Anyone tried this build before for PVE?

tlee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2010

I'm a sin/ranger right now.

Made all my 3 heroes (and including me) (vekk, Ogden, MOX) into rangers. Equipped all of them with ignite arrow+dual shot+forked arrow + distract shot + an elite(Either poison arrow or burning arrow) + 3 level 20 elder pets and a few pet skills.

PVE in faction is quite easy with some henchies. Ignite arrow makes mobs scatter and run around since it's an AOE.

Useful since it keeps away from the death explosions (most of the time) the afflicted mobs give off after death..

angelic spud

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

[SCAR]

N/

I would really suggest at least using ranger heroes.

Zodiac Meteor

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

E/Mo

I like my teams life expectancy to be more than 5 minutes. Rangers with bows is fine, but Odgen, Vekk and MOX...

3 Hero Rangers works fine, but there is better builds.

IronSheik

IronSheik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Wolfenstein: Goldrush

Zombies Go Nom Nom [Nom]

N/

3 rangers with orders ebon battle stand and favorable winds can be good.

But...rangers...not..eles..monks..dervs

HigherMinion

HigherMinion

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

East Anglia, UK

Order of [Thay]

N/

Well, as a MoP nuker I used three ranger heroes with Dual-shot bound to a key on my number pad, and when I barbs/MoP something, the spike from dual-shot is hilarious.

But... Why did you give THEM bows? They are not worthy of bow wielding!

TalanRoarer

TalanRoarer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Manchester, England

Gil Worz Is Srs [Bsns]

N/A

Sometimes using a secondary proffesion more than your main works well. This however won't. Stick to using your heroes primary proffesions for the time being, you'll find out that it'll work much smoother than using them as Rangers.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

I would argue that based on the selection of heroes, these guys seem to be his first or even ONLY heroes he has access to. So crappy builds can be expected.
Still, I would look at running Veky, Dunks, Gwen (or better yet - since you have MOX it's clear you have all campaigns so I'd jump to Nightfall and do the starting quests and then at least pick up Oli) and you stick to what you feel like doing - either running a bow or go run a dagger assassin. The benefit of going to Nightfall is that you'll advance your Sunspear title allowing you to use Critical Agility.
What you'd want to do though is put Splinter Weapon on at least one of the guys - I normally run spirit spam on my monks until I get a ritualist. Use your normal channeling/smiting hybrid, but modified for a monk primary (Signet of Spirits, Bloodsong, Spirit Syphon, Ancestor's Rage, Strength Of Honor, Smiter's Boon, Smite Hex, Reversal Of Damage). It gives you some nice options and it will work out nicely for starters.
Veky can be a normal fire ele.
And then Oli (your average Minion master or a Minion Bomber) or Gwen (Gwen can easily be a fasting curser - Barbs, Enfeebling Blood, Shadow Of Fear, Defile Defenses, Rip Enchantment, Tease, Power Drain, Weaker Armour).


But then again - as long as it works and you are having fun, go with rangers!
Enjoy it.

Xsiriss

Xsiriss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

Cringe...please, please learn the mechanics of guild wars (look at builds on pvxwiki etc.) then try making your own.

vBeryl

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2009

D/W

Lol E/R, D/R and Mo/R heroes is the new wammo now right?

Srsly it takes under a day to get the 3 necro heroes, buy the skill unlock packs and then run discordway on them.

If you don't want to do sabway or discordway, use Vekk as e-Warder, MOX Battery and WoH monk on ogden, this will allow leeway that is close to sabway.

Kenzo Skunk

Kenzo Skunk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

Have you tried this in hard mode?

Lord Dagon

Lord Dagon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2009

Inside the Oblivion Gate

The Imperial Guards of Istan[TIGE]

E/Me

i dont know.. it really seems like a bad idea.
the build sounds ok( i guess) but if you have all those heros use rangers.... eles, dervs and monk heros using bows... /cringe

tlee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2010

haha.. i wanted 3 rangers, but didn't have time to obtain all those, but vekk, ogden and mox worked out very well... They actually do not die as much as i thought. They never had more than 15% DP in missions or just killing mobs for kicks. Try it.. If i had them as their original class, they actually die a lot more. Mobs tend to always go for the healers and casters...

The pets did all the distracting most of the time

I also did an all warriors (me being W/N and the rest W/M) build with well of power and well of blood. Worked out pretty nicely too.

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Originally Posted by Kenzo Skunk View Post
Have you tried this in hard mode?
not yet, but i will... as soon as i beat factions.

Quote: Originally Posted by Xsiriss View Post Cringe...please, please learn the mechanics of guild wars (look at builds on pvxwiki etc.) then try making your own. hey, just because you don't like the builds doesn't mean it doesn't work.... it's a weird build but it seems to work so far..

Quote:
Originally Posted by vBeryl View Post
Lol E/R, D/R and Mo/R heroes is the new wammo now right?

Srsly it takes under a day to get the 3 necro heroes, buy the skill unlock packs and then run discordway on them.

If you don't want to do sabway or discordway, use
Vekk as e-Warder, MOX Battery and WoH monk on ogden, this will allow leeway that is close to sabway. thanks.. i was reading about the nec discordway and looks cool. Gonna try it sometime.. Thanks for the tip...

actually, i was having a hard time beating the missions using henchies and my heroes as their original class.... maybe i am just a noob as using a Sin, but damn, i get own so easily in PVE...Quick damage, but a few chops and slashes from lvl 20+ warrior mobs and I'm dead. Yes, I have the max 70 armor on with +10 armor insignias on all the pieces. The Sin actually makes a good ranger

I'm new to factions and nightfalls. Been playing prohecies for a while and then took a vacation for over 2 yrs and just got back about 2 months ago

tlee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2010

now my problem is finding necro heroes in factions and nightfalls.. don't really feel like playing EOTN again to get the nec heroes..

can i turn my heroes now to just necs and still be good with the discordway build?

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

This might be fun when the new HaO comes in, doesnt that cause the pet to steal health or something now? But yes, as everyone says, use ranger heroes not monks etc.

Hopefully, having rangers with self heals, blocking stances etc will reduce the need for more active healing. But I think you'd be better with 2 ranger heroes and a N/Rt healer with splinter weapon. Something like:

2x R/Any HoA, Lightning Reflexes, RtW, Dshot, Savage Shot, Sloth Hunters, (Another att skill), Res sig/Hard res

1x N/Rt Xinrae's Weap, Splinter Weap, Ancestors' Rage, Mend Body and Soul, Spirit Light, PwK, Life, Signet of Lost Souls

That might work, it will give you more survivability and splinter will tear through groups, and with the new AR being armour ignoring it should pop out some nice damage, hopefully the N/Rt will have the wherewithall to cast it on the pets.

dagrdagaz

dagrdagaz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2010

NL

E/N

Bfore i got Olias i used Vekk as a E/N for some minions.
When u just started playing GW and doing NM, a minion wall only will suffice to have yer party not overrun, when facing alot foes.
The main purpose of my Vekk E/N build is summon minions. I also put effort into energy managenent cos Vekk doesnt have SR.
To just have small minion army it worked good enough.

Vekk E/N Air
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Vekk E/N Fire
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Vekk E/N Water
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Basically its energy managemant and some minion summon skills, u can go for any mix u like. But using at least Bone Horror or Bone Minions is recommended, cos of the lower recharge time, so u can have more of those minions faster.