Ritualist/Ranger barrage?

Qdq Swi

Qdq Swi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

N/

Is there any point to Rt/R with barrage as elite?

I've been screwing around.. with the idea, I'm bored. Anyway... I think its fair to assume that spirit spamm > PvE. Disagree? Maybe so. I think its also fair to assume that R/Rt with splinter weapon + barrage > PvE. So, question is.. Is it viable to run a splinter barrage build + spirit spamm on a ritualist?

Well... I personally think its a good idea. Why? Well... For starters, a ranger spirit spamming is just... yeah, anyway, other than that.. Ritualists have more energy than rangers, faster energy gain, can spec higher in channeling for splinter weapon. Put simply, I would argue that a fusion of the most used Ritualist and Ranger builds, while on a ritualist, will dish out more maintainable damage. Not to mention, spirits work as a barracade.

Possible Build:

Splinter Weapon
Barrge -elite-
Painful Bond
Vampirism -PvE skill-
Agony
Bloodsong
Res/ Heal/ PvE skill.
Res/ Heal/ PvE skill.

I'd use either a Zealous Hornbow or a Sundering Hornbow, your choice of course.

Anyway, tell me what you think? Useless? Pointless? Redundant?

Swahnee

Swahnee

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Italy

Mo/

Uhm..i've never tried it, but it seems that the opposite way could be better, because of expertise reducing attacks and binding rituals energy costs. Yes, the ritualist primary can reach higher attribute levels thanks to runes, but the ranger imho would spam barrage easier.

However, it's certainly interesting to try^^

maxxfury

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

[DVDF] Gp

Me/A

14/16 point splinter is epic!

Azure mist

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

CAli

R/Mo

I like it more than the r/rt one tbh.
Zealous bow is necessary though.

jackinthe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

most people usually run 12marks, 8 exp, 10 chan on rangers, b/c 10 is where the 4th attack is added iirc. is fun on rits for the extra attacks + damage and zealous bows make for nice emanagement

Tenebrae

Tenebrae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Spain

LHV

R/N

If you want to use a bow then use this combo for single target damage and some AoE :
Spirit Strength
Weap of Agg
Volley
Fast Bow Attack
With that sht you blow things up pretty fast. If you go 12 marks its even more damag , +35 in every regular shot is really nice. Switch to Splinter on Weap of Agg recharge if you want , all you need is timing and a Zealous bow.

Desert Rose

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Or, simply cast Splinter Weapon on a physical and get rid of Barrage; Congratulations, you've just saved about half of your attribute points, your elite skill slot and casting time to do something useful.

Splinter Weapon and Barrage on the same bar is mostly only good in a few farming builds, otherwise it's rather bad.

Wielder Of Magic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2008

Netherlands

The Saviors Of [EviL]

D/

I suppose the phrase "AOE wins PvE" is unknown to you?

ac1inferno

ac1inferno

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Boston

We D Shot Your Stances [GODS]

A/W

Not a good idea to have a Barrage/Spirit Spam hybrid. If you're going Barrage, you should just focus on that.

[build prof=rt/r Channeling=12+1+3 Marksmanship=12 Restoration=3][Splinter Weapon][Barrage][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][I Am The Strongest][Favorable Winds][Spirit Siphon][Summon Spirits][Flesh of My Flesh][/build]

You will need a Zealous Flatbow.

LoneManWolf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2009

Mo/

i run something similar but in all honesty rarely do i use all the attacks barrage offers so i changed it out for volley and take signet of spirits

Painful Bond
SoS
Bloodsong
Vampirism
Splinter Weapon
Volley
Summon Spirits
Spirit Siphon

16 chan/12 mark/4 spawn
pretty fun plus i can still throw splinter on frontliners in the party

-Makai-

-Makai-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

WA

DH

Rt/

Don't forget to throw in Nightmare Weapon + Triple Shot for kicks. Expensive, but fun.

dhawke20

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2009

Nocturnal Order of Mithraeum [MooN]

R/

I agree that a Ritualist could probably handle this build better... as for not being able to spam Barrage because of energy management... Two words: Spirit Siphon. The skill bar has room for it and that combined with a zealous bow would be plenty of energy. Alternatively... Less points in Expertise for a R/Rt would allow better Channeling and Spirit Siphon/Zealous Bow would probably make up for the lack of Expertise.

topsmoker1

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2008

OLD

i use Rt with barrage very often and for me it works well.
15 channeling, 10 spawning, 10 marksman
barrage, bloodsong, spirit spihon, splinter, great dwarf weapon, ebon standart of honor, agony, +1 (I am the strongest, technobabble, res, pet, favorable)
I also have hero rangers with barrage/pet build and sometimes i use necro with order.
Done a lot with this.

Estief Yu

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2009

GA

Ctrl Alt Elite

Rt/

spirit's strength + volley > barrage imo

i'm still gonna try this out though, looks pretty silly.