those of you HAers out there love to fight in HA no? are you tired of fighting the same old teams everyday because its a random thing? want a real challenge?
think back to old ascalon arena remember how it allowed only lvl 1 - lvl 10 to fight?
what if we had something like that in HA but with ranks
rank 0-4 seperated districts/servers only certain ranked players can fight against other 0-4 ranked players.
4-7 etc etc.
itll be more user friendly everyone can participate without problems finding a group.(before you say anything about running a monk because they are high demand...just hush...maybe we dont want to run one)noobs could fight noobs
pros can fight pros and it allows everyone to move up in rank and learn the basic strategies of HA and how to work as a team.
simply say you cant get in a group because your at 179 fame...and they want r3...your pretty much screwed...especially if you dont want to run gimmick builds.
down with rank descrimination. PVP is meant to be played regardless of rank!!!
/signed if you agree for this change(add a reason)
/unsigned if you dont want it to(with a damn good reason)
HA(Heroes Ascent)
Lithril Ashwalker
Anonymous IXl
I dont think it would catch on tbh... There just are not enough people playing the game to do something like that. Codex was a bust, never really caught on and A-net dosnt want to waste time on this game to much more when they are working on GW2. So sorry but /unsigned
Del
someone suggested this before, lurk more. also, bad idea, segmenting the playerbase even more would cause people to play even less.
To Chicken To Die
/unsigned.
You are either called noob cus you weren't good enough and got frustated and decided to make a topic.
Or you are to damn lazy to find some same ranked people or maybe some ranked people to do lots of HA get better and get ranked. Like join a guild. Get a glad rank and use that.
They whole idea would only fit for Ascalon arena and not for PvP
You are either called noob cus you weren't good enough and got frustated and decided to make a topic.
Or you are to damn lazy to find some same ranked people or maybe some ranked people to do lots of HA get better and get ranked. Like join a guild. Get a glad rank and use that.
They whole idea would only fit for Ascalon arena and not for PvP
Gift3d
there are nowhere near enough people playing HA right now for this type of thing to come close to working.
king swift
/notsigned
Bad idea. It is just not practical and would not really benefit anyone besides lvl 0 scrubs.
Bad idea. It is just not practical and would not really benefit anyone besides lvl 0 scrubs.
Elephantaliste
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simply say you cant get in a group because your at 179 fame...and they want r3...your pretty much screwed...especially if you dont want to run gimmick builds.
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i farm baddies
people couldnt play with their friends if they were a higher rank either
/notsigned
/notsigned
Lithril Ashwalker
[you dont see the point. none of you do. if we made it where we couldnt be descriminated wh ogives crap, its same as ursan used to be, yet you bitched about poepl arent wanting to let us go cause im just r2 ursan...WAH! also
screw you dude im not called a noob its just too damn difficult to start a group that knows wtf they are doing, randomway sucks and half you you assholes with high ranks think just because your a low rank you suck. im tired of that shit. im at 111 fame. so screw you dude
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You are either called noob cus you weren't good enough and got frustated and decided to make a topic. Or you are to damn lazy to find some same ranked people or maybe some ranked people to do lots of HA get better and get ranked. Like join a guild. Get a glad rank and use that. They whole idea would only fit for Ascalon arena and not for PvP |
Warvic
Dude calm down. I'm not a high rank either. But a r13 challenged me to a scrim. Ranger vs ranger. I actually won. it was enough proof for me, that I do have some skills after 4.5 years, despite having a low HA rank.
BUT
On the other hand. I'm getting dam sick of all the scrubs in HA that wanna join a r4/5/6/7 team. BECAUSE most of them do not have the req skills. And it will get anoying. there r plenty of decent Ha'ers out there, so why take the noobs, and get wtfpwnd.
YES A LOW RANK HERE DEFENDING THE HIGH RANKS.
Btw, Start an own guild, run rtl/iway/sfway and other gimmicks.. whatever. Make sure you play alot of HA the upcoming weekend. It get's easyer with every rank you get.
My tip is to start in easyer formats like RA/CM/AB. Just to get decent skills. Oh and you could also just create own r4/5 teams, but never show ur title. shht!
/notsigned
BUT
On the other hand. I'm getting dam sick of all the scrubs in HA that wanna join a r4/5/6/7 team. BECAUSE most of them do not have the req skills. And it will get anoying. there r plenty of decent Ha'ers out there, so why take the noobs, and get wtfpwnd.
YES A LOW RANK HERE DEFENDING THE HIGH RANKS.
Btw, Start an own guild, run rtl/iway/sfway and other gimmicks.. whatever. Make sure you play alot of HA the upcoming weekend. It get's easyer with every rank you get.
My tip is to start in easyer formats like RA/CM/AB. Just to get decent skills. Oh and you could also just create own r4/5 teams, but never show ur title. shht!
/notsigned
Shut A You Face
Why not make a tier where ranks 0-4 can only play and a second tier where all can join. That way new people can get the training and some fame/rank while learning basic strategies and gameplay.... Or HA can grow old and extinct like TA.
