I come to the conclusion that farming bosses in HM is now officially impossible (if you ever want to get elite tomes or green weapons). Ever since the SF nerf, I can't think up of any build that can protect me from interrupts (both physical and magic), enchantment removal, spells, and attacks. In particular, there isn't any build that would allow me to farm even the easiest bosses like the Scar Eater, Woe Spreader, and Pywatt the Swift (and the daggers that Pywatt drops is amazing to equip to your assassin heroes). Luckily, I did manage to farm the woe spreaders I needed for the Discordway build, but I need about one to two more staffs for some of my other characters.
And don't suggest me on the stupid 55 SV/monk build. That build is BS and you are highly vulnerable to interrupts and health degen (particularly when dealing with Woe Spreader and his mobs where they have interrupts even for spells with a quarter second casting time).
Anyways, TLDR: Boss farming in HM is impossible, it can't be done. And I'll make a Youtube video to prove it.
HM Boss farming = impossible.
Dark Paladin X
chessyang
Naw don't give up. I'm just lazy and kill the mob and move the h/h off sceen.
Plus is it that early to say impossible?
On a side note it was fun to bring back the 55. But it seems so slow.
Plus is it that early to say impossible?
On a side note it was fun to bring back the 55. But it seems so slow.
kanuks
Kwith
This is going to come off as me being a complete jerk but I just don't care.
I honestly don't have a shred of sympathy for you. People overused that build to the point where they became so dependent on it that they became incapable of thinking on their own and coming up with something else.
Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the reason its called HARD MODE is because its not supposed to be something you can just walk all over by yourself?
So you can't farm a boss anymore, BOO HOO!! QQ!!
I'm glad ANet finally fixed that skill. Good riddance. Now perhaps people can start getting back to playing the game the way it was meant to be played.
Oh and if you don't agree with me I really don't care. Whats done is done, and I hope things stay this way.
I honestly don't have a shred of sympathy for you. People overused that build to the point where they became so dependent on it that they became incapable of thinking on their own and coming up with something else.
Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the reason its called HARD MODE is because its not supposed to be something you can just walk all over by yourself?
So you can't farm a boss anymore, BOO HOO!! QQ!!
I'm glad ANet finally fixed that skill. Good riddance. Now perhaps people can start getting back to playing the game the way it was meant to be played.
Oh and if you don't agree with me I really don't care. Whats done is done, and I hope things stay this way.
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I can still solo raptors on my ele btw...and yeah just in general
QQ moar plox I needs more tears to grow my emo army...
QQ moar plox I needs more tears to grow my emo army...
Lord Dagon
yep ele is mroe then capable of handling those simple raptors in hm.
Maybe do some research before you claim to only perma could have done it solo ;p.
Maybe do some research before you claim to only perma could have done it solo ;p.
CronkTheImpaler
I was just goin through the build list in my mind and i know that ele's and sprit spammers can farm boss's in HM. Theres actually a bunch you can farm with the spammer.
Dang man its only been like 36 hours since the giant Nerf Bat went after the skills. A little putzin around with skills goes a long way.
Cronk
Dang man its only been like 36 hours since the giant Nerf Bat went after the skills. A little putzin around with skills goes a long way.
Cronk
Wicked Sweet
yeah in fact I always prefered to farm raptors with my ele over the sin anyway, it is much faster because of the increased earth magic from runes.
IronSheik
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
The purpose of boss farming in HM is to do without having ANYONE in your party and do it sololy.
Honestly, I can't think of a build that can farm raptors sololy across from the perma SF (oh yea, the W/N have a hero involved in it, which doesn't count).
You do realize that even if you flag h/h away, they still lower the chances of you getting a drop.
Proof that they do or don't please.
The purpose of boss farming in HM is to do without having ANYONE in your party and do it sololy.
Says who? You? Well, enjoy you're qqing while I learned to flag my henchmen away and get my elite tomes and greens.
Honestly, I can't think of a build that can farm raptors sololy across from the perma SF (oh yea, the W/N have a hero involved in it, which doesn't count)
Sucks then, wait for the next gimmick to come along or learn to use henchmen.
There's plenty of 55 builds to kill bosses, plenty of "walling" or standing behind a wall while a boss wails on nothing, a spiriter can take down a LARGE amount solo. Normal dolyak warriors can kill bosses, I mean srsly, gtfo.
Kerwyn Nasilan
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
You do realize that even if you flag h/h away, they still lower the chances of you getting a drop.
I would like you to find any proof of this.
This is the same guy who said HM dungeons where impossible because he could no do it with Discord. If you really want to farm a boss it still is very much possible, just try looking beyond the pvxwiki "great" sections.
