Preliminary Skill Update Notes: Feb 19
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StormDragonZ

Ugh
                    Aneeet... I'm boooored...... hurry up...
	
	
Pft. Skill updates don't come out at a regular time; save your complaints for tomorrow (PST). They didn't even confirm it would be today.
As for it being 5 months late: A nerf of all major farming builds is srs and shouldn't be rushed. Also, the Test Krewe took some time to set up.
Maybe I have too much faith in people.
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	| How silly of us to trust Anet, silly silly us. Haven't we realised they dont do anything but PLAY GW2. Work?-HAH! Skill Updates?-HAH! "Who do you think we are, responsible game developers??!?!" | 
As for it being 5 months late: A nerf of all major farming builds is srs and shouldn't be rushed. Also, the Test Krewe took some time to set up.
Maybe I have too much faith in people.

The Josip
Killed u man
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	| Aneeet... I'm boooored...... hurry up... Pft. Skill updates don't come out at a regular time; save your complaints for tomorrow (PST). They didn't even confirm it would be today. As for it being 5 months late: A nerf of all major farming builds is srs and shouldn't be rushed. Also, the Test Krewe took some time to set up. Maybe I have too much faith in people. | 
Problem is I'm so tired right now, yet at the same time wanna see the update really bad. If only they let us know it would be tonight or not, I could actually know wether or not it's worth to stay up or not...

jazilla
                    This is like NFL teams taking their full 10 minutes on draft day. Waiting for this update is painful. Also, if it wasn't going to happen today, they should have sent Regina with a Copy and Paste message for us about why it's not happening today and said message should have been posted as soon as they knew, not at 5PM PST when they are all headed home or out for a beer.
                
            
mlandry
                    What does a mesmer have to do to get a buff in PvE? I read the prelim changes and it seems they have been ignored again.
Just to be clear, it's not like I only play mesmer. I have one of every character and I've played a ton of hours on all of them. My mesmer isn't even my main.
I have Legendary Guardian on my mesmer so I'm not trying to say they are useless. But the small amount of viable HM builds is ridiculous. The even smaller amount of builds (1, pretty much) that will allow you to get a team is just saddening.
I realize they are better in PvP. That's not the point. I want to be able to play a domination or illusion mesmer without filling my bar with PvE skills and actually having a viable build instead of being useless and having my heroes do everything. I know it's possible to make a semi-decent domination build without PvE skills but that's pretty much where it ends for mesmers.
            Just to be clear, it's not like I only play mesmer. I have one of every character and I've played a ton of hours on all of them. My mesmer isn't even my main.
I have Legendary Guardian on my mesmer so I'm not trying to say they are useless. But the small amount of viable HM builds is ridiculous. The even smaller amount of builds (1, pretty much) that will allow you to get a team is just saddening.
I realize they are better in PvP. That's not the point. I want to be able to play a domination or illusion mesmer without filling my bar with PvE skills and actually having a viable build instead of being useless and having my heroes do everything. I know it's possible to make a semi-decent domination build without PvE skills but that's pretty much where it ends for mesmers.
makafri
                    where is my update ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!asjkdasdaposdj!
                
            
The Josip
                    Unless it's a mesmer farming build?
ESPECIALLY a nerf of all major farming builds should be rushed. Nothing else needs rushing but vastly overpowered skills. It's not like farmers won't come up with 2nd best farming skill. I don't mind if people farm, heck, I don't even mind 600... but SF? It's too late now anyway.
            ESPECIALLY a nerf of all major farming builds should be rushed. Nothing else needs rushing but vastly overpowered skills. It's not like farmers won't come up with 2nd best farming skill. I don't mind if people farm, heck, I don't even mind 600... but SF? It's too late now anyway.

Turbo Ginsu
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	| "The Lord loves a hangin', that's why he gave us necks!" | 
 
                
Chocobo1
                    Was thinking, why not make Prot Spirit end after 10-20 attacks? I know no one wants Prot Spirit touched, but I think 10-20 attacks would be fine for normal PvE, but would stop 600 tanking?
Anyways bring on the update plox.
            Anyways bring on the update plox.

drkn
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	| Unless it's a mesmer farming build? | 
@up: with 5s recharge?

