Obey or Dismantle
Ariovist Lynxkind
First one, I will give you that.
How did the Mursaat know that Khilbron was the Lich? I mean, he had a lot of people fooled up until the end. There is a chance that they could have handed it over, not knowing.
The only sacrifice that is good is in the act of kicking their ass and shutting them down, not being shady and killing those who didn't volunteer.
Lets see, we killed the Lich, which closed one door, wiped out the titans that came through, then went through Elona into the Realm of Torment and finished the job on the other side. I would say that is pretty permanent. Or, at least a lot more permanent than sitting on our hands and sacrificing some others every so often to save our own asses
Actually, no, they didnt keep the titans from killing people. a little thing called the searing is proof of that. I will however give the royal family fleeing part, though technically Salma wasn't part of the royal family at that point
The Mursaat were more powerful than the Charr too, hence the Charr's defeat. The Charr aren't the kind of race to take one setback and walk away, evidence being how long they wailed at the wall till the Titans helped them out, and I doubt the Titans would have sent the Charr to Kryta without some kind of help, so the Mursaat must have had enough power to take on the Titans themselves.
I am wrong? The amount of undead is only limited by the corpses. With the kind of power the Mursaat had they would have limited the casualties and I am pretty sure got close to exhausting corpses to the point where the undead would have to rely on 1 or 2 bodies a day, if lucky. And now you also bring to light the one thing with the Mursaat that is everything wrong about them: they were too worried about their own asses because of some prophecy rather than doing something to actually fix it that the prophecy actually came about.
Given their activities of late, yeah I would say the Mantle are pretty corrupt.
I wont lie, the Mursaat did some good deeds, but their real motive was to cover their own asses cause of the Flameseeker Prophecies. They chose to accept it and manipulate others to try and put it off rather than face it and try and change their destiny.
As for the Mantle, instead of coming clean about their 'gods' (after they found out) they have tried to use fear to assert their waning dominance. If they had have taken the former route, I would respect them, as would the people of Kryta I think, but their choice to take the heavy handed approach is what makes me cheer on the Shining Blade
How did the Mursaat know that Khilbron was the Lich? I mean, he had a lot of people fooled up until the end. There is a chance that they could have handed it over, not knowing.
The only sacrifice that is good is in the act of kicking their ass and shutting them down, not being shady and killing those who didn't volunteer.
Lets see, we killed the Lich, which closed one door, wiped out the titans that came through, then went through Elona into the Realm of Torment and finished the job on the other side. I would say that is pretty permanent. Or, at least a lot more permanent than sitting on our hands and sacrificing some others every so often to save our own asses
Actually, no, they didnt keep the titans from killing people. a little thing called the searing is proof of that. I will however give the royal family fleeing part, though technically Salma wasn't part of the royal family at that point
The Mursaat were more powerful than the Charr too, hence the Charr's defeat. The Charr aren't the kind of race to take one setback and walk away, evidence being how long they wailed at the wall till the Titans helped them out, and I doubt the Titans would have sent the Charr to Kryta without some kind of help, so the Mursaat must have had enough power to take on the Titans themselves.
I am wrong? The amount of undead is only limited by the corpses. With the kind of power the Mursaat had they would have limited the casualties and I am pretty sure got close to exhausting corpses to the point where the undead would have to rely on 1 or 2 bodies a day, if lucky. And now you also bring to light the one thing with the Mursaat that is everything wrong about them: they were too worried about their own asses because of some prophecy rather than doing something to actually fix it that the prophecy actually came about.
Given their activities of late, yeah I would say the Mantle are pretty corrupt.
I wont lie, the Mursaat did some good deeds, but their real motive was to cover their own asses cause of the Flameseeker Prophecies. They chose to accept it and manipulate others to try and put it off rather than face it and try and change their destiny.
As for the Mantle, instead of coming clean about their 'gods' (after they found out) they have tried to use fear to assert their waning dominance. If they had have taken the former route, I would respect them, as would the people of Kryta I think, but their choice to take the heavy handed approach is what makes me cheer on the Shining Blade
Nerel
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How did the Mursaat know that Khilbron was the Lich? I mean, he had a lot of people fooled up until the end. There is a chance that they could have handed it over, not knowing.
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The only sacrifice that is good is in the act of kicking their ass and shutting them down, not being shady and killing those who didn't volunteer.
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As for killing the Lich and ending the threat once and for all... really? Where is the Scepter of Orr now? Another threat could rise up and take possession of the dread artifact and the prophecies could yet be fulfilled, all due to the bumblings of some Shining Blade dolts... Thank you for putting the world in even greater peril.
