Best presearing character?

I've searched for an answer to this, but all I've been able to find are what people prefer, not actually what is the best (most powerful). I had a level 16 E/Mo once, and that was pretty powerful even though the monk secondary was useless. I only equipped bane signet for knockdown.

I'm guessing Ele is the most powerful primary, but I'm wondering if Necro for the minions or Ranger for the pet/troll ungent. Possibly warrior for heal sig.

All suggestions welcomed.

Go N/R with Animate Bone Horror and Comfort Animal. If you have it, use the imp stone and you've got an army at your fingertips.

100% what Sante said. If I want a pre-searing toon to gather collectables for Nick I always roll a necro with a ranger secondary and get my fire imp from the /bonus and level up my pet. It may not be super elegant, but it's a no-nonsence way to get through pre-searing and you can change your secondary later.

I think the answer depends on your definition of "best".

A high level warrior with full knight's insignias can survive and eventually destroy any single charr group. Warriors are also probably best at setting up charr for death leveling (6 groups or whatever, if you really need to do that...).

A high level elementalist can quickly nuke and destroy any group that is balled up.

A high level ranger with max damage bow is great for farming low level enemies that are spread out.

Monks are great for charr hunting with a partner. Not much need to slow down and heal.

Mesmers are able to solo charr hunt in the northlands at lower levels than other classes, such as level 6.

I'm sure necromancers are also powerful, but I haven't really played one in pre.

mesmers

ftw

easy

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E/R. Level your pet up, let him tank, and kill everything at the altar in under two minutes. There is no more powerful class than the ele in pre.

Nercos are also very good, but ele will always be faster.

I have a war in pre. But I heard ranger's are the best followed by warriors, eles and necros (dunno what order). A ranger with an Goty bow and fire imp = overkill. Note: Powershot has been nerfed.


Mesmers can indeed solo very early. One of my favo profs to play in pre. Standing behind walls, spamming backfire and empathy >.>

Oh, another reason why rangers are good. (Also as secondary!!) Is "Troll unguent" and a pet for meatshield.

I was wondering about W/E. Gather them up, firestorm, sever, gash. I'll have to test out the tanking abilities of a fully equipped warrior in pre. From the above comments it looks as if E/R or E/N would be the best choice.

Thx everyone.

E/R or Me/R - Both have powerful spells (Fire Storm is arguably the most powerful skill in Pre-Searing, and the baddies can't escape Backfire or Empathy), and having a pet along + access to Troll Unguent come in very handy.

If you like nuking, definitely go ele with firestorm.

For a tanking warrior, I'd suggest bringing either ether feast or troll unguent, which are both good skills even with 0 attribute points in them. Frenzy can also be your friend (sometimes).

Monks cause their armour looks hot in black! Have a monk with a black bear and get your fire imp on for some solo pwnage.

How were you able to charm the bear? He always interrupts me.

ranger with max bonus bow ftw. troll ungent heals. elemental dmg armor +30. pro leet sauce

you have to get someone to help you. I'm not sure of the process exactly but I do know you need two people.

you need two people. there is a trick which i learned a long time ago. i think you have to have the bear attack your friend and you start charming the bear while your friend moves away from you and takes the bear out of your aggro range. it takes a number of tries, but you can get it eventually.

there is an excellent guide on presearing.com

I looked this up a while ago, when I decide to make a pre searing char for nick gifts.

I came to the conclusion that the ranger is the best choice,They can use all the skills they get without much problem on attributes, you can leave your BM down and have more points to use on other stuff that way, or you not raise your WS that much for a less effective Troll, but with points to use in other attributes, like BM.

The casters have a problem with having spread attributed skills,the mesmer is not a bad choice since it has a nice healing ether feast,it however has shatter delusion without a real skill to feed it with and also has backfire, which might not be such of great use because of the cost/cast time/recharge, empathy however is good, because everything attacks even casters, and it doesn't have that bad of a c/ct/r.

The elementalist has Eruption, which again has a very high cost and recharge, but which can be made more effective if you use shard storm to keep at least one enemy in it.I would rather take lightning javelin for the interrupt effect then take flare for the spamming.

Necro is a also a good choice because of blood magic you focus points into BM DM and SR , you keep renewing your minion when you can, and you use your BM skills when you have enough energy for them.You have 4 healing skills and 3 of them also damage your enemy, so you should not have problems with health if you watch your energy.

Monk is a pretty bad choice, your good at healing, but in pre it is not really needed,your damage is pretty weak, your two active damage skills have too high or a recharge to be effective,you could make a build with retribution and shielding hands, even better if you can get a enchant bonus, or hsr , but I'm not sure if those drop in pre or how shielding hands works with retribution.

The warrior is pretty gimped in pre, your alost certainly gonna be running sword because the other choices are pretty bad, executioner's 8 adrenaline cost is too high in pre and cyclone axe is too conditional to be effective.Hammer Bash is weak alone and you wont want to be using it with frenzy so your stuck with sword, which will be effective but slow, since you wont be doing high damage.

Well, I already said what I though was the best choice, but I just wanted to post on the others too :P, feel free to skip if you want.

you have a fire imp for a reason. i use my fire imp as dmg (my own littler personal elementalist) and just heal him. he doesn;t steal any experience points and pretty much kills everything. for farming, you can also choose to go secondary Mo/N and create a little minion army when farming scale and stuff. you will rip thru areas like nothing else especially once you get closer to L14.

