Inflation or gouging?

Essence Snow

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Ok so here's a question I just wanted to gather some opinions on inflated prices.

I went to go sell some Deldrimore armor remnants in Kamadan and noticed 2 other ppl selling them 45 and 50k each respectively. Now I had been accustomed to selling them at 12k per. Are the prices I saw due to inflation or gouging? Is it acceptable to sell at such a high price?

Just wondering...Thanks

PowerRAV

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what you call "gouging" others call powertrading.

Darcy

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There is no rule on selling prices. A player can ask any price he wishes for items. It doesn't mean he will actually sell any at that price. Many people think that the demise of 600/smite teams has sent the price of any EotN item through the roof. I have seen people asking 10k for a Golden Rin Relic.

You, personally, should set your prices at a level where you feel you are making the profit you want. With any rare material, check the NPC and be sure to "Request Quote" as quite often the listed price will change.

Shadow Feathers

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Watch the flames begin but I feel nothing in the damn game is worth over a 100 K and honestly some of the things people pay over a 100 K for are simply BUTT UGLY, it's more of a " look at me thing ".

Darcy answered your question the best I think. Sell the items for what you think is fair and be happy with that. I honestly get a kick out of seeing " PC on blah blah " while I'm sitting in town. I wouldn't trust some of those answers I've seen and most ppl since they don't now seem to take a lot of those responses as the gospel.

Narcosese

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As previously said its up to you how much you want to put on an item you have for sale but obviously you dont want to spend hours standing around as thats counter produtive if your interested in raising funds.

The thing with Deldrimor remnants is that now SF is not the dungeon slayer it used to be, its going to be a great deal harder to aquire them from Duncan than it was b4!

So im not suprised to see the price increase a fair bit, given a little time and some new builds it may well drop again soon....

Phaern Majes

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Watch the flames begin but I feel nothing in the damn game is worth over a 100 K
agreed + 12 chars

Winterclaw

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Originally Posted by Shadow Feathers View Post
Watch the flames begin but I feel nothing in the damn game is worth over 100K and honestly some of the things people pay over 100K for are simply BUTT UGLY, it's more of a " look at me thing ".
With the exception of a few rare minis I tend to agree with you.

Iuris

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Given that a friend and me did the whole Slaver's exile after the last update and it's still doable, I don't think a price increase is warranted. So, probably the people just overpriced their offers and there is no actual reason for all prices to rise.

AngelWJedi

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Originally Posted by Shadow Feathers View Post
Watch the flames begin but I feel nothing in the damn game is worth over a 100 K and honestly some of the things people pay over a 100 K for are simply BUTT UGLY, it's more of a " look at me thing ".

Darcy answered your question the best I think. Sell the items for what you think is fair and be happy with that. I honestly get a kick out of seeing " PC on blah blah " while I'm sitting in town. I wouldn't trust some of those answers I've seen and most ppl since they don't now seem to take a lot of those responses as the gospel.
Have to disagree with you on this. Not all high end weapons/minis/tonics/extra where but ugly. Things like Torm weapons i can understand being over 100k+ since they take forever to make. Or minis like mini smite since its a rare drop in uw.

Yelling @ Cats

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Originally Posted by PowerRAV View Post
what you call "gouging" others call powertrading.
what you call powertrading is what i call scamming

jazilla

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This is the same for con sets as well. Feathers have gone dramatically down in price and yet Essences are selling for more money now. I guess everyone got their high school diploma without having to take a basic Econ. class.

Yelling @ Cats

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Have to disagree with you on this. Not all high end weapons/minis/tonics/extra where but ugly. Things like Torm weapons i can understand being over 100k+ since they take forever to make. Or minis like mini smite since its a rare drop in uw.
This is something I don't understand with people.

Why should something be more expensive since it is rare, if the item itself has little value?

A lot of the super rare "omgimapayectostacks" type of weapons look like ass. If they dropped as much as other things, you wouldn't even be able to GIVE them away, let alone sell them.

But since they are rare, people pay 5 ecto stacks. Makes no f*cking sense to me.

Tramp

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I tried to sell my deld remnant I found in storage last night for 12k...no buyers. Figures...

Shut A You Face

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Milwaukee

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Yelling @ Cats...
It's called the Free Market System. You should try it some time.