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Lets see, we killed the Lich, which closed one door, wiped out the titans that came through, then went through Elona into the Realm of Torment and finished the job on the other side. I would say that is pretty permanent. Or, at least a lot more permanent than sitting on our hands and sacrificing some others every so often to save our own asses
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And yes, the Shining Blade are the 'wrong hands' as they've already demonstrated before... imagine the harm those scum will wreak with it next time, if it should fall into the hands of Livia or her fellow terrorists!
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Actually, no, they didnt keep the titans from killing people. a little thing called the searing is proof of that. I will however give the royal family fleeing part, though technically Salma wasn't part of the royal family at that point
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The Mursaat were more powerful than the Charr too, hence the Charr's defeat. The Charr aren't the kind of race to take one setback and walk away, evidence being how long they wailed at the wall till the Titans helped them out, and I doubt the Titans would have sent the Charr to Kryta without some kind of help, so the Mursaat must have had enough power to take on the Titans themselves.
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I am wrong? The amount of undead is only limited by the corpses. With the kind of power the Mursaat had they would have limited the casualties and I am pretty sure got close to exhausting corpses to the point where the undead would have to rely on 1 or 2 bodies a day, if lucky. And now you also bring to light the one thing with the Mursaat that is everything wrong about them: they were too worried about their own asses because of some prophecy rather than doing something to actually fix it that the prophecy actually came about.
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Given their activities of late, yeah I would say the Mantle are pretty corrupt.
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I wont lie, the Mursaat did some good deeds, but their real motive was to cover their own asses cause of the Flameseeker Prophecies. They chose to accept it and manipulate others to try and put it off rather than face it and try and change their destiny.
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As for the Mantle, instead of coming clean about their 'gods' (after they found out) they have tried to use fear to assert their waning dominance. If they had have taken the former route, I would respect them, as would the people of Kryta I think, but their choice to take the heavy handed approach is what makes me cheer on the Shining Blade
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That our Gods are the reason why Kryta survived the Charr ravages, while Ascalon clung to the worship of false Gods, and fell to the beasts? We all know that!
That our Gods give us the strength and guidance to resist the Undead Hordes that spill from the very city heathens claim that their' Gods' dwelt in? We all know that as well!
That our Gods watch over and protect us, even from such far reaching and insidious evils as the machinations of the former Vizier of Orr? While the Shining Blade and it's supporters actively assist those who would destroy Tyria and rule over the ashes? Yes, you're right, every child should be taught that FACT from the youngest age.
Perhaps the Shining Blade should admit the truth about their false Gods and end this violence fueled by their heathen beliefs? Your False Gods do nothing to stop the undead hordes, and it may indeed be the worship of these false Godlings that gave rise to the undead horde that sprouts from Arah?
What did your false Gods do to stop the Ascension of the Lich to the Doors of Komalie? Absolutely nothing, which is understandable considering that they're imaginary beings... you cannot deny the existence of the Unseen ones.
Calling out to the false Gods of old did what to repel the Charr from Ascalon? Nothing at all! When Kryta heeded the words of the Unseen ones, it was spared from the Charr hordes, and has remained so under their benevolent all seeing gaze.
Yes, some Truths do need to be told. Cast down your false Gods and Obey the Unseen Ones.
PS: It's getting cold, somebody throw another heathen on the fire.
drkn
gods gods gods... reminds me d&d, where the player is the ultimate god-slayer in the end. after all, we've slaughtered enough mursaat so they're nearly extinct now. superb powerful 'gods'.
Quail Stomp
Obey the Mantle or suffer.
Morphy
PvE content and characters without a proper background story are being recycled to make the game seem less dead and to probably cash in a bit on new costumes.
Who cares?
Who cares?
Quail Stomp
Yeah i would have rather seen some pvp content but we know that will not happen. Just talk some junk and pretend its early factions with kurz and lux just starting to go at each other.
Wefta
Well there are some of us who like it.. so maybe keep those negative comments to yourselves next time, yeah?
oh and btw i doubt that anet is gonna add more pvp when gw2 is nearly out.
oh and btw i doubt that anet is gonna add more pvp when gw2 is nearly out.
Morphy
Anakita Snakecharm
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PvE content and characters without a proper background story are being recycled to make the game seem less dead and to probably cash in a bit on new costumes. Who cares? |
If you don't care, that's fine. You do not need to read about it, play it, or theorize about it.
It just comes off as a bit sour grapes to suggest that because you don't care, no one should. Why not just let us have our fun? It doesn't harm you any.
Wefta
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Well, the thirteen page thread (and the matching one at GW2 Guru with over 200 pages) would seem to suggest that some people do.