I fail to see why most of you shoot down good ideas because they help "noobs". Maybe try adding ideas of how things CAN work instead of always knocking peoples ideas down...
My 2 cents.
I fail to see why most of you shoot down good ideas because they help "noobs". Maybe try adding ideas of how things CAN work instead of always knocking peoples ideas down...
My 2 cents.
Leigh The Legendary
Seriously ranking up in HA is not hard to do even now with a dead game. I got an account to r6 in 4 months this past month and didn't know anyone when I started. I just went in with a good attitude (no complaining), willing to run anything (even randomway, all the randomways I could join), read wiki on HA tactics, vent, uax (fully unlocked skills), patience, and the willing to do anything that was asked of me. That is not a lot to ask for if you are serious about getting rank, and if you do those things chances are you will eventually run with a guild that is higher ranked than you because they like you or people that ask you to go when you get on all the time.
X Ghoul
The only problem I have with people who complain "ohh rank discrimination blah blah blah" you really don't have to join other peoples group nor is it the only way to get fame, instead form your own groups. The only problem with that is obviously you wont do well with other 0-3 rank'ed players which is the reason 90% of all ha grps are based on rank, even though a r10 can play as bad as a r0 (some) but people just assume a r10 is going to play better than a r0. -also last sidenote: everyone who is r9/10/11+ has been in your situation, we know the fame sucks but just keep getting at it and find other players who you enjoy playing with and do good.
Del
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[you dont see the point. none of you do. if we made it where we couldnt be descriminated wh ogives crap, its same as ursan used to be, yet you bitched about poepl arent wanting to let us go cause im just r2 ursan...WAH! also
screw you dude im not called a noob its just too damn difficult to start a group that knows wtf they are doing, randomway sucks and half you you assholes with high ranks think just because your a low rank you suck. im tired of that shit. im at 111 fame. so screw you dude |
greep
/notsigned. Probably would've been a good idea... 2 years ago when HA had the people to support this.
paranon
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superraptors
ha is already dead from super long waiting time between games, by seperating of whats left would really kill HA
plus
srsly i could get a team together who are high ranked and go on alternate accounts and dominate r3-4 ha if it was made, free zkeys wooo
also final note, dont compare pve to pvp, max rank pve can be acquired in a mere of few days, pvp is not, u have to work for it [unless ur good syncing]
truly a bad idea
plus
srsly i could get a team together who are high ranked and go on alternate accounts and dominate r3-4 ha if it was made, free zkeys wooo
also final note, dont compare pve to pvp, max rank pve can be acquired in a mere of few days, pvp is not, u have to work for it [unless ur good syncing]
truly a bad idea
Winterclaw
The rank 0-4 will still have most people looking for r3+. 4-7 will still have people focusing on r7. If you want to get into PvP you need to find a guild that will take someone without rank or get a bunch of friends who don't care.
Del
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The rank 0-4 will still have most people looking for r3+. 4-7 will still have people focusing on r7. If you want to get into PvP you need to find a guild that will take someone without rank or get a bunch of friends who don't care.
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when i was unranked i randomwayed with a guy and ended up in his guild just by not sucking.
qvtkc
If you want ladders go play GvG.
HA is fun because it's mixed.
HA is fun because it's mixed.
Zahr Dalsk
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someone suggested this before, lurk more. also, bad idea, segmenting the playerbase even more would cause people to play even less.
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With the pain of rank discrimination drastically reduced, there'd be a reason to try HA.
Not nearly as good as pure Random HA would be, but still.
Lithril Ashwalker
well if i dont want to make a guild, what if i like the one im in now?(dont make some retort about it either) if i could just get a group of friends or players that will eventually become friends maybe i could get my rank up some. i mean im not a complete noob, its not hard to kill a target someone calls or look around to kill a target thats almost dead, thats common sense. im not making this thread on my own accord but im just staing the dilemas that most of us face. so yeah, im in a mainly pve only alliance
Del
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well if i dont want to make a guild, what if i like the one im in now?(dont make some retort about it either) if i could just get a group of friends or players that will eventually become friends maybe i could get my rank up some. i mean im not a complete noob, its not hard to kill a target someone calls or look around to kill a target thats almost dead, thats common sense. im not making this thread on my own accord but im just staing the dilemas that most of us face. so yeah, im in a mainly pve only alliance
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Zahr Dalsk
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everyone else had to do it to get to where they are
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troll
If noobs only fight noobs they won't learn anything and when they do rank up they won't have the skills to back it up. And rank will become meaningless because it'd be as easy to get fame for an r0 as for an r10+. It would turn ha into pve.
UnChosen
But if noobs keep fighting pro and lose and get nearly no fame at all its just as pointless because it doesn't accurately reflect their effort.
The is a case of too little, too late. The rank system from the very beginning should reward noob team MORE for winning against higher rank teams. And losing a match should also result in losing fame, and again based on the rank difference. And there should also be some sort of personal statistics like "interrupt success rate", "protection success rate", "average win rate against N rank groups", etc.
That way only people who actually tries would be good. The current system over reward the early starter and screws over the late comers.