AngelWJedi

mlandry

drkn
                    i know me/e solo build to farm raptors with, but it's just mesmer's version of the popular elementalist build. and it's still a bit slower. and using just 2/8 mesmer skills.
must've been a version of sf on echo + massive degen, so just a version of sin's build.
i mean, there are some builds a mesmer can adapt and use. they are slower than original, but they usually work. yet they're not 'mesmer farming builds', since mesmer primairy doesn't make them better and they usually use more skills from secondary.
            must've been a version of sf on echo + massive degen, so just a version of sin's build.
i mean, there are some builds a mesmer can adapt and use. they are slower than original, but they usually work. yet they're not 'mesmer farming builds', since mesmer primairy doesn't make them better and they usually use more skills from secondary.

Ugh
                    Don't be ridiculous! Mesmers will never have a farming build. 
	
	
Yes, they should have done it QUICKLY. No, they shouldn't rush through it, half-ass it, and end up not solving anything (or making things worse). Although, they might do that anyway. :|
	
	
I think nerfing Spell Breaker or the smiting enchantments would be more appropriate.
                
            
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	| ESPECIALLY a nerf of all major farming builds should be rushed. Nothing else needs rushing but vastly overpowered skills. It's not like farmers won't come up with 2nd best farming skill. I don't mind if people farm, heck, I don't even mind 600... but SF? It's too late now anyway. | 
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	| Was thinking, why not make Prot Spirit end after 10-20 attacks? I know no one wants Prot Spirit touched, but I think 10-20 attacks would be fine for normal PvE, but would stop 600 tanking? Anyways bring on the update plox. | 

Zapper901
                    My money is on them making Spellbreaker simply not allow you to cast spells while it is on you.
                
            
jazilla
                    At the bottom of the official wiki page pertaining to Regina's post in this very thread: "As mentioned above, this list of changes is not final. Additional adjustments, additions, and deletions may take place during our final week of testing. Thanks for reading!" I take that "Final Week" business as this build is coming this week!
                
            
vamp08
                    Regina, please /resign from Anet
                
            Apok Omen
                    I wonder if they added Victory Is Mine! to the list. You know, since they are reverting Steelfang Slash, a skill that made BackBreaker chaining possible, why not revert ViM, a skill that took trapping to a whole... 'notha... level?
Also, I'm pretty sure Anet is just waiting till the wee hours of the night to release the update to build up suspense.
Off-topic: Who wants to bet they are gonna fix a bug that allowed Guild Wars to be installed?
            Also, I'm pretty sure Anet is just waiting till the wee hours of the night to release the update to build up suspense.
Off-topic: Who wants to bet they are gonna fix a bug that allowed Guild Wars to be installed?
Trader of Secrets
                    yawn . . . still waiting
                
            kade
                    wont come today
                
            Alatar The Red
                    It's almost 4 AM in Finland and I'm really.... really tired of waiting  
                
             
                
Gill Halendt
                    I told you. They said Feb 25, they didn't specify which year...  
                
             
                
Atro
                    where did you get this info at
                
            
hitsuji182
Ghost Dog
                    Almost 6 pm there so...lots of time left.
                
            
Chocobo1
                    Rocking 3pm here in New Zealand. No more delays please, updates are now the most exciting part of this game.
                
            Elephantaliste
                    could be 25 feb 2010 GMT-48
                
            AlsPals
                    Guess the real update will come when GW2 does.
                
            
Operations
                    I told you people, there will Be No Update. 
They are too busy trying to get a name for their stupid Soccer Team.
There Will Be No Update.
Third time I've told you all.
            They are too busy trying to get a name for their stupid Soccer Team.
There Will Be No Update.
Third time I've told you all.

Gill Halendt
                    There it is.
                
            Bill Clinton
                    Its here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm in urgoz so cant restart yet, can anyone tell me what the changes are?
            I'm in urgoz so cant restart yet, can anyone tell me what the changes are?
makafri
                    I guess shadow form is inmune even to the devs
                
            
Operations
                    Oh, now, this time, they make a liar out of me. 
What happened... I was the prophet of DOOM! Now... ah well.
*reads update*
            What happened... I was the prophet of DOOM! Now... ah well.
*reads update*

Atro
                    HAHAHAHAHA NERF, and i cant get in GW, that was the nerf xD
                
            
-Makai-
                    Woo hoo!  Here it is!
                
            
Moonlit Azure
                    It is upon us.
                
            
Chocobo1
                    Where are teh patch notes? Brb going on mah monk
Edit: Holy Wrath ate it. Hard.
            Edit: Holy Wrath ate it. Hard.
Alatar The Red
                    New build of guild wars is available .....  
                
             
                

