I would like you to tell me some things that I may have to change of my actual sin build which is:
[Jagged strike][Fox Fangs][Death Blossom][Palm Strike][Sharpen Daggers][Critical Eye][Death's Charge][Shadow Refuge]
Critical impacts 11
Shadow Arts 4
Dagger Mastery 12
Wanna improve my build
Warlord Xardas
Tenebrae
You got a mix right there. If you are going to keep Palm Strike no matter what you should try
Palm Strike+Trampling Ox+Falling Spider+Blades of Steel/Any dual you like.
Apart from that , if you want to do damage and do it fast you should add Critical Agility and Asuran Scan ( Both PvE only ). You can use 2 slots for utility/shadowsteps/IMS skill .
Palm Strike+Trampling Ox+Falling Spider+Blades of Steel/Any dual you like.
Apart from that , if you want to do damage and do it fast you should add Critical Agility and Asuran Scan ( Both PvE only ). You can use 2 slots for utility/shadowsteps/IMS skill .
Giro
That build would only have 2 recharging dagger skills for Blades of Steel, so Death Blossom would be better imo.
I would run:
Palm Strike
Trampling Ox
Falling Spider
Death Blossom
Asuran Scan
Critical Agility
Critical Eye
"Save Yourselves!"
You shouldn't critical defenses if you have some good healers, and you can replace "Save Yourselves!" with Death's Charge or Sharpen Daggers.
EDIT: Blades of steel counts itself as one of the recharging attacks, so that would be a good alternative to death blossom in this build. At 13 Dagger Mastery, Blades of Steel would give +45 damage, but Death Blossom gives +42 and 42 damage to adjacent foes, though, so I still think DB is better.
I would run:
Palm Strike
Trampling Ox
Falling Spider
Death Blossom
Asuran Scan
Critical Agility
Critical Eye
"Save Yourselves!"
You shouldn't critical defenses if you have some good healers, and you can replace "Save Yourselves!" with Death's Charge or Sharpen Daggers.
EDIT: Blades of steel counts itself as one of the recharging attacks, so that would be a good alternative to death blossom in this build. At 13 Dagger Mastery, Blades of Steel would give +45 damage, but Death Blossom gives +42 and 42 damage to adjacent foes, though, so I still think DB is better.
Dzjudz
Also, I would suggest you do the Attribute Point Quests for Factions characters to get 30 extra attribute points.
Bobby2
I'm thinking you only got Factions? It would help if you'd mention the campaigns you have available.
CritStrikes 12+1
Dagger 12+1+1 (like Dzjudz said, get the attribute quests)
- Jagged Strike
- Fox Fangs
- Death Blossom
- Critical Eye ------ this is good stuff.
If it's Factions only, I'd fill it out with:
- Critical Defenses --- you don't have Hero healers, this does more for survivablity than any crap Shadow Arts skill
- Dash
- Save Yourselves!
- Aura of Displacement (to keep that Shadow Stepping vibe you got going on)
I'm ashamed to be the first to tell you that Palm Strike is a crap Elite, especially for PvE.
CritStrikes 12+1
Dagger 12+1+1 (like Dzjudz said, get the attribute quests)
- Jagged Strike
- Fox Fangs
- Death Blossom
- Critical Eye ------ this is good stuff.
If it's Factions only, I'd fill it out with:
- Critical Defenses --- you don't have Hero healers, this does more for survivablity than any crap Shadow Arts skill
- Dash
- Save Yourselves!
- Aura of Displacement (to keep that Shadow Stepping vibe you got going on)
I'm ashamed to be the first to tell you that Palm Strike is a crap Elite, especially for PvE.
Warlord Xardas
Actually got all the campaigns :P
One question about the build you told me Bobby. I was using the Shadow Refuge only to heal myself mainly, also to step behind the enemy, so do you still recommend me the elite of Aura of Displacement? :S
Ty all for ur answers
One question about the build you told me Bobby. I was using the Shadow Refuge only to heal myself mainly, also to step behind the enemy, so do you still recommend me the elite of Aura of Displacement? :S
Ty all for ur answers
Dzjudz
Like Bobby2 said, I would try a different elite. Palm Strike in PvE is a bit ineffective.
The first four skills of Bobby's list are very good with anything. Jagged Strike, Fox Fangs, Death Blossom and Critical Eye are awesome DPS with very fast recharge times.
4 elites I think you should have a look at are Flashing Blades (Factions), Moebius Strike (Factions), Fox's Promise (Nightfall) and Way of the Assassin (Nightfall).
Flashing Blades is great defense and a little offense, you can use it instead of Critical Defenses.
Moebius Strike is very popular with assassins, but I don't think it's very effective with the attack chain above, because the chain recharges extremely fast already and won't benefit from Moebius Strike. But it's great in other builds.
Fox's Promise is very cool in stance/block heavy areas.
Way of the Assassin is for if you don't need any of the three other elites. It's not used for the IAS, since Critical Agility takes care of that, but for the increased critical hit rate, giving you more energy (and a little more damage).
