Ritual lord maths - big investments for big gains?

Short summation: potential of Ritual lord, Shelter, Union, Armor of unfeeling and Summon spirits skill.

I did some quick maths, and maybe this Ritual lord business could be a replacement for the Imbagon. Provided there's an appropriate supply of energy available...

PLEASE CHECK MY MATHS! I can't test this at work...

OK, so, Ritual lord now offers a boost of 4 to all Rt attributes. This actually has to be taken into effect since it boosts the spirits created significantly, since it boosts both spawning power and the spirit's attribute.

Situation 1 - unenhanced : 12 spawning, 12 communing (attributes easily achieved).

Shelter: 296 health, lose 51 health per ability activation, 26 with Armor of Unfeeling. 6/12 uses by my maths.

Union: 296 health, lose 15 health per ability activation, 8 with Armor of Unfeeling, 19/37 uses


However, with Ritual lord active, spirits go quite a bit up. Attributes are 16 now for both Spawning and Communing, making spirit level 13 and adding more health:

Shelter: 426 health, lose 43 health per ability activation, 22 with Armor of Unfeeling. 10/20 uses.

Union: 426 health, lose 15 health per ability activation, 8 with Armor of Unfeeling, 29/54 uses


Not so much of an effect. But if we go all out and use two superior runes... We get attributes of one 20 (headpiece) and one 19 (second rune). Putting the headpiece into commining, the maths should go:

Shelter: 563 health, lose 35 health per ability activation, 18 with Armor of Unfeeling. 16/32 uses.

Union: 563 health, lose 15 health per ability activation, 8 with Armor of Unfeeling, 37/71 uses (=1065 damage prevented with AoU)



Now, with Summon spirit, we can provide the spirits with say 81 health every 5 seconds. That's 5 shelters and 11 unions per 5 seconds, with a substantial buffer to cast them in, so maybe some healing can actually be done. All we need is the energy to fuel this thirsty machine. So, could it be enough to be worth it?



P.S. Soul twisting's numbers should be approximately at the second situation. Energy is no longer an issue, and spirits recharge instantly, but these are 5 second cast spirits and ritual lord's effects are roughly half higher.

From what i read, this has some potential.. Need to test it on My rit when i come home..
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I wouldnt spend 150 health on sup runes.. if you just use minor runes you should still get 18 in one and 17 in the other

Well, the idea is that you're under the effects of Shelter and Union all/most of the time, so low health is supposed to be good

Rt Lord works as replacement for Imbagon. Our guild has tested as part of DoA HM Balanced group. I was not part of the group; however, I will probably continue refinement of the Rt build. They achieved 15min Gloom so I was told.

Armour of unfeeling doesn't affect shelter as shelter "loses life" and doesn't take damage each time it triggers. Although armour of unfeeling does affect union and displacement.

Another point to mention is that they all affect minions which means they are often wasted.

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Of course, good ideas pop up only at 1AM...

A good way to test it would be to use union, which always loses 15 health per activation, and see how many activations it survives. I tried yesterday (OK, today...) and I think I got more hits with enhanced union, 20 vs 24, but since I didn't bring additional healing, I got killed early. Didn't have time to test again, plan to do so in the afternoon.

Anyway, one thing soul twisting may have as an advantage is that it should be hero proof, which ritual lord certainly isn't at the moment...

Rit Lord DOES increase all of your attributes
evidence look into your attribute window whilst you cast RL and notice that ALL your rit attributes are increased:

Before RL:

before RL
comm: 13
spawn: 16

After RL has been cast and before the next skill:

After RL
comm: 17
chan: 4
resto: 4
spawn: 20

So the spirits are summoned at 17 comm and 20 SP