Inscribed Chakram Dye question

Hi

I want a 20/20 Inscribed Chakram (metal version)) for my mesmer. However I want to dye it white (or maybe black and go for the greenie, but prefer white) and wiki stated that loot does not come dyeable (QQ there goes my goldie epeen):

Now I want to get one from the collectors or weapon smiths (prefer weapon smith as I prefer paying 5k then spending time on something crappy ). How do I know if the one that is gotten from that collector/weapon smith is dyeable or not? As wiki clearly stated: only affects certain collectors and weaponsmiths. Is there anyone who knows a list of dyeable and non dyeable collectors? Or can confirm just one that has a dyeable 20/20? I know I can just go and find out by collecting the items, but thought I could save some time here So if anyone can help, apriciated

EDIT: I think the same rule goes for the Divine Symbol (loop version), so if anyone can confirm at which collectors those dye, would be an answer too. Probably other caster offhands too then.

I read somewhere that Faction weaponsmith items cannot be dyed, but Faction collector items can.

That should narrow down your list a bit

EDIT: I'd try this guy if I were you: http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Axton

hmm, i can not dye my Mesmer collector focus items i got in Factions (Canthan mainland).
None of those were 20/20 focus items though.
So, that is more confusing if some Factions collector items can be dyed and others not.

Interesting you should ask!

I used to think that the core-skin offhands from Prophecies and Factions collectors (like metal-skin "Inscribed Chakrams") might dye while loot versions would never dye.

Recently, I've found there are at least some cases where inscribable loot versions will dye!

It's been driving me nuts, so I'm keeping track of all sorts of stuff like this on a new wiki project page
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...kin_Dyeability

Now, as to your specific question
- I have a collector 20/20 Inscribed Chakram that will dye. I've had it for years, but I'm almost positive I got it from one of the collectors in the Crystal Desert because I always got my 20/20 collector offhands out there.
- I got a collector Flame Artifact from EotN with +30 and an inscription slot a year or so ago. That one dyed, so maybe EotN collectors are a good place to try, too.
- You most certainly can get inscribable, loot versions that will dye! I have some in my own collection, and I have sold a spare to another player through one of my sale threads here. The trick is shopping for them! There are tons of sale threads with them for sale, but you have to sit around PMing each seller asking them to dye test stuff for you.

Now, one more factor for you
- If you get a dyeable one, how it dyes might not match what's on wiki's dye chart. On wiki, yellow dye seems to make it greenish. When I dye tested one of my loot versions, yellow dye made it look the default, undyed color. (Yellow dye on the collector version makes it greenish.) I haven't gotten around to making dye-chart-comparison pictures for these yet, but if you look at the Holy Rod section on that project page I linked above, you can see another case where there are two different ways dye might affect an otherwise identical weapon skin.

Yes, this is driving me even more nuts than I was already, and yes, I'm beginning to suspect some dev at ANet of doing this on purpose to torment us. If you're reading this, I certainly hope you're enjoying yourself! Hrmph!

Cheers,
Luny