If you have Nightfall and/or EotN, you should look at PvE skills. Save Yourselves, as bobby pointed out, is already available in Factions and very good on an assassin. Critical Agility should be on every assassin PvE bar. Asuran Scan is an incredible damage booster.
The first four skills of Bobby's list are very good with anything. Jagged Strike, Fox Fangs, Death Blossom and Critical Eye are awesome DPS with very fast recharge times.
4 elites I think you should have a look at are Flashing Blades (Factions), Moebius Strike (Factions), Fox's Promise (Nightfall) and Way of the Assassin (Nightfall).
Flashing Blades is great defense and a little offense, you can use it instead of Critical Defenses.
Moebius Strike is very popular with assassins, but I don't think it's very effective with the attack chain above, because the chain recharges extremely fast already and won't benefit from Moebius Strike. But it's great in other builds.
Fox's Promise is very cool in stance/block heavy areas.
Way of the Assassin is for if you don't need any of the three other elites. It's not used for the IAS, since Critical Agility takes care of that, but for the increased critical hit rate, giving you more energy (and a little more damage).
If you have Nightfall and/or EotN, you should look at PvE skills. Save Yourselves, as bobby pointed out, is already available in Factions and very good on an assassin. Critical Agility should be on every assassin PvE bar. Asuran Scan is an incredible damage booster.
Chthon
Nothing terribly new here, but it seems what I thought was common knowledge was not.
Basic sin build.
Scan, SY!, Jagged Strike, Fox Fangs, Death Blossom, Moebius Strike, Critical Eye, Critical Agility
Alterations:If your party is using an Essence of Celerity, and your backline is reliable, swap CritAgility for Drunken Master If your party does such high damage that things are usually dying before you can get a second Death Blossom on your target (usually a buff-heavy situation), then you can consider swapping out Moebius...... and CritAgility for By Ural's Hammer and Way of the Assassin (I'm not personally too fond of this build, but some people swear by it) ... for Flashing Blades.... for Fox's Promise if blocking is a major problem in that area.
If you really need a DW for some reason, you can swap Fox Fangs for Golden Fox Strike, though I wouldn't advise it.
Basic sin build.
Scan, SY!, Jagged Strike, Fox Fangs, Death Blossom, Moebius Strike, Critical Eye, Critical Agility
Alterations:If your party is using an Essence of Celerity, and your backline is reliable, swap CritAgility for Drunken Master If your party does such high damage that things are usually dying before you can get a second Death Blossom on your target (usually a buff-heavy situation), then you can consider swapping out Moebius...... and CritAgility for By Ural's Hammer and Way of the Assassin (I'm not personally too fond of this build, but some people swear by it) ... for Flashing Blades.
Bobby2
If you have all the campaigns... just follow Chthon's advice. Critical Agility is made of pure win. Though keep in mind...
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Moebius Strike is very popular with assassins, but I don't think it's very effective with the attack chain above, because the chain recharges extremely fast already and won't benefit from Moebius Strike.
...this is true to an extent.
Bobby2
Just as an aside: you tested vs. Jagged-Exhausting-Moebius-Blossom as well?
Dzjudz
It's just that Moebius Strike barely adds DPS, and that is only without buffs (with buffs like SoH, JS/FF/DB has more attacks than DB/MS and thus more buff dmg). I would suggest MS only if you are running something else than JS/FF/DB.
WotA is good because it is a stance. Seeing as Critical Agility will almost always be on top because of it refreshing, it will get hit first by enchantment removal. You'll still have an IAS and critbooster in that case.
I just think that in PvE, with heroes equipped with buffs, Moebius Strike is inferior to any of the three other options listed.
But then again, this is about Warlord Xargas' build. I'd suggest you try all of them and see which one suits you best. I switch between them all the time.
The basic build probably looks like this (click for build) with 14 dagger mastery, 13 critical strikes and the optional elite.
WotA is good because it is a stance. Seeing as Critical Agility will almost always be on top because of it refreshing, it will get hit first by enchantment removal. You'll still have an IAS and critbooster in that case.
I just think that in PvE, with heroes equipped with buffs, Moebius Strike is inferior to any of the three other options listed.
But then again, this is about Warlord Xargas' build. I'd suggest you try all of them and see which one suits you best. I switch between them all the time.
The basic build probably looks like this (click for build) with 14 dagger mastery, 13 critical strikes and the optional elite.
Bobby2
Unacceptable by YOUR standards maybe.
Sigh. Looks like I'll have to do it myself.
Sigh. Looks like I'll have to do it myself.
Chthon
Bobby2
You get a pretty good feel for it after a while. I'll be the first to admit that one needs to be more judicious in target selection, but at least it spices things up a bit...
(also it's fun to outshine Locust's sins in 'buff damage delivery')
(also it's fun to outshine Locust's sins in 'buff damage delivery')
Bobby2
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