This is the same guy who said HM dungeons where impossible because he could no do it with Discord. If you really want to farm a boss it still is very much possible, just try looking beyond the pvxwiki "great" sections.
dasmitchies
lol sf isnt nerfed its changed. try harder cry less
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one more thing I figured I'd add...since you where the one to bring up raptors...
Even mesmers can farm raptors
I always loved this guys staff...until I noticed staffs suck...
and for all those necros out there looking for some elite tomes...maybe this still works...
While we're on the topic of terrain glitches...
Some of these I'm sure are out of date but I'm sure taking a quick look they'll be easy to spot...
Even mesmers can farm raptors
I always loved this guys staff...until I noticed staffs suck...
and for all those necros out there looking for some elite tomes...maybe this still works...
While we're on the topic of terrain glitches...
Some of these I'm sure are out of date but I'm sure taking a quick look they'll be easy to spot...
CronkTheImpaler
I forgot about that build END. aside from the ones mentioned, i have tried 3 different ele builds that work killin baby lizards. (field Tested)
This is gettin kinda easy findin builds to whack those IMPOSSIBLE boss's lmao.
Cronk
This is gettin kinda easy findin builds to whack those IMPOSSIBLE boss's lmao.
Cronk
Rick Thene
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Boss farming in HM is impossible, it can't be done.
Good.
HM Farming is retarded.
HM Farming is retarded.
Improvavel
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
You do realize that even if you flag h/h away, they still lower the chances of you getting a drop.
This isn't correct.
Greyed out party members can't get drops (although they can still get money) - they are equivalent to non-existent party members.
Non-existent party members still take loot - read loot scaling http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Loot_scaling .
Green items are exempt from loot scaling.
Greyed out party members can't get drops (although they can still get money) - they are equivalent to non-existent party members.
Non-existent party members still take loot - read loot scaling http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Loot_scaling .
Green items are exempt from loot scaling.
Default137
Still possible to farm Raptors ( albeit slowly, although this could be because I'm to lazy to actually inscribe/rune my gear ) as a Spirit/Channeling Rit in HM. Actually if I wanted to be cruel, I'd point out it got quite a bit easier for me to farm bosses in HM now with the Rit update.
*edit* Just tested with my Dervish, he can farm Raptors in HM to.
Try thinking outside the box a bit perhaps? PvXwiki is not the answer to all life's problems
*edit* Just tested with my Dervish, he can farm Raptors in HM to.
Try thinking outside the box a bit perhaps? PvXwiki is not the answer to all life's problems
Mortal Showdown
55 Sv kills bosses fast and effectively, once you get the hang of it.
Age
You don't need to be in HM to get greens I got my zealous daggers in NM same with some others greens.You are forgetting about the 600 solo SB Monk and the 55 can still do it.Don't forget about N/Mo 55.
To the End I was going to mention Mesmers.
You just think the A/E was the only profession that could farm effectively.There lots of other that can do this.
To the End I was going to mention Mesmers.
You just think the A/E was the only profession that could farm effectively.There lots of other that can do this.
Age
Why not just do the daily quest to get elite tomes?I would mind knowing that Sin non perma build you use.
Rocky Rockstar
-I can farm 90% of the bosses in GW with a W/N Grenth's Balance in HM....
-You can do raptor farming with W/N without hero.
-Grayed out hero/henchmen does not recieve tomes/elites/greenies.
-You are a 'stereotypical shadow former', not know how to play the game, all you know is pressing 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 and killing things.
- SF isnt nerfed, you can still use it, it just requires more skill.
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
-You can do raptor farming with W/N without hero.
-Grayed out hero/henchmen does not recieve tomes/elites/greenies.
-You are a 'stereotypical shadow former', not know how to play the game, all you know is pressing 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 and killing things.
- SF isnt nerfed, you can still use it, it just requires more skill.
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Anyways, TLDR: Boss farming in HM is impossible, it can't be done. And I'll make a Youtube video to prove it.
- You are an idiot. This would only prove that YOU can't do it.
Bloody Dominator
Lame joke incoming:
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Originally Posted by Tresa
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If not: Oh, hon, you need a nap.
A perma-nap? 
And yeah u can still farm with 130 derv, 55 necro, 330 rit and theres more.
And yeah u can still farm with 130 derv, 55 necro, 330 rit and theres more.
Sethellington
Well I just did some solo farming bosses with my Nec. Still works. Just because you can't do it on your sin, doesn't mean no one can do it on any profession. Close thread now that the question's been answered?
QQ
BrettM
Why does OP have such a fixation on Woespreaders for discord heroes? The discord N/Rts (healer and curser) should both be carrying PwK most of the time, so it doesn't matter WHAT weapon they're carrying. The N/Mo minion bomber should be equipped with a 40/40 death set -- a Woespreader is just sub-optimal.
