Solo Farming Vaettirs (A/Me or A/E) With The Updated Shadow Form

Sun Fired Blank

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007



Build #1:

- Arcane Echo
- Shadow Form
- Way of Perfection
- Ether Nightmare
- Cry of Pain
- Radiation Field
- Channeling
- Elemental Resistance

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Build #2:

- Glyph of Swiftness
- Shadow Form
- Frigid Armor
- Glyph of Lesser Energy
- Burning Speed
- Armor of Earth
- Way of Perfection
- Heart of Shadow

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Equipment:

Blessed Imperial Mask of Superior Shadow Arts
Blessed Imperial Guise of Major Vigor
Blessed Imperial Gloves of Attunement
Blessed Seitung Leggings of Attunement
Blessed Seitung Shoes of Attunement

Fiery Runic Blade of Enchanting
Enchantments last 20% Longer
Inscription: "I have the power!"
Energy +5

Gloom Shield of Devotion
Armor: 16
Health +45 (while Enchanted)
Inscription: "Like a Rolling Stone"
Armor +10 (vs. Earth damage)

Armor:

+ 70 (base)
+ 10 (insignia)
+ 8 (shield)
+ 10 (inscription)
+ 40 (stance) or +46 (enchantment)

1st: Damage Reduction (Armor): ~75%
2nd: Damage Reduction (Linear): -10
Net Result: 0 damage

The first concept probably works for other areas if you substitute your inscription and stance. It probably also works for physicals with Physical Resistance, but you should take the +10 vs. physical, +10 vs. typed insignias. Be careful as physical damage skills often have hefty armor-ignoring bonuses. You may need a Barrier-Bonder or some kind of greater direct or physical damage mitigation (Stoneflesh Aura, Shroud of Distress, Unseen Fury, Armor of Sanctity, etc. or Feigned Neutrality for a short-term heal).

The Elemental Mantra Stances work after the linear damage reduction, so Mantra of Earth plus another sin enchantment doesn't work by itself, although it may work using a Barrier Bonder.

The new version of Shadow Form makes Vaettirs and other monsters hold aggro for much longer than before. They usually won't scatter until they're near death, so corner blocking isn't entirely required (but helps).

The new Shadow Form is in some ways much stronger than the old version. I was thinking of using it with a Barrier Bonder to go and try some quests I haven't tried for a while.

Xsiriss

Xsiriss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

How'd you run there,with no speed boost?

Sun Fired Blank

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

You can run from Longeye's Ledge to Jaga Moraine without an IMS and without having to stop for patrols.

Kordis Sol

Kordis Sol

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

UK

Port Sledge Snow Cones [Cold]

E/

on a slightly different approach, if you are an ele and use obby flesh, its MUCH more fun now without being slowed down.

Sun Fired Blank

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

After some testing, you can take Shroud of Distress in place of Way of Perfection but ultimately it doesn't help for this run -- if you have the +10 vs. earth shield. The +40 armor from Elemental Resistance or Armor of Earth is what prevents you from dying. If you don't have a +10 vs. earth shield (or any shield), you must have Shroud of Distress because your health will eventually reach 50%, and if you don't have it, you will die.

Energy for Shroud gets extremely tight on the A/E bar. You can probably drop Frigid Armor (Shroud will heal you back up) or Heart of Shadow (if you're confident you won't get body-blocked) for Fire Attunement.

Edit: definitely Frigid Armor for Fire Attunement.

Johny bravo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

[SoS]

N/

What kind of times are you looking at?
At this point I would think the ele run is quicker now without the movement penalty. I haven't tried out the sin bars yet but I think the ele is faster.

Currently I use
Glyph of swiftness
OF
Stoneflesh
Mantra of Earth
Sliver
Crystal Wave
EBSOH

8th slot
Still playing around with rad field and arcane echo for a second sliver or wave.

Anyone use something different for the ele

Andemius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

Vanguard's Last Stand [Hero]

W/

I've been using this for a few days now:

A/Me

16 SA
12 Critical
3 DA

Ded Paradox
Shadow Form
Shroud of Distress
Way of Perfection
Way of the Master
Critical Agility
Ether Nightmare
Cry of Pain

SS rank: 6
Luxon Rank: 11

Need a zealous 20% ench sythe

I can clear them all in 4 mins so same as OP. Just gotta make sure you group them all up before you take too much damage.

Ferret Deathsquad

Ferret Deathsquad

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

Boston, Mass

W/Rt

hmm.. might have to try both ways. Looks like fun

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Nice to see some new builds being thought up.

aeligos

aeligos

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2010

USA

Fortituro Et Fides

another SF build!

awesome for us, but......., i think someone over at ANET is going to get canned for not screwing us completely with that meganerf.

-.-

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

If it's those loot-scaled glacial stones you're after, sliver armor is a vastly better compromise. Spending minutes rounding everything up and having everything die within a second of each other is the last thing you want to do for loot scaled goods.

Braxton619

Braxton619

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2008

A/W

Very interesting builds. Will test later.

Kordis Sol

Kordis Sol

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

UK

Port Sledge Snow Cones [Cold]

E/

is there anything here that shows what is affected by loot scaling?

Dogzy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2009

Our Dreams Are [WET]

P/

I have been using E/Me .. Gotten the time down to 3mins


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+3 Earth on headpiece and you should be fine.

Giggio

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2010

Mo/Me

Both a/me works great, but I've seen sometimes SF doesn't recharge in time.

Atro

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

Join Date: Sep 2009

Where don't I live?

A/



got 3 minutes with this build

nothing new its just a mixture of degen and earth spike

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Air 5
Energy Storage 8
Insp 12
Earth 16

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

Cries again .
Please please can we keep on a/me or a/e - we know eles can do this faster and we are not using eles so stop please.
We lowly sins have to make a living still - somehow :P

Giggio - it should work , only thing i can think of is either your not hitting deadly paradox then sf in time or weapon isnt an enchanting weapon - or even human error.I`ll probably test the a/me build i use later on my mes when i get finally the dwarf skill i need ( rushing eotn is such a chore lol )

furiosXXX

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2008

Dobermann

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

poor build

It's too hard to get into jaga...

INB4 accusations of spam:

Build doesnt have the capability to easily make it into jaga moraine, them huge yeti things pwn you...

Giggio

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2010

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiritz View Post
Giggio - it should work , only thing i can think of is either your not hitting deadly paradox then sf in time or weapon isnt an enchanting weapon - or even human error.I`ll probably test the a/me build i use later on my mes when i get finally the dwarf skill i need ( rushing eotn is such a chore lol )
I'm sure I've casted DP before SF and I was wielding 20% ench weapon. I really don't know why it happened.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Dobermann View Post
poor build

It's too hard to get into jaga...

INB4 accusations of spam:

Build doesnt have the capability to easily make it into jaga moraine, them huge yeti things pwn you... First time I've tried I got problem, theres two path with yetis, you should get the left one, there's a path near them you can take without aggro anything.

Joe L.

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

USA

R/

Is it normal for me to get bombed by -2 damage, using the OP a/me build?