If you don't care, that's fine. You do not need to read about it, play it, or theorize about it. It just comes off as a bit sour grapes to suggest that because you don't care, no one should. Why not just let us have our fun? It doesn't harm you any. |
Morphy
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Well, the thirteen page thread (and the matching one at GW2 Guru with over 200 pages) would seem to suggest that some people do.
If you don't care, that's fine. You do not need to read about it, play it, or theorize about it. It just comes off as a bit sour grapes to suggest that because you don't care, no one should. Why not just let us have our fun? It doesn't harm you any. |
Anakita Snakecharm
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Does it harm you any if I complain about it anyway? I'm just that kind of person. |
Then I felt like a jerk for laughing at you, so I thought I'd mention how your comment might be perceived with irony in light of the thread you posted it on.
Ariovist Lynxkind
Kook~NBK~
I wonder.... With all this "War in Tyria" stuff" going on, will we find out what Livia does with the Scepter of Orr?
a-kyle
How do you get involved in this "war"?
chessyang
a-kyle
I have beat prophecies and eye of the north will never be beat for me cause its so freaking hard. BUT - if you beat prophecies is there a way to still take part?
Kook~NBK~
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I have beat prophecies and eye of the north will never be beat for me cause its so freaking hard. BUT - if you beat prophecies is there a way to still take part?
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Stuff going on in EotN (trial) = Only have to complete EotN
Stuff going on between Gwen & Thackery = Either Complete EotN OR have completed the Wintersday quests.
The Only Warrior
OBEY!, srsly, youll regret it, just give in, stop fighting. The mantle? no, OBEY ME!
Dagoth Umbra
Anyone know if the bodies of the White Mantle cut down with arrows can be found in the explorable area Nebo Terrace?
Phaern Majes
DISMANTLE!!! Salma is Queen! Disperse and live while you still can.
Anakita Snakecharm
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Anyone know if the bodies of the White Mantle cut down with arrows can be found in the explorable area Nebo Terrace? |
Since I've not had any trouble seeing any other spawns for this plotline, I suspect they are not really there to see.
IC, I assume the White Mantle removed their comrades' remains as soon as they heard.
Morvydd
I've been looking for the bodies of the White Mantle as well. No luck either.
BenjZee
I assume those bodies hes talking about are one of those spawn events that was added, as in the mantle try beating up that farmer above bergon hot springs and you kill them.
Gill Halendt
A question: are the encounters with the Peacekeepers repeatable?
Once I've seen a scene involving them, is it possible for them to spawn again and repeat it, or the scene is disabled - a bit like the Thackeray dialogues with Gwen in the HoM - ?
Once I've seen a scene involving them, is it possible for them to spawn again and repeat it, or the scene is disabled - a bit like the Thackeray dialogues with Gwen in the HoM - ?
Kook~NBK~
The encounters are repeatable.
St??phane Lo Presti
Little precision about this, already posted by Regina on her wiki page:
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War in Kryta - Repeating Content? The community team has noticed a few questions floating around regarding the new bits of content, and whether they're repeatable, so I'd like to clarify these issues. The encounters between Peacekeepers and Krytans appear to be on-going, and as aggression between Peacekeepers and Krytans increase, you may encounter them more than once. However, specific moments may be shown to your character only once. The Trial of Zinn is viewable once per character. If you are in a party with another player who hasn't see the trial, you will get to see it again, even if you are playing on a character that has already seen it. And of course, you can always watch it on another character that has not seen it yet. The plan for these updates is to be a continuation of the game's story, so that it will be available to people who play in the future. |
Gill Halendt
So far, the non-repeatable scenes I've encountered are:
- The Trial of Zinn, mentioned above
- The dialogue at the Dakutu Village between Salma and the Shining Blade Scout reporting the killing of Nora
- The Trial of Zinn, mentioned above
- The dialogue at the Dakutu Village between Salma and the Shining Blade Scout reporting the killing of Nora
Mintha Syl
I think this encounter wasn't posted yet, sorry if I just didn't notice.
I was fighting some random group (not peacekeepers and not even any in sight) just outside Beetletun when I saw them helping me out.
Then they followed us. Funny!
(Also, I think she she my sword is yours as she didn't need it as she used a bow )
I was fighting some random group (not peacekeepers and not even any in sight) just outside Beetletun when I saw them helping me out.
Then they followed us. Funny!
(Also, I think she she my sword is yours as she didn't need it as she used a bow )
Kosar The Cruel
I say Obey and follow blindly!
AbaddonReborn
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Storyline, simple as that. If it wasnt already known that the Blade wins out and Salma becomes queen, it would be okay to choose, but since it is already determined, it makes sense to put them as hostile.
Not to mention the fact they hate our guts for killing their inner council and revealing their gods to be fake |