Even if none of the above were true, there are plenty of crafted weapons, some with very nice skins, that can be modded with the exact same stats as a Woespreader. My ele's necros are all equipped with crafted Deldrimor weapons. The necros for other characters are equipped with BMP weapons, Asuran weapons, or Norn weapons. It's all good.
But none of them use anything with stats like a Woespreader. The N/Rt healer carries a soul-reaping staff, because sometimes I need to use her as either a regular N/Rt healer or as a blood necro. The discord curser carries a curses staff, because sometimes I need to use him with a non-discord curses build (SS or SV usually).
Even if none of the above were true, there are plenty of crafted weapons, some with very nice skins, that can be modded with the exact same stats as a Woespreader. My ele's necros are all equipped with crafted Deldrimor weapons. The necros for other characters are equipped with BMP weapons, Asuran weapons, or Norn weapons. It's all good.
But none of them use anything with stats like a Woespreader. The N/Rt healer carries a soul-reaping staff, because sometimes I need to use her as either a regular N/Rt healer or as a blood necro. The discord curser carries a curses staff, because sometimes I need to use him with a non-discord curses build (SS or SV usually).
Brute of Balthazar
I assume this guy is trolling, I can't imagine (from his inability to spell most words right or use grammar) that he is "joking" nor can he claim ignorance of the issue; due to him spamming such dribble all over the riverside inn threads and being rightly told that he's chatting shite. Can this thread be closed as it's a waste of time and frankly untrue. Greens can be farmed if you so desire.
MacStorm
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
The purpose of boss farming in HM is to do without having ANYONE in your party and do it sololy. Honestly, I can't think of a build that can farm raptors sololy across from the perma SF (oh yea, the W/N have a hero involved in it, which doesn't count).
lol, the E/me can do it easy!
lol, the E/me can do it easy!
The Drunkard
Why did you post this comment AGAIN from the 2/25/2010 update thread? Plenty of people (myself included) gave alternatives to boss farming that doesn't include permaform.
Spiritz
hmm lets see , 55 mo/n n/mo and sos spammer can still farm the monk boss outside blacktide den , my rit can also farm 3 bosses in arbortone err i cba to carry on but it would seem some of us may be playing a different version of guildwars where bosses can be farmed .
Oh how did we cope a few years ago with totally nerfed sf - impossible to keep it up for more than around 16 secs ?
Oh how did we cope a few years ago with totally nerfed sf - impossible to keep it up for more than around 16 secs ?
sthpaw
wow just wow are people that terrible?
man it looks like the nerf wasnt even a nerf, doasc and fowsc is still around builds are slightly modified can still be done and you complaining about farming bosses in HM.
im pretty annoyed anet did do a proper job nerfing it and it took them what 5 months.
man it looks like the nerf wasnt even a nerf, doasc and fowsc is still around builds are slightly modified can still be done and you complaining about farming bosses in HM.
im pretty annoyed anet did do a proper job nerfing it and it took them what 5 months.
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Dark Paladin X
Okay, as promised, here is a Youtube video I made to prove that boss farming in HM is impossible:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_PxTCMZAZQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_PxTCMZAZQ
Sir Tieger
Wow....you're kidding right?
Only thing that video "proves" is you're too retarded to come up with a new build. And are crying over the fact that now you have to wait for someone to put a new one on pvx.
Only thing that video "proves" is you're too retarded to come up with a new build. And are crying over the fact that now you have to wait for someone to put a new one on pvx.
End
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Okay, as promised, here is a Youtube video I made to prove that boss farming in HM is impossible:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_PxTCMZAZQ see thats the wonderful thing about this...you proved you are even more of an idiot by only using perma builds
now then you seem to have this raptor fetish...sooo I didn't bother with making this good just killing the boss...
http://www.xfire.com/video/23391a/
Note: I'm lazy here and not even using the right equipment...
tyvm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_PxTCMZAZQ see thats the wonderful thing about this...you proved you are even more of an idiot by only using perma builds
now then you seem to have this raptor fetish...sooo I didn't bother with making this good just killing the boss...
http://www.xfire.com/video/23391a/
Note: I'm lazy here and not even using the right equipment...
tyvm...
Marty Silverblade
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Okay, as promised, here is a Youtube video I made to prove that boss farming in HM is impossible:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_PxTCMZAZQ You've proved you can't use the nerfed build exactly as you used to. Newsflash: perma wasn't the only build that worked, and the update didn't nerf every single farm build in existance.
Since you're going to be stubborn and single minded, I really don't see this thread going anywhere.
Closed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_PxTCMZAZQ You've proved you can't use the nerfed build exactly as you used to. Newsflash: perma wasn't the only build that worked, and the update didn't nerf every single farm build in existance.
Since you're going to be stubborn and single minded, I really don't see this thread going anywhere.
Closed.