Orry

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This is something I don't understand with people.

Why should something be more expensive since it is rare, if the item itself has little value?

A lot of the super rare "omgimapayectostacks" type of weapons look like ass. If they dropped as much as other things, you wouldn't even be able to GIVE them away, let alone sell them.

But since they are rare, people pay 5 ecto stacks. Makes no f*cking sense to me.
The most expensive weapon in the game prior to eotn's release(Stygian Reaver) actually looks quite nice, it's worth nowhere near as much now though because after eotn was released it drops in more places than the HoH chest.

Voodoo Rage

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I was probably a scam. I'll bet there was someone in another district spamming that they wanted to buy one for 70k....

Yelling @ Cats

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Originally Posted by Orry View Post
The most expensive weapon in the game prior to eotn's release(Stygian Reaver) actually looks quite nice, it's worth nowhere near as much now though because after eotn was released it drops in more places than the HoH chest.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Crystalline_Sword

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Yelling @ Cats...
It's called the Free Market System. You should try it some time.
Ah, yes...the free market system, where selling something for 5 times what it is worth to people who don't know any better is acceptable.

Shut A You Face

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Milwaukee

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@ Cats
Well that's the beauty of Capitalism. If someone is trying to sell for too much money, they don't sell anything. An items value is a 2 way street. Now quit your QQ comrad.


And it seems like your yet again, another person that wants these kind of items but doesn't want to put the time into...a) Doing the mission or b) Farming for the money to pay for said items.

ShadowsRequiem

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http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Crystalline_Sword



Ah, yes...the free market system, where selling something for 5 times what it is worth to people who don't know any better is acceptable.
It's the responsibility of the buyer to try to find out how much things are worth. I'm not sure anyone buying hero armors is going to actually pay 50k for those...

Del

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
Ok so here's a question I just wanted to gather some opinions on inflated prices.

I went to go sell some Deldrimore armor remnants in Kamadan and noticed 2 other ppl selling them 45 and 50k each respectively. Now I had been accustomed to selling them at 12k per. Are the prices I saw due to inflation or gouging? Is it acceptable to sell at such a high price?

Just wondering...Thanks
serious gauging.

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Originally Posted by Shadow Feathers View Post
Watch the flames begin but I feel nothing in the damn game is worth over a 100 K and honestly some of the things people pay over a 100 K for are simply BUTT UGLY, it's more of a " look at me thing ".

Darcy answered your question the best I think. Sell the items for what you think is fair and be happy with that. I honestly get a kick out of seeing " PC on blah blah " while I'm sitting in town. I wouldn't trust some of those answers I've seen and most ppl since they don't now seem to take a lot of those responses as the gospel.
true, but epeen. without falsified value how would someone try to pretend to be superior to someone else?

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Originally Posted by Yelling @ Cats View Post
what you call powertrading is what i call scamming
quite true sir.


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Originally Posted by Shut A You Face View Post
Yelling @ Cats...
It's called the Free Market System. You should try it some time.
y'know, when i'm trying to sell something for a fair and decent price, and i get some powertrader pming me offering half just so they can go and sell for more just for profit, that is what i call faggotry

Yelling @ Cats

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Join Date: Jun 2009

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Originally Posted by Shut A You Face View Post
@ Cats
Well that's the beauty of Capitalism. If someone is trying to sell for too much money, they don't sell anything. An items value is a 2 way street. Now quit your QQ comrad.

And it seems like your yet again, another person that wants these kind of items but doesn't want to put the time into...a) Doing the mission or b) Farming for the money to pay for said items.
Wait...I'm confused, is the second part of that directed at me? LOL

Regards the first part of your post, you are absolutely right. "Businessmen" make loads of money by taking advantage of people. That doesn't mean it's "right"...

I do enjoy the insult though, keep it up.

JimmyNeutron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Supply and demand. Slaver's Exile Dungeon isn't runnable anymore due to Spirits of Disenchantment stripping SF and any other enchantments. Once the enchantment is stripped, SF, Obby, Spell Breaker, the Restless Deads use their elite Shadow Prison to cripple you and start touching you inappropiately. Therefore, Deldrimor Armor Remnant can only go up in prices.

