Post-Nerf Froggie Run - It's Duo-able!
sandorx
We've been working on some builds and came up with this for the Bogroot Dungeon SC.
A/Mo Runner+Bonder
12+1+3 Shadow Arts,12 Protection Prayer, 3 Deadly Arts
- Deadly Paradox
- Shadow Form
- Shroud of Distress
- Shadow Sanctuary
- ''I Am Unstoppable!''
- Dark Escape
- Balthazar's Spirit
- Life Bond
E/Me Sliver
12+1+3 Earth Magic, 10 Inspiration Magic, 8+1 Energy Storage
- Obsidian Flesh
- Elemental Lord
- Sliver Armor
- Armor of Earth
- Stoneflesh Aura
- Mental Block
- Channeling
- Mantra of Resolve
The builds aren't completed yet, but the test run was a success:
We're currently working on the builds, ''softening the edges'' at the run in level 1 and the difficult parts of level 2
Note: An Essence of Celerity was used on level 2.
A/Mo Runner+Bonder
12+1+3 Shadow Arts,12 Protection Prayer, 3 Deadly Arts
- Deadly Paradox
- Shadow Form
- Shroud of Distress
- Shadow Sanctuary
- ''I Am Unstoppable!''
- Dark Escape
- Balthazar's Spirit
- Life Bond
E/Me Sliver
12+1+3 Earth Magic, 10 Inspiration Magic, 8+1 Energy Storage
- Obsidian Flesh
- Elemental Lord
- Sliver Armor
- Armor of Earth
- Stoneflesh Aura
- Mental Block
- Channeling
- Mantra of Resolve
The builds aren't completed yet, but the test run was a success:
We're currently working on the builds, ''softening the edges'' at the run in level 1 and the difficult parts of level 2
Note: An Essence of Celerity was used on level 2.
jonnieboi05
I know I won't ever do this since I am way too unmotivated to play this game anymore, but good job regardless.
novawhiz
agreed.
here about update and sf nerf and come back to forums to check out gw is doing.
then i see 100 threads with new SF/obby builds.
/uninstall again
here about update and sf nerf and come back to forums to check out gw is doing.
then i see 100 threads with new SF/obby builds.
/uninstall again
shishkabibble
You guys realize that me and my friend got a 21 minute run with discord way with an essence, right? Not that hard of a dungeon to complete in HM still...
chessyang
red/blue candy on level 1 run?
cool keep it coming.
cool keep it coming.
Welthas
Very nice, glad to see these farms coming back
Sethellington
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Originally Posted by shishkabibble
You guys realize that me and my friend got a 21 minute run with discord way with an essence, right? Not that hard of a dungeon to complete in HM still...
Why would we realise that? Are you famous or something? Good job guys, any tactics or plain run and kill?
sandorx
its done similar to the old frogrun with running through to lvl 2 and then to the key keeper ect, as a solo runner it's not that easy to make it through the Incubus, tho with some timing its possible. and at the beetles have Disenchantment, a spirit that causes problems. But as SF doesnt drain ur life when its ripped, its not a real problem, just dont forget to recast SF before u aggro the frogs again
and about the Discord run, like said, this was a test run, our 1st try of doing it duo, so it tends to be sloppier
The red rock candies arent such a bad idea but tkinking about it, its a farm run, we intend to make more money out of it than spend it so it might not be so wise to use em.
Any ideas are welcome and you are welcome to try it out if you are up to the challenge.
and about the Discord run, like said, this was a test run, our 1st try of doing it duo, so it tends to be sloppier
The red rock candies arent such a bad idea but tkinking about it, its a farm run, we intend to make more money out of it than spend it so it might not be so wise to use em.
Any ideas are welcome and you are welcome to try it out if you are up to the challenge.
Sethellington
Well a cupcake is cheaper than rock candy.
