A/E Chaos Plains Redux
Ungle
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Originally Posted by olololo

Could anybody post a screenshot of a map with the ruote to the bone pits.

Here ya go.

Here ya go.
BadgerzFTW
Rofl. I'll probably try this once I reinstall GW. What are average times using heroes at the beginning?
Osprey3
Build works just fine. I personally used fire attunement and my trusty scythe. First run got 6 ectos. GG.
Zapper901
I loved doing the A/E Plains farm before the first nerf to SF (when it had no damage reduction), can't wait to try this out.
FengShuiDove
Heh, I love the complaints from the people who clearly never did one of the pre-SF ecto farms.
Build works well. It's not the fastest thing ever, but it really is kind of fun. Will be doing it a bit more often.
Build works well. It's not the fastest thing ever, but it really is kind of fun. Will be doing it a bit more often.
FoxBat
I don't have anything against posting builds for sin lovers, but in the wake of nerf we should continue working on figuring out the "best" build. In that vein - can't the obvious Obs Flesh ele variant with /me emanage do this a lot better?
BlueXIV
I have no idea if this is the fastest or not, I'm just saying it works, and it's really really really easy to do xD.
But if you do want to try an obby flesh ele, I'm sure it'll work, and maybe be faster than the sin. Who knows? maybe it'll be better? nothing is set in stone right now so feel free to test it all out.
I'm thinking GoS/OF/Mantra of Earth/Stone striker/A bunch of fire skills since you have the atts? Or maybe even /D and use a scythe xD
But if you do want to try an obby flesh ele, I'm sure it'll work, and maybe be faster than the sin. Who knows? maybe it'll be better? nothing is set in stone right now so feel free to test it all out.
I'm thinking GoS/OF/Mantra of Earth/Stone striker/A bunch of fire skills since you have the atts? Or maybe even /D and use a scythe xD
Invalid Shadow
Ok, nice attempt and not bad for those dying to cling on to SF, but spirit spammer makes things a lot easier and possible to farm more areas, even after adjustment to SoS. Guess this will be used and improved, so good luck all...
Ungle
Problem with OF is that you can't attack. So bassically you need aggro to beable to maintain energy, and that being through either mantra of earth+stone striker or Essence/Balth Spirit. And so your succeptible to interrupts aka no mantra of resolve which is kinda needed for OF.
Just my thoughts
Just my thoughts
Deatgs Corrupter
good thoughts.
if you want to some team work in uw bring a couple friends; nuker healer an SoS we all got 6-8 ectos after clearing pits,planes pools, and smites took 1 hour and a bit was very slow but very fun.
fastes I can solo is about 28mins.
if you want to some team work in uw bring a couple friends; nuker healer an SoS we all got 6-8 ectos after clearing pits,planes pools, and smites took 1 hour and a bit was very slow but very fun.
fastes I can solo is about 28mins.
FengShuiDove
A/Rt with Destruction actually works pretty well, especially in Chamber. Getting out was much faster. Plains is still a bit slow, but here's the build I tried. If nothing else, it's a bit more unique and it works.
1. Deadly Paradox
2. Shadow Form
3. Shroud of Distress
4. Splinter Weapon
5. Nightmare Weapon (for finishing the last of a group)
6. Destruction
7. Unseen Fury
8. Dash
Very easy, if slow, run. But the concept is there. Spread damage from Splinter, 150 armor ignoring damage from Destruction every 20 seconds, and Nightmare Weapon to essentially bypass the 26 damage limit.
1. Deadly Paradox
2. Shadow Form
3. Shroud of Distress
4. Splinter Weapon
5. Nightmare Weapon (for finishing the last of a group)
6. Destruction
7. Unseen Fury
8. Dash
Very easy, if slow, run. But the concept is there. Spread damage from Splinter, 150 armor ignoring damage from Destruction every 20 seconds, and Nightmare Weapon to essentially bypass the 26 damage limit.
Xiner
Can somebody please post a video with this. I am really a noob into the UW (don't blame me xD) and I only farmed there with an SoS rit for ecto's at the start and chamber. Is this Chaos Plains farm more effective? How much ecto's does it give on an average run? Just curious ^^
I'd really like to try this, but I don't know anything of the way and how and what. So a video would help me a billion times! =]
I heard quite some things about the original version of this build, so I'd love to try out this one.
I'd really like to try this, but I don't know anything of the way and how and what. So a video would help me a billion times! =]
I heard quite some things about the original version of this build, so I'd love to try out this one.

