I miss Gaile Gray

Lazy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

I do!
I miss the very open display of dedication and involvement that was Gaile Gray.

After Gaile left we got this "Regina Buenowhatever" person as CRM... She did a few wiki updates and also posted here on occasion when the manure went airborne, but apart from that - No action, reaction, response, whatever...

After almost 2 years I do NOT expect, or even hope, that Regina will ascend to be anything comparable to Gaile. I just hope that Anet will realize the value a dedicated CRM such as Gaile.

(Regina, feel free to bite back if I offended you. Any kind of interaction/response on your part will be an improvement in my book.)

maxxfury

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

[DVDF] Gp

Me/A

No offense to either but, id much rather see Regina's posts that actually convey SOME info, be it good or bad, unlike Gaille's usual random chat about nothing..

*shrugs

Del

Del

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2009

In a van, down by the river.

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Originally Posted by maxxfury View Post
No offense to either but, id much rather see Regina's posts that actually convey SOME info, be it good or bad, unlike Gaille's usual random chat about nothing..

*shrugs
This. i prefer getting some facts about what's going on rather than have an anet employee dodge the topic and chatter about inane bullshit.

oh, and mad props to Rev doc and the rest of them for that HoH joke guild name

JR

JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

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It's quite clear that both Regina and Martin are incredibly busy with Guild Wars 2. That does have an impact on the level of communication here, but it's not intentional neglect.

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

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I do miss Gaile yes, the style she used and her presence in general. Mike O'Brian, Patrick Wyatt and Jeff strain are like the fathers of GW and Gaile is like the mother.

That said, I do think that even though Regina uses another style, she's involved too and follows the forums on a regular basis, although you don't see her unless news or a problem turns up.

Chocobo1

Chocobo1

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

New Zealand

CoA

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I wouldn't directly blame Regina, it's not like she gets to decide exactly what she does. She's doing her job, she reports to higher authorities. Probably people who have never even played Guild Wars.

Lazy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by JR View Post
It's quite clear that both Regina and Martin are incredibly busy with Guild Wars 2. That does have an impact on the level of communication here, but it's not intentional neglect.
So... They are unintentionally busy with GW2?

Sorry, but not having a present and involved (beyond a single fansite forum) CRM, seems a bit cheap for a game that is still being sold and marketed.

@Del/Maxxfury: Fair points, But: Please consider the 'reach' of the communication.

Aussie Boy

Aussie Boy

Alcoholic

Join Date: Mar 2007

Australia

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No offence to Regina but I miss Gail too she at least talked to us a few times a day yeah i know info was not always correct lol
She was doing her job way better than Regina is in actualy "talking" to the player base about dev things and from her point of view just playing as one of us
and things she would like to SEE happen/change in the game.
I miss the conga lines too

maxxfury

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

[DVDF] Gp

Me/A

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Originally Posted by Lazy View Post

@Del/Maxxfury: Fair points, But: Please consider the 'reach' of the communication.
ID rather they were actually working on the game and informing us when needed instead of pretending to be a frog, taking gifts from players and chatting away about stuff of no relevance...

Regina gets us more relevant info and feedback than gaile ever did, most of gaile's chat seemed to be just that..chat. She was nice enough and all but meh.

AlsPals

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Sellin hot stock tips for pro[fit]

Me/E

Loved Gaile. Even had her on my friends list(we spoke in beta) and talked to her regularly for a while. I don't know Regina, but she doesn't post in any meaningful way that makes me want to .(NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo offense to her. She has a hard job, we can all agree. Forum kiddies are a tough crowd )

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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There are a number of people who will say that while Gaile spoke more often, she rarely said anything new. At least Regina gets something out when there is something to say.

I would like for there to be more to say, but I'm blaming the people in charge of anet for that and not her.

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazy View Post
I do!
I miss the very open display of dedication and involvement that was Gaile Gray.
Um....Gaile's still around. As a matter of fact, she responds more often than any other Anet employee on her GWW talk page (around once a day or more). And hell, she's been doing a lot of CR with all the security concerns lately.

And everyone else is right, even though Gaile may appear to care more than Regina does, we didn't actually get any more facts than we do now.

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

But as also said before, it's not their fault. If they're not being told what the live team is working on, or if they're not allowed, there's nothing they can do. A PR doesn't produce content for the message, they simply mold it in words. If there's no contect to work with, there's nothing they can tell us.

Garreth MacLeod

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
And everyone else is right, even though Gaile may appear to care more than Regina does, we didn't actually get any more facts than we do now.
Sometimes appearances are more important than not saying anything. Gaile at least gave the appearance that anet cared about the gw community. With RB, it appears they don't give a frak about the community.