Also, ignored the Discordway guy. Jealous cos you did it in 19 mins with 2 people on a test run, took him 21 mins with a full party :P
Also, ignored the Discordway guy. Jealous cos you did it in 19 mins with 2 people on a test run, took him 21 mins with a full party :P
Deatgs Corrupter
YAY i love u bogroots is my fav run good job maybe we will see some runs in doomlore.
@run time i used to solo and get 9-11mins therefore duo should be able to do the same
GJ
@run time i used to solo and get 9-11mins therefore duo should be able to do the same
GJ
shishkabibble
The Arching Healer
shishkabibble
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Originally Posted by The Arching Healer
The difference is that you can bring 6 leechers which pay you mad, resulting in the fact that you can get 20000% more profit by doing it duo?
This is true...
Sethellington
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Originally Posted by shishkabibble
This is true...
This is what I eventually was getting at. Bogroots is generally ~10k for a run. So if this can be optimised to a 30 minute run you get 6 leechers @10k = 60k. Split between 2 is 30k for each run. That coupled with the chance of a Froggie and 60k/hr ain't half bad! And if it can be done quicker with 2 people than 8 people anyway, I'd definitely stick to 2!
Deatgs Corrupter
pretty sure u can just get a leecher to take life bond and some perma to run first dungeon level and he goes half price and boom u get 60k
also duo is better than heroes and hench cos they steal ur dops.
also if u r gonna take full team just take manly spike team and get it done in 15mins
also duo is better than heroes and hench cos they steal ur dops.
also if u r gonna take full team just take manly spike team and get it done in 15mins
Deatgs Corrupter
well when i used to run wiht the old sliver build i just got a pug to run first level....so u could just bron an monk?para hero with fallback +other run skillsand bonds then at Khabuus flag him and roll
Deatgs Corrupter
hey man, i tried with a mate and every time we get to beetles the ele gets crippled and we cannot shrine hop. how did u manage it?
LordRico
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Originally Posted by Deatgs Corrupter
hey man, i tried with a mate and every time we get to beetles the ele gets crippled and we cannot shrine hop. how did u manage it?
As a duo (dsnt work with 3 or more ppl) u only need the sin to run to the Key-shrine and die to transfer both of ye there, after that u get the rest, we're still calculating on how to make it smoother (havn't still done a 2nd run)
Deatgs Corrupter
k well i tried what u said no luck we just went back to satrt of cave.
sandorx
if the runner ( sin in this case) triggers the shrine , both will spawn on it after death, that's for sure, at sinway froggies there needed to be atleast 3 who went past it, at duo 1 is enough. make sure u rly trigger the shrine, that the ''ray of light'' becomes a ''ball'', once u've done that u practically won.
as for the beetle part, ele isnt a runner at all ( lack of run skills and anti cripple) so the sin's on his own the whole dungeon. as sin ur eventually gonna get stripped of enchants cuz of disenchantment, but for that part u dont rly need SF, just be sure u recast it before aggroin the frogs again.
ah and for the record, we had 2 '' unneccessary'' runner deaths in lv2, due to an aggro of Incubus ( unneccessary meaning dying cuz of a mistake, not a planned death for respawning at another shrine).
as for the beetle part, ele isnt a runner at all ( lack of run skills and anti cripple) so the sin's on his own the whole dungeon. as sin ur eventually gonna get stripped of enchants cuz of disenchantment, but for that part u dont rly need SF, just be sure u recast it before aggroin the frogs again.
ah and for the record, we had 2 '' unneccessary'' runner deaths in lv2, due to an aggro of Incubus ( unneccessary meaning dying cuz of a mistake, not a planned death for respawning at another shrine).
wesman
hey so me and a friend of mine have been trying this out... seems to work nicely though we subbed deadly paradox out for dwarven stability (another cover plus makes extends damage redux)... anyhow we have the whole run down pat (about 15 min) but our problem is that last boss... sliver just wont stick on him, you guys have any suggestions? its really frustrating after all the work we put into this.