Renai
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Originally Posted by Xiner

Can somebody please post a video with this. I am really a noob into the UW (don't blame me xD) and I only farmed there with an SoS rit for ecto's at the start and chamber. Is this Chaos Plains farm more effective? How much ecto's does it give on an average run? Just curious ^^
I'd really like to try this, but I don't know anything of the way and how and what. So a video would help me a billion times! =]
I heard quite some things about the original version of this build, so I'd love to try out this one.
why not just look on youtube? theres plenty of videos of the old build its only same run = _ =
I'd really like to try this, but I don't know anything of the way and how and what. So a video would help me a billion times! =]
I heard quite some things about the original version of this build, so I'd love to try out this one.

why not just look on youtube? theres plenty of videos of the old build its only same run = _ =
Spiritz
For those who wonder about chaos plains and ectos - i believe if you can find out the total number of mindblades that spawn there ( think over 100 and was mentioned somewhere in a diff post a while ago ) its the one area with the highest chance of ecto drops but only due to high number of ecto foes.
Also which i find amusing - smites who are the most popular quick solo farm ( or was pre nerf ) have a lower drop rate than aatxes .
Also which i find amusing - smites who are the most popular quick solo farm ( or was pre nerf ) have a lower drop rate than aatxes .
FengShuiDove
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Originally Posted by Spiritz

Also which i find amusing - smites who are the most popular quick solo farm ( or was pre nerf ) have a lower drop rate than aatxes .
Which is why before Shadow Form was "discovered" I solo'd the Chamber and Unwanted Guests for all of my earthly riches
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Lukyboy
I used this build for the first time today. It is super easy. Used heroes to clear the way to the mountains. Zealous scythe for energy is (more than) enough. I had alot of scatter though, but some of it was because I didn't have the mindblades balled right.
It's quite slow, but certainly do-able. It took me an hour to clear the plains (skipping all the groups with skeletons near them). I was takin it slow, and didn't do the balling up right most of the time.
I got 7 ecto's though
It's quite slow, but certainly do-able. It took me an hour to clear the plains (skipping all the groups with skeletons near them). I was takin it slow, and didn't do the balling up right most of the time.
I got 7 ecto's though

Life Bringing
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Originally Posted by Lukyboy

I used this build for the first time today. It is super easy. Used heroes to clear the way to the mountains. Zealous scythe for energy is (more than) enough. I had alot of scatter though, but some of it was because I didn't have the mindblades balled right.
It's quite slow, but certainly do-able. It took me an hour to clear the plains (skipping all the groups with skeletons near them). I was takin it slow, and didn't do the balling up right most of the time.
I got 7 ecto's though
You can speed it up by dropping nukes repeatedly. Sit on your scythe and spam on recharge. Fire attune in optional is good. Don't worry about trying to prevent scatter, just reball them along an edge once they do break.
It's quite slow, but certainly do-able. It took me an hour to clear the plains (skipping all the groups with skeletons near them). I was takin it slow, and didn't do the balling up right most of the time.
I got 7 ecto's though

Y0ggi
A tutorial on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2MhGPqgXPo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2MhGPqgXPo
Ungle
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Originally Posted by Y0ggi

A tutorial on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2MhGPqgXPo Nice. Might wanna give credit where its due. But otherwise Nice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2MhGPqgXPo Nice. Might wanna give credit where its due. But otherwise Nice
FyrFytr998
Great video. Well detailed.
Y0ggi
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Originally Posted by ungle2

Nice. Might wanna give credit where its due. But otherwise Nice
Yea, as the description says; more info will be coming up. I just uploaded this like 01 AM so i needed to sleep, and i didn't have time for everything in the vid.
Ungle

Meh I was bored. I cleared it out afterwards, my screenie button wasn't working anymore
Huiboo
I think Firestorm and Snow Storm are basically wasted skillslots - Lava font does the maximum damage (26) and can pretty much be kept up.
Id rather bring "BUH!" (it can raise the damage to 32) or Fire Attunement for more spamming or even sliver armor to kill the dreamiders faster and to kill off survivors or the hole group when their at low HP (when fighting more than like 8 foes sliver armor has a higher DPS than lava font would do to 8 foes).
What i do is i kill the first rider and than pull the spawning ghosts to the secound one to kill him with sliver pretty fast.
Than i kill both groups and the followers and go on to the next 2 dreamriders.
Id rather bring "BUH!" (it can raise the damage to 32) or Fire Attunement for more spamming or even sliver armor to kill the dreamiders faster and to kill off survivors or the hole group when their at low HP (when fighting more than like 8 foes sliver armor has a higher DPS than lava font would do to 8 foes).
What i do is i kill the first rider and than pull the spawning ghosts to the secound one to kill him with sliver pretty fast.
Than i kill both groups and the followers and go on to the next 2 dreamriders.
Y0ggi
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Originally Posted by Huiboo

