Ember Light Camp- People want Golds (Hydra farming)
Mineral Springs- People want Icy Dragon Sword

Notice the pattern?

FoW, UW, SF or what ever is all fine with me I never really enjoyed farming. The only time i really farm is when i need the item to make new weapon from collectors and that doesnt happen often.

I never went to FoW before and i went to UW only once alone with my ranger last summer. I visited SF with Henchmen but only finished 1 of the quests.

I wouldn't join you to Mineral Spring though.. Unless you wanna kill some titan since i activated the quest but never did it yet. The people in that place only want to go capture Shield of Judgement.. and now farm dragon sword.

you cant always trust calling out health.. many 55 monks have spare armor to switch

My biggest reason for disliking the 55 build. Here is again definate proof that 55 repeatdly HURTS group gameplay.

most don't think enough to have the runes off before the join the group and you can watch them switch...unless all their armor looks the same...there relaly is no way to be sure.

That was like the time I went into UW and a pair of Korean monks let us die then cleared the whole place out. It was a good learning experience.

Uh, well, since youre a monk who throws enchantes, you may want to invest in a staff wrapping of enchanting and +5 en staff head.

plus how hard is it for them 55 monks to just Type My Health is 500 of 500 in team chat

Well... i would but i do not farm so i cannot affort a staff head of pure leetness for 50k or 5 ectoplasm. I got something like 30k over 4 characters. And i rarely find any item that isn't white. I find minor or major runes time to time but they all worth less than 100 gold to NPC.

One thing is sure is i have fun playing and thats the whole point of a game.

Nonsense. The "55" doesn't hurt gameplay, players do. Some players always will behave like assholes, regardless of what build they are playing.

The only thing that really proves is that it would be good to be able to take henchies into UW. In contrast to lots of humans, henchies won't let you down. At least not deliberately.

No, this build does not hurt group gameplay. The jerks behind some of the 55 monks do.
I play regularly with two friends, one fo them runs a 55 monk. The three of us clear lots of the UW and enjoy doing it together. We don't mascarade as something we're not. It's the players, not the build.

That may be, but it is impossible to tell the good from the bad. This is why we need an "in mission" kick button.

Will it be abused, yes, but no more that the current system abuses players.

Maybe some one needs to start a monk guild, like the runners guild.

Well, I disagree. If you say 55 monks don't hurt gameplay, then why is it so hard to get monks that know WTH they are doing.

Monks that aren't 55 builds:
-they are actually good, fun-loving players
-they think 55 build is to easy
-they think farming is boring*
-they like playing with people
-they are new and dunno WTH a 55 build is (unlikely, it is plastered all over the place)
-they can't afford to make 55 build (unlikely)
-they use other people's knowledge as leverage to get through missions (How often do you see Helaing Monk LFG?)

I spam Healing Monk lfg, but only when I'm too bored to make my own group. >.> It helps that I'm usually with someone else, so I can make them be leader.

What's sad is that I usually end up being the leader no matter what.