This set up is pretty good for soloing charr and the bosses, except you might want to go Mo/E. It is excellent for farming bandits for dye and farming anything especially. Being Ranger or Mo/E is also damn good for deathlevel setups as you have excellent surviveability whilst pulling once you reach L16. i can deathlevel setup at L14 but i know its not worth it yet.

gl & hf

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but you can't get any Earth or Water Magic skills in Pre.

i agree. i beleive you don;t start getting any earth skills until around yaks bend. water skills start appearing after you get past lions arch i believe.

The skill he stated - Shard Storm, is available from Old Ascalon onwards. It's gotten by doing the quest Shalev's Tale.

So yeah, that skill won't be available in pre-searing. Check out this page from presearing.com to see what skill are available in presearing for each class.

Monk + Imp = ftw imo

Sorry my mistake then about eruption, I knew i never gotten the skill in pre, i was just looking at the page on wiki,but I saw something that wasn't there.

I still stand by my opinion though.Everyone can take the fire imp, the others will just be doing more damage then the monk.You just don't need the heals imo, and the fire imp already has Aura of Restoration, which does good healing for the damage he takes.

My two cents,

I have a lvl 19 War/R with Lvl 19 Fire Imp and a lvl 20 Pet that I Death Leveled.

Also I have the GW:EN Pre Release for the Glacial Blade and I put an 18% vs Charr on it.

I also have access to the Sundering Longbow that came with the Pre release.

I do NOT run War skill line. In fact I only run 6 skills all of which are ranger but one...Frenzy.

Using the bow I can kill a hunter in 3 shots and only 2 shots if the imp hits.

Now i also have a Monk lvl 16 with imp and the pre Release Staff and that sucks. Chaots remove enchantments so there is a draw back there.

Troll Ungent is the BEST Regeneration in all of presearing bar none as it can not be removed. Throw in some Pumpkin Pie and a cup cake and your pawning the Northlands in 3 minute runs all by yourself at lvl 19. WOOT


Back to reality. I have 5 accounts and the LDoA is on my main account and I am going to be running that to post. So I need another Farmer for Nick.

Mine is a Ranger with the GotY bow. Once I got the attributes to 9 mark for the req I can slaughter everything at a distance for regular farming all but charr carvings.

Once my ranger reached lvl 6 - I did the Charr at the gate quest for all that xp - i had my new farmer. Level 6 = Mark at 9. One from my headpiece armor, one from my Mark rune on my head piece and the other 7 from attribute points

So for low levels I would say, Ranger with Pet and mesmer for some degen?

the secondary is messed up - are you picking a secondary and NOT going for LDoA?
Cause if you pick a secondary then you have access to the attributes. Now Necro looks a lot better but so does ELE for Firestorm.

So if you are going to LDoA its Ranger is the fastest to lvl and kill charr.
But for Fun, its Necro/ELE

Its all a matter of opinion.
Note: My Ranger does not have his secondary chosen yet as I am still undecided

Me/E is the best combo by far imp or not

I always love it when people ask "What is the best......"

In this case the answers have been Necro, Elementalist, Mesmer, Monk, Ranger, and Warrior. I guess that about covers it.

I'm surprised that no one mentioned Rit, Derv, Sin, or Paragon.

There is no "best" - just "best for you".

I'm surprised that Rit, Derv, Sin, or Paragon isn't available in Pre-Searing

When it comes to pre-searing this statement that correctly applies to everything else is wrong.

When the number of skills is so limited there is gonna be a class that does better then the rest.

What profession is best?The warrior with 1 skill for each attribute or the ele with 5 skills in fire and nothing in the others?

Chances are the the answer would be the ele.I know the skill choice isn't as drastic in pre-searing, but the dilemma is the same.

Did you even read the thread or did you just see the title Best charcter and missed the word presearing?

As mentioned before it is impossible by yourself (I read this somewhere that you used to be able to do this in pre-searing by yourself but ANET stopped that after it got out of hand... You can do this with a partner (I will look up how to as I forgot the process as well )) I wish anet wouldn't do some of the things they do -- Rephrase that... Most of the things they do

Oh really? What do you mean by out of hand? Is the bear more powerful?

No idea - each and every animal companion is created equal, except the Bear, which is slightly less powerful than the rest, thanks to its pointless Brutal Mauling skill.

That is what I was trying to avoid when I asked for the best build, in terms of power. I'm sure those who solely play warriors in pre will say warriors are the best...and the same goes with every profession.

Are we playing the same game? Tell me how you can get any of those 4 classes into Pre-searing and I'll pay you a stack of ecto.

Protip: "" indicates that someone is being less than serious.

Did you even read this thread? I listed off all the classes that people recommended for pre-searing.

@Snograt - I was wondering if anyone would actually respond to that. (I admit, it was almost troll-like.)

Just because your entitled to your opinion does not mean I cant criticize it.

And just because people say "Everyone is entitled to their opinion" doesn't mean they really are.

Thanks everyone. I've got a lvl 12 E/R that can solo (with imp+pet) the northlands fairly easily now. I have to admit that I think Me/E or Mo/E might be a better choice. My pet is nothing more than an aggro control while I firestorm/flare everything to death. The imp destroys charr and can solo 3-4 by himself.

E/--- and take the skills from ranger,
I'm lvl 14 in 6 days of casual playing, and I pwn the char in the northlands in less then 5 minutes every round. just get to know your pet and use him as bait, - use the attack, guard, and heel. so you can ball up your targets. 1 firestorm is always enough to kill them of.

ohh and make sure you rune your armor well, you can easily buy some blessed insignia's. and you will always use Aura of restoration, so you will be enchanted.
+ the chaot's can shatter you, but you can cast AOR fast enough anyways.