Do the Pro's outweigh the Con's of Leeching?

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

in a house

The Knitters Guild

W/R

As the title state,

Discuss

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

No

1234567890

Call me when you have more of a talking point.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

Leching? .......

Silverblad3

Silverblad3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

UK

I use to love CB :(

Mo/

I have never done this and I am going to be flamed for 'the I know a friend who did'...but one of my GW buddies did this in JQ, never recevied a ban and only got dishonorable. I got so many complaints when I was the GL that I had no choice except to kick him from the guild. It did not stop him and he maxed his luxon title.

It made me mad that Anet let so many folks do this and I hated JQ for it.

Go figure.....

Silver

ll Jamie ll

ll Jamie ll

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

Devon, England.

Desolation Lords [DL]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
No
^
He's summed this up.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Pros:

you gets lots of faction.
you don't have to do anything.
you don't have to get annoyed at other leechers while farming faction.

Cons:

you get dishonorable a few times... not that it matters because you're AFK/scripting anyway.



As far as an individual goes, the pros clearly outweigh the cons. Thank Anet and have "fun."

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

What are the pros of being a douche-bag?

Miss Puddles

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

Thanks to the repliers for clarifying my initial response of "leeching what?"

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

Anyone who considers leeching an acceptable game-play method is a/an _______. (Fill in your own answer.)

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

Sadly, the pros do outweight the imposed cons. However, the biggest con is living with the knowledge you're a leeching non-contributary scumbag. Unfortunately, many can live with that, how I don't know. I feel bad if I lag and don't get Fallback up soon enough to cap yellow...

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~ View Post
What are the pros of being a douche-bag?
+1 plus if you need to leech i feel sad for you learn to play pvp xD

Regulus X

Regulus X

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

N/A

D/W

Pros > Cons simply because there're too many players that:

a.) legitimately don't know what leeching is and/or fail to report them,
b.) do know what leeching is and just and turn the blind eye (thus not reporting them),
c.) are the leecher themselves.

So in a nutshell, the people are either ignorant, fake ignorance because they're pro-botting (and probably have a fair share of botting, or winning alongside bots themselves), or actively bot while LOLOLing aaaaall the waaaaay hooooome. I've seen so many Searing Flames eles in Random Arenas, and players seldomly report them. Since they never get reported and dealt with, they make it to at least glad rank 3-5 before ever being punished. I've even seen some of those botters type "LOL" while I'm calling them out as botters during gameplay, which tells me that they're completely shameless in their work. It's sad watching them advance through the ranks by way of cheating, and it only ruins the title's prestige. It's reportedly gone as far as into 8v8 with rupt-bots, too.

So, for the botters: Pros greatly outweigh the Cons due to apathetic bot-supporters or truly ignorant players. Not enough /reports go out to put a stop to them, really.

Tullzinski

Tullzinski

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Trying to stay out of Ryuk's Death Note

N/R

People leeching off of bots??? Holy crap!

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Are we talking about pvp or raptor farming?

Archress Shayleigh

Archress Shayleigh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2009

Guild Hall

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw View Post
Are we talking about pvp or raptor farming?
ROFL WIN!!!!
On point-
Yes, the pros are far greater. But, think about the fact that lots of people will dislike you and disrespect you for being a tard.

Gennadios

Gennadios

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2009

N/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archress Shayleigh View Post
...think about the fact that lots of people will dislike you and disrespect you for being a tard.
Who'se more 'tardy, the person actually working for points or the person who'se out enjoying life and leave the tedious sh*t to scripts?

Don't forget, a player can only log so many hours of playtime per day, a script can run indefinitely, so even with the occasional being sidelined for 10 minutes, being @ it for 24 hours will still give the script more points.

Thanks to ANet's non-existent disciplinary system, the economics is well on the side of the leecher.

Not to mention it's a huge game, who'se gonna disrespect you? Just play a diff char and the vast majority of ppl will never know it's you.

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

Leeching = cheating. How many people respect cheaters?

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Pro: you get free Asura reputation points
Con: it's not the fastest way to get them and you don't get any drops or money.