LordRico
to complete the dungeon you have to kill the boss and HIS group of about 3 frogs, to do this in the shortest amount of time i solve it by knowing where I have the boss' "minions" see em die, and then die myself, after that the foe with most health (should) be targeted as a primary. If u get the boss killed first be sure to ONLY kill the "minions" or else the run will take ages. (basicly the tip is: die until he is targeted)
Deatgs Corrupter
k guys listen up for pro tips on kahbuus fat frog frying.
-a) first sliver try moving around the boss until u get him with sliver then just wait.
-b) if you did not do a) try it again, if that doesn't work you cna do two things.
1)ball up the other minions away from then get assassin to stand next to him then EE(if u take this in your build, i did) to him and put up sliver.
2)wait until it finally reaches onto him, if this is after loads of the minions have died just use a summon stone and get the assassin to wand takes time to work but works.
on another note. i have managed to do this now but as a guild who love the old DD and runner days we just take 2 DD and 6 runners and then roll, tis a lot of fun cheers for the builds our time stands at like 11mins second level.
Lord rico your idea will not work because Khabuus is not classed as a boss and also its just quicker to have a slot of things beating on you and then susing sliver.
-a) first sliver try moving around the boss until u get him with sliver then just wait.
-b) if you did not do a) try it again, if that doesn't work you cna do two things.
1)ball up the other minions away from then get assassin to stand next to him then EE(if u take this in your build, i did) to him and put up sliver.
2)wait until it finally reaches onto him, if this is after loads of the minions have died just use a summon stone and get the assassin to wand takes time to work but works.
on another note. i have managed to do this now but as a guild who love the old DD and runner days we just take 2 DD and 6 runners and then roll, tis a lot of fun cheers for the builds our time stands at like 11mins second level.
Lord rico your idea will not work because Khabuus is not classed as a boss and also its just quicker to have a slot of things beating on you and then susing sliver.
LordRico
well Khabuus is classed as what i usually call a "Party Leader" which will respond to the ways i've tried, and it was this way i killed him myself during this first run (the kill took 2-4min including HIS mob) [most of my sliver-tricks I can't explain in words cuz of language and it's in my fingers XD]
Nice job Deatgs.C, it pleases us that it's coming to use, ye happen to have a pic of a record run?
/Rico
Nice job Deatgs.C, it pleases us that it's coming to use, ye happen to have a pic of a record run?
/Rico
Deatgs Corrupter
I do not think I have one of tht run but will get u one asap.
I know what you mean about it being in the fingers because I used to do the khabuus ball behind fat guy jump on an assasin. but anyways more to the point if you take just
one DD and some sins with loads of cover enchants you can get run to first patriarch down to 4min including zone time then if you auto target right away on khab u Basically got urself a 10-14min run.
the only problem with more than two is that at lea t five of you have to hit the shrine.
I know what you mean about it being in the fingers because I used to do the khabuus ball behind fat guy jump on an assasin. but anyways more to the point if you take just
one DD and some sins with loads of cover enchants you can get run to first patriarch down to 4min including zone time then if you auto target right away on khab u Basically got urself a 10-14min run.
the only problem with more than two is that at lea t five of you have to hit the shrine.
Strife17
Works indeed.
our first attempt. not really sure if you need mental block/channeling. maybe could swap mental block or channeling for ebon vanguard ward
I think it would be nice to see a SC team again,
with 1 E/ME DD
and few runners, since they hit pretty hard trough SF. to speed things up
Thx sharing builds, gj
our first attempt. not really sure if you need mental block/channeling. maybe could swap mental block or channeling for ebon vanguard ward
I think it would be nice to see a SC team again,
with 1 E/ME DD
and few runners, since they hit pretty hard trough SF. to speed things up
Thx sharing builds, gj
Glory bladez
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6 min lvl 2
6 min lvl 2
Hell_Matt
Real men go solo ^^
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Died twice getting through stormies -.- think coulda been 6 minutes :P
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Died twice getting through stormies -.- think coulda been 6 minutes :P