Just remember, only 1(one) drops after you killed ALL 5 bosses, which is a pain in the a-s*s.

I sold about 5 for 45K so far.

and like someone said....you can name your own prices. Who says you have to follow other people prices? and like everyone said, I don't think anything in the game is worth more than 1K(1000g).

Shut A You Face

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Milwaukee

ODWC

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@ Cats
If you or anyone else doesn't do there homework before selling something, is that the sellers fault or the buyers fault? Should someone hold your hand while your plodding through the game?
I am not currently a power seller, although i have bought and sold in the past. I know there are some bad guys out there. But there are also some people who will say to you.."do you really want to do that?" Since someone said that to me one time, I have done the same. Most of the time people just want to sell something fast because they want gold for something else.
Long and short is...If your not sure of something find it here! There are plenty of guides you can use as a "Starting point of reference". At least you can have a clue.

kazjun

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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Its just a trade off between time and money. Set the price too high, and it'll takes ages to sell something at all. Too low and you get a quick sell but reduced profits. So its just a balance between how much money you want and how long you're willing to wait to get it. Different people fall in at different ends of this spectrum. But that's their own choice.

40-50k does seem high to me, but then again there's only once place to get them. If they can't be bothered doing all 5 bosses (or just can't do the bosses in the first place) then it's up to them to decide if they're willing to pay that much. The supply of remnants isn't all that high either, so its not like there are lots of remnants around.

I've done slavers plenty of times myself, but all the remnants got used for my own heroes, so none made it to market. Quite a few are the same. Also, not that many go all the way and kill all 5 bosses. Frankly, I got sick of slavers long before I got all my remnants, but kept going so my heroes could look nice. But now that I have them all dressed, I don't really have any interest in doing slavers again. Same with plenty I know. UW and FoW you get ectos and shards, slavers only really has the end chest. Unless you're ultra lucky, or run then chests hundreds of times its just not worth doing.

cosyfiep

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are they any people who still dont have all their heroes decked out???? (ok besides me, since I have a full house of them).....I still dont understand why anyone would pay that much for something that is almost basically useless-----
some of the weapons are ok skinned, but I am not willing to pay more for a weapon with perfect stats and a rare skin when I can get one with perfects stats and a normal skin---they do the same damage and since I mostly h/h I have no epeen to soothe (and I am a lady too....less epeen to begin with).

Lycan Nibbler

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Join Date: Sep 2006

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Originally Posted by Yelling @ Cats View Post
Ah, yes...the free market system, where selling something for 5 times what it is worth to people who don't know any better is acceptable.
Its "worth" what someone is willing to pay - just because something is overpriced to you doesnt mean it is to everyone.
What you "value" something is only relevant to you... too expensive, then dont buy but also dont QQ coz its more than you are willing to pay.
People want to buy for many reasons, to epeen, to complete collections or just "gasp" coz they like the look of the item. Therefore, if its rare and there is demand price^

If someone seriously thought that paying 50k for a remnant would improve their enjoyment of the game then its their choice - I know I wouldnt as Ive never bothered about what my heros are wearing above runes etc( well, apart from Lyvia ^.^). Each to their own.

Lycan Nibbler

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Join Date: Sep 2006

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Originally Posted by JimmyNeutron View Post
I don't think anything in the game is worth more than 1K(1000g).
I'll buy all your remnants for 1k each then


@ cosy, yes, my heros arent dressed, Im too lazy to bother with em, although I do think Ive got a few bits in storage to do it at some time.

Yelling @ Cats

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Join Date: Jun 2009

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Originally Posted by Lycan Nibbler View Post
Its "worth" what someone is willing to pay - just because something is overpriced to you doesnt mean it is to everyone.
What you "value" something is only relevant to you... too expensive, then dont buy but also dont QQ coz its more than you are willing to pay.
People want to buy for many reasons, to epeen, to complete collections or just "gasp" coz they like the look of the item. Therefore, if its rare and there is demand price^

If someone seriously thought that paying 50k for a remnant would improve their enjoyment of the game then its their choice - I know I wouldnt as Ive never bothered about what my heros are wearing above runes etc( well, apart from Lyvia ^.^). Each to their own.
Is this a serious post?

Are you in fact trying to act like "it is too expensive for me and i really really want it" is what I'm saying in this thread?