What to store my money in?

Pugs Not Drugs

Pugs Not Drugs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2009

Well, I've maxed out both my Xunlai Accounts, but want to keep going, but dont have enough space. What is the best item to store all that cash in. I know ectos, zkeys, and lockpicks are common, but neither of them sound appealing because:

ectos keep jumping up and down in price, and its only a matter of time before a new SC is found, and they drop back to 4k

zkeys are hard to buy and sell for 5k, but they seem the most appealing to me right now

lockpicks are hard to sell

what are your thoughts?

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

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zkeys will keep their price tag. with the XTH gone, they aren't going anywhere in price. they are also super easy to sell if you ever want to convert them. you could also buy a bunch of black dye lol. i would go with zkeys if you are anti-ecto.

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Buy something you want with it!

(It's not real money you know)

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

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Black & White Dyes seem fairly consistent.

dr love

dr love

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Hyperion

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HSBC is pretty hot right now, i'd put my money there

MagmaRed

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The only reason to accumulate money is to buy expensive things with it. If there are things you want, buy them. If there aren't things you want, then why are you saving up money? I understand keeping some money around for when a new item pops up you didn't expect to want/need, but unless there are things you want/need to buy, there is no reason to keep storing money. Invest it in your guild/alliance, your HoM, or various titles. If you don't want to do that, then why are you saving money? Not like there will be new skills, armors, weapons, etc. added at this point in the games life, so anything currently available is all you have to choose from. MAY get a few new things, but not much, and not often.

Either spend the money, or stop saving it. That is my advice.

Ksenofont

Ksenofont

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed View Post
The only reason to accumulate money is to buy expensive things with it. If there are things you want, buy them. If there aren't things you want, then why are you saving up money? I understand keeping some money around for when a new item pops up you didn't expect to want/need, but unless there are things you want/need to buy, there is no reason to keep storing money. Invest it in your guild/alliance, your HoM, or various titles. If you don't want to do that, then why are you saving money? Not like there will be new skills, armors, weapons, etc. added at this point in the games life, so anything currently available is all you have to choose from. MAY get a few new things, but not much, and not often.

Either spend the money, or stop saving it. That is my advice.
Agree with this in 100%.

IMO if you want to convert gold into item's start buying consets or only BUs. (Price of them is not changing , like ecto/zkeys price).

P.S. Don't even think about lockpicks , really hard to sell.

EragonSorceror

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

[OE]

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I agree with previous posters that black dye is the best option. It is worth the most so you will run out of space more slowly, and it is very stable in price. The only drawback is that it is pretty hard to buy and sell, but it doesn't seem like you're going to be selling them very often. I personally would choose z-keys because they are easy to sell(at least in my experience) and pretty stable, however, black dye seems like the best option for you.

Pugs Not Drugs

Pugs Not Drugs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed View Post
The only reason to accumulate money is to buy expensive things with it. If there are things you want, buy them. If there aren't things you want, then why are you saving up money? I understand keeping some money around for when a new item pops up you didn't expect to want/need, but unless there are things you want/need to buy, there is no reason to keep storing money. Invest it in your guild/alliance, your HoM, or various titles. If you don't want to do that, then why are you saving money? Not like there will be new skills, armors, weapons, etc. added at this point in the games life, so anything currently available is all you have to choose from. MAY get a few new things, but not much, and not often.

Either spend the money, or stop saving it. That is my advice.


Well, I am going to spend it once i get around to making more pve characters. I only have a two right now, and they have pretty much everything i want on them. so i was going to spend once i have some new characters to spend it on. the only reason im farming and not spending my money is that i found a farm that i think might get nerfed soon, and i want to abuse it while i can.

Gift3d

Gift3d

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Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

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ectos are what mostly all people use. you buy expensive things with ectos. ectos.

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

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Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

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^ you should read before you respond, ectos are unstable in price, which is why op is not keen on stocking up on them.

i think you should buy rare items that will stay rare: ie r9 crystallines, dual mod low req shields, etc. etc.