Ariena Najea

Ariena Najea

Silence and Motion

Join Date: Jul 2006

Buffalo NY

New Horizon [NH]

Regina almost always posts in the more important threads in Riverside, and is a frequent reader of the forums. Also, she is clear in giving out information, and very responsive. Don't forget that most of "her" failures are actually the fault of her superiors, who tell her what she can and cannot do.

She does a terrific job.

Kattar

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

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I haven't seen Regina rage all over some forums...so I'd say she's doing a little better.

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

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Ya I miss her to. It was cool to see her purple chat text and flood LA dis
in a heart beat when she logged in. It was cool to break from the game play I guess.

basically It was neat to any GM in game to!!

Leohan

Leohan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2009

R/

Just have to say is Gaile is still an Anet employee and never left the company. She got a promotion, the "Farewell To Gaile" event I think confused some people. It's not her job anymore to communicate information or chat with us, but she does anyways from time to time, in or out of game because Gaile is awesome.

Regina does her job, and DOES IT WELL. It's not her job to be your friend. All her job in tells is getting on all the community/social websites and relay information making sure people understand what is going on.

Sorry you didn't get Gaile version 2.0 but, this post kind of annoyed me.

Ms Utena Tenjou

Ms Utena Tenjou

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Manchester,NH Or Boston Ma

Medieval Knights Refuge [Heal]

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I like Gaile she always made me smile when i saw her in game.. it was fun to chat and watch the frog and what not. I have yet to really know Regina in game and how she works things.. but i damn well know there doing there best to keep us going. So props to all around

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

Lol, what brought this on? Gaile has moved to a different job in ArenaNet and Regina took the old one of CRM. Regina does a great job. Her style may be different, but she is very responsive. All ANet employees that are in contact with the community have always been great.

@Chocobo1 - I believe that playing the game on a regular basis is a employment requirement at ArenaNet, or it used to be.

AlsPals

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Sellin hot stock tips for pro[fit]

Me/E

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Originally Posted by Kattar View Post
I haven't seen Regina rage all over some forums...so I'd say she's doing a little better.

Gaile raged? LOL! I wish I saw it. If you meant the occasional(and I mean a small but memorable occasion) snarky comment, then yea.

Great Scoot

Great Scoot

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Chicago

Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

R/E

she is online right now

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

@great scoot ya I see that. What town?

Shadow Feathers

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garreth MacLeod View Post
Sometimes appearances are more important than not saying anything. Gaile at least gave the appearance that anet cared about the gw community. With RB, it appears they don't give a frak about the community.
Hmm...... I think you all need to consider a few things here. One.... Guild Wars is not a pay to play game, so you honestly don't think they care ? They are providing a service and I'd like you to compare that to some of the other companies who charge a fee to play. With no money coming in from game fees I'd say they care about how people feel about the game. They will make nothing if you the customer don't feel like you're being taken care of, they have nothing to fall back on except the initial sale. So I don't see how anyone can say they don't care, it's a pretty lame argument.

However what I see mostly here many times is people simply crying over something they don't like or some game change they hate and then just start raging about things. Do you honestly think if you're job was to check on the gaming community and get feed back that you would even reply to the threads where you were flamed and the thread looked like a flame fest for 13 year olds or a QQ session about " How I hate Anet " ?

They do a fantastic job in my opinion and the only thing I could hold against them would be the fact that their hands are tied by NCsoft who unfortunately is the bigger dog in this pen and leads the pack. In my years of gaming I have not seen a company give back more and support it's fans any better then what Anet does now, in fact they have been the best at it. How many games that are not pay to play would receive attention like we get after almost 5 years after its release ?

Use your heads people..... The community relations manager do their job very well in my opinion and they are bond by what their supervisors and company tell them what they can or can not do.

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

I think Regina sometimes comes across badly through no fault of her own. Some people (myself included) have a way of saying things that doesn't translate particularly well to dry text. We can land up sounding like arrogant asshats, when we don't mean to sound like that. This can also be made worse when they aren't a native English speaker.

Regina's job is to pass on information to us when ArenaNet want us to have it and filter our feedback and pass it on to the dev team. Regina is NOT responsible for the myriad of perceived (by me too) failures on ANets part, she's just the one who has to pass the info on. Don't shoot the messenger.

She's also had a hell of an act to follow in Gaile Gray, which is never easy.

Hyperventilate

Hyperventilate

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Somewhere in California

I Gots A Crayon [Blue]

Me/Mo

Gaile has always been one of the most beloved women of GW and I think it's because she came to battle for us when no one else would (Especially now that she's the go-to person for support issues), and she made it feel like she genuinely gave a crap about what happened to the game. It was her game too, after all.

Regina has a tough job and honestly, I wouldn't want to deal with the people of Guild wars, but I have to say she lacks a certain charm that Gaile had. Like enter_the_zone said, Regina had a hard act to follow and I know she wasn't greeted with much praise.


Still... all in all?


I miss Gaile.