I think Firestorm and Snow Storm are basically wasted skillslots - Lava font does the maximum damage (26) and can pretty much be kept up.
Id rather bring "BUH!" (it can raise the damage to 32) or Fire Attunement for more spamming or even sliver armor to kill the dreamiders faster and to kill off survivors or the hole group when their at low HP (when fighting more than like 8 foes sliver armor has a higher DPS than lava font would do to 8 foes).
What i do is i kill the first rider and than pull the spawning ghosts to the secound one to kill him with sliver pretty fast.
Than i kill both groups and the followers and go on to the next 2 dreamriders. Just a question, how can you raise the damage to 32 when you have SF up...? :S
Id rather bring "BUH!" (it can raise the damage to 32) or Fire Attunement for more spamming or even sliver armor to kill the dreamiders faster and to kill off survivors or the hole group when their at low HP (when fighting more than like 8 foes sliver armor has a higher DPS than lava font would do to 8 foes).
What i do is i kill the first rider and than pull the spawning ghosts to the secound one to kill him with sliver pretty fast.
Than i kill both groups and the followers and go on to the next 2 dreamriders. Just a question, how can you raise the damage to 32 when you have SF up...? :S
Ungle
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Originally Posted by Y0ggi

Just a question, how can you raise the damage to 32 when you have SF up...? :S
Ill answer since im bored.
Bassically BuH and Intensity both Boost the damage already done, so if your doing say 25 damage, and your SF is limited it at that, then BuH will add 25% of 25 to that number. It adds it after the SF thing takes effect, so urals and intensity will both take it over the limit
Bassically BuH and Intensity both Boost the damage already done, so if your doing say 25 damage, and your SF is limited it at that, then BuH will add 25% of 25 to that number. It adds it after the SF thing takes effect, so urals and intensity will both take it over the limit
Elite Bushido
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Originally Posted by Huiboo

I think Firestorm and Snow Storm are basically wasted skillslots - Lava font does the maximum damage (26) and can pretty much be kept up.
Id rather bring "BUH!" (it can raise the damage to 32) or Fire Attunement for more spamming or even sliver armor to kill the dreamiders faster and to kill off survivors or the hole group when their at low HP (when fighting more than like 8 foes sliver armor has a higher DPS than lava font would do to 8 foes).
What i do is i kill the first rider and than pull the spawning ghosts to the secound one to kill him with sliver pretty fast.
Than i kill both groups and the followers and go on to the next 2 dreamriders. yea but using more skills means more dmg
Id rather bring "BUH!" (it can raise the damage to 32) or Fire Attunement for more spamming or even sliver armor to kill the dreamiders faster and to kill off survivors or the hole group when their at low HP (when fighting more than like 8 foes sliver armor has a higher DPS than lava font would do to 8 foes).
What i do is i kill the first rider and than pull the spawning ghosts to the secound one to kill him with sliver pretty fast.
Than i kill both groups and the followers and go on to the next 2 dreamriders. yea but using more skills means more dmg
Zeff Nut
Watched the video and I want to try this now that they nerfed my 600, will this be doable as an Ele/A? I never did make an assassin but since they don't seem to want to do away with the skill may as well jump on the bandwagon.
Ungle
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Originally Posted by Zeff Nut

Watched the video and I want to try this now that they nerfed my 600, will this be doable as an Ele/A? I never did make an assassin but since they don't seem to want to do away with the skill may as well jump on the bandwagon.
I [Think] You need Deadly Paradox instead of Glyph of Swiftness, but other then that, yes, it should work
Huiboo
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Originally Posted by Elite Bushido

yea but using more skills means more dmg
If you had read my post carefully you should know that it doesnt.
You can eighter do 26 dmg ech secound with just lava font or do the same thing with 3 skills wasting 2 slots.
Read lava fonts skill description it has a recarge of 4 so it can be pretty much kept up.
And yes this can be done as E/A - you do less dmg, need more energie (deadly paradoxon instead of GoS) and have less armor but it should work.
If you had read my post carefully you should know that it doesnt.
You can eighter do 26 dmg ech secound with just lava font or do the same thing with 3 skills wasting 2 slots.
Read lava fonts skill description it has a recarge of 4 so it can be pretty much kept up.
And yes this can be done as E/A - you do less dmg, need more energie (deadly paradoxon instead of GoS) and have less armor but it should work.
own age myname
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Originally Posted by Zeff Nut

Watched the video and I want to try this now that they nerfed my 600, will this be doable as an Ele/A? I never did make an assassin but since they don't seem to want to do away with the skill may as well jump on the bandwagon.
Yes it probably would work. If anything you could try obby flesh (e/me for channeling)?
chessyang
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Originally Posted by ungle2