The is a case of too little, too late. The rank system from the very beginning should reward noob team MORE for winning against higher rank teams. And losing a match should also result in losing fame, and again based on the rank difference. And there should also be some sort of personal statistics like "interrupt success rate", "protection success rate", "average win rate against N rank groups", etc.
That way only people who actually tries would be good. The current system over reward the early starter and screws over the late comers.
Del
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IWAY, and builds like it. Your argument is invalid.
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Reverend Dr
Please lets take an arena that is already plagued with long waits between matches, huge skips in map order, 1v1 halls when halls isn't a restart itself, and further divide up the population. That will make it better!
This might have worked 3 years ago, but putting it in today is would kill the format overnight.
This might have worked 3 years ago, but putting it in today is would kill the format overnight.
Zahr Dalsk
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People still ask for rank for lameway builds, your argument is invalid.
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Lithril Ashwalker
no one wants to start a nub team to get creamed by experienced players(*your argument is invalid!*
this weekends event for double fame only brings more rank wanting teams for stupid team builds like r/a sway, which this case r/a sway counters r/a sway with an orders. you get no fing where! a VoR mes can counter another VoR mes, orders can be screwed over by opposing team, its a matter of who did what first. its completely hopeless to start a group of your own anymore, they are noobs...hell im a noob wtf does it prove to start my own team
this weekends event for double fame only brings more rank wanting teams for stupid team builds like r/a sway, which this case r/a sway counters r/a sway with an orders. you get no fing where! a VoR mes can counter another VoR mes, orders can be screwed over by opposing team, its a matter of who did what first. its completely hopeless to start a group of your own anymore, they are noobs...hell im a noob wtf does it prove to start my own team
Morphy
Bad idea because rank isn't literally the same as skill. In most cases, ranked players are better. But what about people who only play GvG and want to occasionally play HA? You can't expect them to have monster ranks, even though a top GvG player is better than a high ranked HA player.
For that reason and many other reasons people have put up here, /unsigned. Think more about the consequences of major changes such as this one.
For that reason and many other reasons people have put up here, /unsigned. Think more about the consequences of major changes such as this one.
Lithril Ashwalker
could give a damn about the consequences, everyones adjusted to such thigns as HB and TA being removed. why not a change to HA?
Del
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could give a damn about the consequences
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greep
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People still ask for rank for lameway builds, your argument is invalid.
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lemming
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why not a change to HA?
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Lithril Ashwalker
off topic, its kind of pathetic that a-net requires majority over logic, if the majority of players dont want it they dont care about logic, hence the nerf to shadow form, back on topic... if it makes sense to make things fair more players dont want to go away from their precious winning streak of HA thus dont want it to change to where they can keep beating noobs...randomway sucks and its time for everythign to be fair, regardless if you guys say Nay. its logical, who cares how long it will take to edit, & just because im a noob at HA and others are as well doesnt mean we dont have good ideas. Change HA to be fair, or at least easy to get fame. now instead of posting arguments/reasons ; type your reason THEN /unsign or /sign that way more clarification on what to do. stop wasting time and explaining past events on why it wouldnt be a good change. hell if you guys had more aof a challaenge anyway r7 vs r7/9's i wouldnt complain , technically if you guys got that rank from doing HA as it is now then all youve done is beat noobs. no skill there. good job you can mash buttons GG
Del
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off topic, its kind of pathetic that a-net requires majority over logic, if the majority of players dont want it they dont care about logic,
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Lithril Ashwalker
HA dead? have you even gone to international dists...? its fing packed... what rock are you under, in fact, how do you KNOW it wont bring HA players back? It may even pack HA even more to the matter, if all you guys do is get lucky to fight against noobs then you didnt really deserve the rank in the first place. im sticking by me idea regardless, every time something comes out of the next posters mouth, its about how less peeps will play. THATS irrelevant. ive put thought into the change, if you have a rank and want to prove yourself, fine, kill a team of your own rank. if you want to earn the right to move to fight stronger players, work your way up by fighting your OWN ranks as noobs. i stand by what i said. noobs fight noobs, exp players...balances out everything including who gets end chest easier(all equal) who youll fight at halls during a 3 way as well. and maybe ...just maybe, less skill nerfs
Del
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HA dead? have you even gone to international dists...? its fing packed... what rock are you under, in fact, how do you KNOW it wont bring HA players back? It may even pack HA even more to the matter, if all you guys do is get lucky to fight against noobs then you didnt really deserve the rank in the first place. im sticking by me idea regardless, every time something comes out of the next posters mouth, its about how less peeps will play. THATS irrelevant. ive put thought into the change, if you have a rank and want to prove yourself, fine, kill a team of your own rank. if you want to earn the right to move to fight stronger players, work your way up by fighting your OWN ranks as noobs. i stand by what i said. noobs fight noobs, exp players...balances out everything including who gets end chest easier(all equal) who youll fight at halls during a 3 way as well. and maybe ...just maybe, less skill nerfs
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Lithril Ashwalker
...whatever dude if you payed attention i suggested that have each rank separated by districts only allowing certain ranks to go into. that way no timer restarts...my idea also eliminates that prob. way to read GG.