Trub

Trub

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

She ain't dead....
Shoot her an email, and say hiyas.

End

End

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

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Originally Posted by Hyperventilate View Post
Regina has a tough job and honestly, I wouldn't want to deal with the people of Guru, but I have to say she lacks a certain charm that Gaile had.
fixed it for ya... and proud to be part of said group...

otherwise i agree with ya whole heartedly Hyper

Hyperventilate

Hyperventilate

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Somewhere in California

I Gots A Crayon [Blue]

Me/Mo

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Originally Posted by End View Post
fixed it for ya... and proud to be part of said group...

otherwise i agree with ya whole heartedly Hyper
Point taken. I had actually typed in Guru, but refrained.

Thank you for correcting for me.

FlyMoto

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2009

I like Regina more, tbh. As others have stated, Gaile rarely said anything new. I remember reading chat logs of what Gaile would say hoping for fragments of new knowledge and realizing quickly she almost never said anything new (but she could create a conga line and everyone would go gaga).

Regina makes posts in the forums, and while it is definitely true that she carefully chooses what she does, and doesn't, say she does generally offer more useful of insight when she does post.

Regina isn't amazing, but I prefer her to Gaile (although I don't honestly expect amazing interaction).

Default137

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2010

Minnesnowda

Ouch

Rt/

I like Regina.

Sure, I would like a bit more idle chatter, it allows us to get to know a person more, and makes it seem like they care more about the game and the people then just a job, however, Regina does answer the questions, and she does try and get us the information as soon as she can, and I can respect that.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

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You know WHY it seems Regina isn't doing as much? The shitty 'official wiki'. For some reason, the ANet staff feel that wiki discussion pages are suitable methods of communication - when clearly they aren't. The ONLY reason Gaile seemed to be more active on forums, was because there was no wiki for her to post on.

Now there is, so go find some new Gaile posts. Oh wait, there are none, they're ALL on the wiki. Same as Regina.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

There is only so much you can do with a broken game.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix View Post
You know WHY it seems Regina isn't doing as much? The shitty 'official wiki'. For some reason, the ANet staff feel that wiki discussion pages are suitable methods of communication - when clearly they aren't. The ONLY reason Gaile seemed to be more active on forums, was because there was no wiki for her to post on.

Now there is, so go find some new Gaile posts. Oh wait, there are none, they're ALL on the wiki. Same as Regina.
you make me want to start a "I miss the old wiki" thread (Yes I preferred the old one that seemed to have more useful hints and tips than the sanitized official one).

I think when Gaile moved on, that the job description of the CRM probably got revised too. I've come to respect Regina for posting on here when needed (it seems more proactive lately) along with Martin.
I also miss the interaction of Gaile who appeared more involved with the community and her own style of hinting at things through the use of the frog etc, rather than just making announcements when required.

Remember, when Gaile was there, more stuff was new to the community (first time festivals etc) so there was more to be able to hint and tantalize with than there is today.

Both did/do their hard job well.

YunSooJin

YunSooJin

Pyromaniac

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix View Post
You know WHY it seems Regina isn't doing as much? The shitty 'official wiki'. For some reason, the ANet staff feel that wiki discussion pages are suitable methods of communication - when clearly they aren't. The ONLY reason Gaile seemed to be more active on forums, was because there was no wiki for her to post on.

Now there is, so go find some new Gaile posts. Oh wait, there are none, they're ALL on the wiki. Same as Regina.
They dont feel its better. They can control the communication better. It's all about power and perception.

-Makai-

-Makai-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

WA

DH

Rt/

Ah, wow. The "Joel VS Mike" debate finally spread to Guild Wars!

Hyaon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

P/W

my god! makes me sick the amount of people that suck up to any 'higher' authority in the hopes they'll get a nice treat for the brown nosing....where's my barf bucket!?

AlsPals

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Sellin hot stock tips for pro[fit]

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix View Post
You know WHY it seems Regina isn't doing as much? The shitty 'official wiki'. For some reason, the ANet staff feel that wiki discussion pages are suitable methods of communication - when clearly they aren't. The ONLY reason Gaile seemed to be more active on forums, was because there was no wiki for her to post on.

Now there is, so go find some new Gaile posts. Oh wait, there are none, they're ALL on the wiki. Same as Regina.
Totally agree. Its sad when you visit the wiki 10x more than the main site.

Rhododendron

Rhododendron

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2009

Rt/

http://www.wartower.de/news/content/ReginaBuenaobra.jpg

I never had the opportunity to know Gaile Gray or Regina Buenaobra so well as to start a thread comparing them , but until then, Gaile Gray doesn't have a google picture nicer than this one.

Smarty

Smarty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

England

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Gaile was fluff, Regina is substance. Substance is good but I like a bit of fluff every now and then. The feelgood factor is important IMO.