Motoko

Motoko

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Join Date: Aug 2008

Dallas, Texas

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Out of any of your options:

Zkeys are the most stable and you have a pretty high chance of keeping it at 5k per key.

The second part beyond stashing Zkeys is when you get to a decent amount of Zkeys, I would convert them to Ectos (if you watch the market and get them at the best deal for you) and purchase rare minis (naga, oni, rollerbeetle, yeti, etc etc).

That way not only are you storing cash, you've invested it into something that will appreciate in value.

Trader of Secrets

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Zkeys, very stable at 5k

Risus

Risus

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Join Date: Jun 2007

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ectos will NEVER go back down to 4k, they will only go up from here. Cons are due to be nerfed so they will be 40k/cons instead of 8k/cons so use ectos.

Braxton619

Braxton619

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2008

A/W

I would say zkeys because they are going to stay at 5k each since there is no more xth.

Greedy Gus

Greedy Gus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Striking Distance

Isn't 5k pretty arbitrary to be some 'stuck' price? Or is that somehow related to the crap that comes out of the chest? Surely if less people want the zaishen title, or if less people are pvping the supply/demand can fluctuate.

DigitalFear

DigitalFear

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2009

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risus View Post
ectos will NEVER go back down to 4k, they will only go up from here. Cons are due to be nerfed so they will be 40k/cons instead of 8k/cons so use ectos.
What? Could you provide me a source? Just curious.

Age

Age

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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Why not just spend it on something instead of keeping it.You never know when the servers could come down.

Dorny

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Switzerland

Dragons of Shadows [DOS]

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Buy a couple of elite armor sets, then zkeys.

shander

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2010

The Sundered Throne

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well, just to recap what you originally posted, You've already maxxed out your cash in storage and don't want to put all your future money into ecto's and want some new ideas.

After reading the previous posts, my only suggestion is start collecting armbraces. They're crazy expensive(100k+E's each), and stackable(250 armbraces=O.M.G.).

Arduin

Arduin

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Lockpicks. Stack can be easily bought/sold for 80k.

Ratman

Ratman

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Join Date: Apr 2008

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You could also buy some rare minis like unded celestial rats.
There still rising in price so you could even make profit out of it.

upier

upier

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

rkubik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

I would say Z keys, lockpicks or black dye. Everything else is too volatile.

Arduin

Arduin

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Quote:
Originally Posted by upier View Post
You probably mean 80 for 100k rather than a stack of picks for 80k.
That'd be more correct, yes

chaosincarnate87

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Behind You ;)

DPR

lockpicks... start chest running, 4 account wide titles done in one fell swoop... good for when you're really bored.

-edit: saying this as i assume you have filled your hall of monuments with the necessary items and just ran outta crap to buy.

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

If you plan to keep maxing out your platinum then buy high end miniatures and let the ptraders do what they do best. Entry is steep but once you break in you make money just by having patience and letting the item gather dust.

Barrage

Barrage

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Join Date: May 2008

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Grey Dyes fairly consistent imo

Mini Vizu

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I store all my money in red rock candy.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Armbraces are even more risky than ectos as DoA is still easily farmable, it's just the matter of the players population's focus shifting to it (a PuG friendly version of build with good explanations getting high publicity may cause it) and they can drop hard. Ectos despite trader values getting large variations are actually more stable than most think, but chances are they will drop like 10% from current price and then stabilize.

Lockpicks have always worked because their price in gold is practically fixed - I have used them to avoid major losses in massive ecto fluctuations, but if you want to store value in them for a longer time, there comes the problem of gold inflation - for at least a year now gold has been steadily losing value (buying power) and so every means of storing value denominated in gold were also losing real value (although their price in gold remains the same).

If you want to buy expensive items in the future it's probably a good decision to start buying ectos even now if you find them at the lower end of price range, because you will eventually need them anyway to buy anything worth over 100k.

Recommendation: store 25-30% of your wealth in ectos. Diversify the rest.

c1team

c1team

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Homelands

Quote:
Originally Posted by Risus View Post
Cons are due to be nerfed so they will be 40k/cons instead of 8k/cons so use ectos.
Can you provide the info on this please.

QueenofDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugs Not Drugs View Post
Well, I've maxed out both my Xunlai Accounts, but want to keep going, but dont have enough space. What is the best item to store all that cash in. I know ectos, zkeys, and lockpicks are common, but neither of them sound appealing because:

ectos keep jumping up and down in price, and its only a matter of time before a new SC is found, and they drop back to 4k

zkeys are hard to buy and sell for 5k, but they seem the most appealing to me right now

lockpicks are hard to sell

what are your thoughts?
The whole idea origionally was to not allow hoarding of any type in a safe manner. That is why there is the 100,000 gold limit per character an unless you are willing to shell out $10 a pop for extra character slots you are pretty limited in actual safe cash to 1,400,000 or so if you only own one chapter. I own all 3 and can accumulate 2,000,000 max safe cash. The rest is setup for investments either buying up hopeful sellable goods like ectos, zkeys, lockpicks, gems and rare items like armbraces, destroyer and/or tormenter weapons. Other investments into titles by buying sweets and alcohol and unidentified gold drops etc.

Myself I prefer zkeys as they maintain a pretty good market value and if worse comes to worse they also have an intrinsic value by turning them into the z-chest and possibly getting a rare drop from it worth 100's of thousands as well. Ectos are only valueable if someone wants Elite FOW armors or for easy trading for highend goods like tormentor or destroyer weapons and/or the silly mini pets. (Mini pets was the most stupid idea ever implemented into the game because they have no use in the game whatsoever just another vainity item.)

As the game life grows in years everything will become less and less wanted or needed and of course everything will die in value. I went back and played Everquest after 5 years away from it an it being well over 10 years old now and prices have dropped to all time lows for many of the popular items when the game was fresh and new. It's still the same boring sit & pull game it always was. I would have thought they would have improved it over the years to be more like GW in moving around. I'm afraid GW2 is going to turn into a sit & pull game like EQ with the persistant world they are building for it.

Also if Anet hadn't of implemented inscriptions the economy would be flourshing still as it wouldn't be so easy to get that max perfect item like it is now. It's so easy now I have nearly all my characters heroes decked out with the best max perfect items out there. Players would be wanting to buy something else besides just tormenter or destroyer weapons and greens would be easier to sell and at higher prices too. It's too bad they turned this game into a Romper Room type game.

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

Spend some money on extra accounts. Not only is it additional storage, but it's also a gold sink.

Of course, it's also a pretty egregious violation of the EULA, but anet doesn't care, right?

Neo Atomisk

Neo Atomisk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post
Spend some money on extra accounts. Not only is it additional storage, but it's also a gold sink.

Of course, it's also a pretty egregious violation of the EULA, but anet doesn't care, right?
since when was having multiple accounts a violation of the EULA? o_o

Angelus...

Angelus...

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Webel Wising [wawr]

sell your money for IRL money and win

Axeman002

Axeman002

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2008

A/Mo

spend it...even asian pets are worthless next year once this Beta is released

i would just buy lockpicks and open every chest in sight...does 3-4 titles in 1 go treasure/wisdom/lucky/unlucky

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugs Not Drugs View Post
Well, I've maxed out both my Xunlai Accounts, but want to keep going, but dont have enough space. What is the best item to store all that cash in. I know ectos, zkeys, and lockpicks are common, but neither of them sound appealing because:

ectos keep jumping up and down in price, and its only a matter of time before a new SC is found, and they drop back to 4k

zkeys are hard to buy and sell for 5k, but they seem the most appealing to me right now

lockpicks are hard to sell

what are your thoughts?
Dude, just buy stuff with it.. go all out and deck your characters out in the best looking gear. What are you trying to achieve with two accounts packed with money?

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Put them in mule account(s).

byteme!

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

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Spend it..............unless you want them rare asian mini's in which case I'd say your endeavor is futile at this late stage of GW.

Mini Vizu

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2010

I forgot to mention, elite sin tomes are an amazing storage device. You can easily get them for 1k each.