Hyperventilate

Hyperventilate

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Somewhere in California

I Gots A Crayon [Blue]

Me/Mo

I know in FA that pretty much once the "regulars" identify a bot/leecher, that person is marked for life and they're reported on sight with encouragement from other people to do so. Not always, I admit, I have often been the only one reporting one of the two, but it does happen a little bit more than never.

Anyway, when this does happen that just stops the faction gain right then and there for these "people" (I use this term loosely in the case of the botter). This just means they're going to hang around more because they're not getting the faction they want.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gennadios View Post
Who'se more 'tardy, the person actually working for points or the person who'se out enjoying life and leave the tedious sh*t to scripts?
No, it's the guy who was 'tardy enough to write the script to get what he wants. Does this guy also pay someone to stand in line for him at the store, pay someone to watch the birth of his child, or pays someone to go pick up his kids at school?


Wouldn't want to interfere on the life enjoyment by pesky necessities.

snowman relic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2009

your just a meatsheild to me

N/Mo

Uhh i see many things on scrips doing the leeching for you here but i thought scripting (botting) is a bannable offence...

Shadow Feathers

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2010

If this isn't a trolling topic I don't know what is. Far as the pros and cons it simply comes down to this. Do you enjoy doing absolutely nothing for your rewards and like screwing people over to get what you want for free because you can get away with it ? Then by all means leech, nobody is going to really stop you right ? Must be a really good feeling deep down inside to know you're the man. Hell you get to burn up band width, put stress on servers, and hell you're not even really there so who does it really hurt.

It's far from a victimless crime folks, every gamer involved where this is going on is affected. In one way shape or form we pay for it, be it letting gold sellers loose on the servers or simply making it harder for average gamers to obtain things because others are getting rich for doing nothing and some actually making money selling VR items. We all take a part of ourselves into the game and for those who see this is " awe it's okay, everyone does it " or " screw that I can do as I please " you must keep one thing in mind. These may be avatars, toons on a screen, or whatever you feel like calling them but there's a real person controling that bot and I wonder what type of a person he or she is bringing into the gaming community ?

I think that would have been a better question to ask there OP.

The-Bigz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2010

Cause you think I troll doesn't make my point less valid

We Roll Pros [POD]

A/W

Somebody really and truely made this topic.

Brb waiting 10 seconds for daze to wearoff.

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

I don't think it's about respect, guys, it's about efficiency :P

That being said, Yes, the pros outway the cons. However, I don't leech :P

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

If you are not phased by what other people think of you, yes. If not, no.

One sided topics like this where you present your morals to other people are always going to be "righteous."

AlsPals

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Sellin hot stock tips for pro[fit]

Me/E

Pros>cons. I dont even go to JQ, but truthfully, if your gonna care what people think of you on an online game(opinions of people who frown upon you) you can lose respect in alot of ways in game. I dont advocate the shit, but Anet built these crummy title systems in ways that bring the worst out of people.

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

Yes, pros>cons (assuming FA/JQ here).

The people who are leeching are smart, no one reports in that arena. Cheating seems pointless to me, as it takes away from the experience of reaching goals.

Sad part is, once 600/smite is nerfed, JQ/FA is going to be the main way to get faction for most people.

The Josip

The Josip

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2009

Me/

Leeching is very profitable. I tried it (flame on) when after few min I was annoyed with my team. It's awesome. Leeching gets you lots of faction for doing nothing. Dishonorable hex is a joke.


Oh, and I avoid leeching because I have moral problems doing it. You really need specific mindframe to leech and ruin other peoples gameplay.

rick1027

rick1027

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~ View Post
What are the pros of being a douche-bag?
this has been my question all along

Charr

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

W/A

Being a douche-bag is rewarding enough in itself.

Regulus X

Regulus X

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

N/A

D/W

Being a douchebag will get you titles and rewards for no effort at all [apperently]. The even sadder part is that the rest of the players [especially those partaking in a match alongside those botters/cheaters] just stand there and do absolutely nothing about it. They even tag right along with the botter in hopes of winning and reaping rewards while oblivious of the fact that they themselves are spending all their time playing to win while the botter right beside them is AFK. It boggles my mind 'til this day why players support botters/cheaters.