Ill answer since im bored.
Bassically BuH and Intensity both Boost the damage already done, so if your doing say 25 damage, and your SF is limited it at that, then BuH will add 25% of 25 to that number. It adds it after the SF thing takes effect, so urals and intensity will both take it over the limit ya i was thinking the same thing but for 10 seconds. then a 30 rechange is it worth it? i guess for that extra skill slot i guess so. i don't notice it i guess.
Bassically BuH and Intensity both Boost the damage already done, so if your doing say 25 damage, and your SF is limited it at that, then BuH will add 25% of 25 to that number. It adds it after the SF thing takes effect, so urals and intensity will both take it over the limit ya i was thinking the same thing but for 10 seconds. then a 30 rechange is it worth it? i guess for that extra skill slot i guess so. i don't notice it i guess.
Huiboo
I think there is no other way getting the damage over 26 a secound other than BUH! so i guess its worth it.
Or can anybody think of a possibility getting some dereg on thouse guys (keeping lava font)?
Or can anybody think of a possibility getting some dereg on thouse guys (keeping lava font)?
Ungle
So bassically BuH might be viable simply because you can easily drop your health below 50% for a few seconds to get the double length effect, making it 20 seconds. Ill try it out later
Elite Bushido
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Originally Posted by Huiboo

If you had read my post carefully you should know that it doesnt.
You can eighter do 26 dmg ech secound with just lava font or do the same thing with 3 skills wasting 2 slots.
Read lava fonts skill description it has a recarge of 4 so it can be pretty much kept up.
And yes this can be done as E/A - you do less dmg, need more energie (deadly paradoxon instead of GoS) and have less armor but it should work. and then add another skill on top of that and what happens
You can eighter do 26 dmg ech secound with just lava font or do the same thing with 3 skills wasting 2 slots.
Read lava fonts skill description it has a recarge of 4 so it can be pretty much kept up.
And yes this can be done as E/A - you do less dmg, need more energie (deadly paradoxon instead of GoS) and have less armor but it should work. and then add another skill on top of that and what happens
Ungle

So Yea. To all of those who did ask, Obsi flesh works. I didn't use anything going through mnts, and I used a bluerock, but it wasnt that hard. Gotta watch SFA or youll go boom
Special Thanks to Hooded for helping out
Refar
Could someone suggest better Heroes for that ? The ones seen in the video (Protective Bond/Roj Monk, SoS, SS Necro) do not work too good for me for some reason

Elite Bushido
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Originally Posted by Refar

Could someone suggest better Heroes for that ? The ones seen in the video (Protective Bond/Roj Monk, SoS, SS Necro) do not work too good for me for some reason
give them a sup rune for w/e main stat?

Risus
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Originally Posted by Refar

Could someone suggest better Heroes for that ? The ones seen in the video (Protective Bond/Roj Monk, SoS, SS Necro) do not work too good for me for some reason
Use a Protective Bond/Shield of Judgement monk. I use Protective Bond, Essence Bond, Shield of Judgement, Auspicious Incantation (before SoJ), Blessed Signet, Signet of Devotion.
Then use either an Echo SS necro + a rit or
2 rits with DwG, Spirit Rift, and Ancestor's Rage. Keep an eye on your monk's energy and when it gets close to 0 use Unseen Fury so you can do max damage with SoJ.

Then use either an Echo SS necro + a rit or
2 rits with DwG, Spirit Rift, and Ancestor's Rage. Keep an eye on your monk's energy and when it gets close to 0 use Unseen Fury so you can do max damage with SoJ.
Life Bringing
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Originally Posted by Huiboo

If you had read my post carefully you should know that it doesnt.
You can eighter do 26 dmg ech secound with just lava font or do the same thing with 3 skills wasting 2 slots.
Read lava fonts skill description it has a recarge of 4 so it can be pretty much kept up.
And yes this can be done as E/A - you do less dmg, need more energie (deadly paradoxon instead of GoS) and have less armor but it should work. Or you could, y'know, drop all three nukes at once, resulting in more damage.
You can eighter do 26 dmg ech secound with just lava font or do the same thing with 3 skills wasting 2 slots.
Read lava fonts skill description it has a recarge of 4 so it can be pretty much kept up.
And yes this can be done as E/A - you do less dmg, need more energie (deadly paradoxon instead of GoS) and have less armor but it should work. Or you could, y'know, drop all three nukes at once, resulting in more damage.
lukzah
Sorry for this newb question i play gw more than a year but i never farmed ectos. So im asking if any1 can ping me map with route on cuz i always see skeles everywhere. So tnx