Ideas on drunkard title/discussion

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Mar 25, 2010 06:41 AM
Terrible Surgeon

So title with double point weekends are worthless?
No, weekends with double point bonus are not worthless but they don't have to become worthless either.
There are give or take 7 major festivals during which you get loads of alcohol, then there is nicholas with his alcohol and collectors that trade you alcohol for items and now you suggest a double alcohol bonus weekend ?

As mentioned before, doing the titles is not mandatory, if you don't like them or if they don't suit your ideas or wishes then don't do them.

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There are give or take 7 major festivals during which you get loads of alcohol, then there is nicholas with his alcohol and collectors that trade you alcohol for items and now you suggest a double alcohol bonus weekend ?
Yeah , i bet he conviniently forgot that and still call other ppl reasons weak when his only reasons to want a double drunkard points are "why not" and "i want my title faster" .... but hey , so unfair SS/LB has a double point gain weekend huh ?.

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So title with double point weekends are worthless? Becasue thats all this thread is about. If some but not all titles have double point weekends that's not right. Plus would be awesome to see 1k people in gtob dis all drunk.
Well, imo... Yes. Drunkard title isn't hard to get; it's just time consuming. Everyone knows that.


But, being able to bot/zone-exploit it has made the title even more prestigeless and that is why a weekend event would kill the even more. I am not for or against the idea of said event... I just feel that it would further reduce Dunkard of the very small amount of prestige it has left.



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Well, imo... Yes. Drunkard title isn't hard to get; it's just time consuming. Everyone knows that.


But, being able to bot/zone-exploit it has made the title even more prestigeless and that is why a weekend event would kill the even more. I am not for or against the idea of said event... I just feel that it would further reduce Dunkard of the very small amount of prestige it has left.



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yeah you're right. But to people who did not know or do not know how to "exploit" by zoning and botting and other crap it's like any other double point weekend. A title is a title, they all are the same when it comes to getting gwamm. Some titles make skills better in pve other skills have no effect whatsoever on game play. Either way, its just an idea and not going to kill the game anymore than what it already is if it happened.

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Yeah , i bet he conviniently forgot that and still call other ppl reasons weak when his only reasons to want a double drunkard points are "why not" and "i want my title faster" .... but hey , so unfair SS/LB has a double point gain weekend huh ?.
LoL still trolling for fun i see. Well like i said before you cant quote me saying i want my title faster. Also, i gave reasons other than "why not" like many titles have double point weekends regardless of the effect of the title on game play or whether it was account wide. Get a life and stop trolling.

Mod Edit: Stop double posting; start using the Edit button.

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Either way, its just an idea and not going to kill the game anymore than what it already is if it happened.
This I agree with very much.

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LoL still trolling for fun i see. Well like i said before you cant quote me saying i want my title faster.
Lmao. You realise that all ppl with a brain read in your posts is "i want my title faster" , "why not" and no" blarf blarf if you dont agree you are a troll blarf" ? . You dont even understand that those " " dont mean EXACT quote lol.

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Also, i gave reasons other than "why not" like many titles have double point weekends regardless of the effect of the title on game play or whether it was account wide. Get a life and stop trolling.
No you didnt give any , "because there are other double weekends" is not a valid reason. Drunkard , Sweet and Party DO HAVE weekends where points drop there for FREE. Ofc you have to "farm" them but as in double glad points weekends, they dont give it to you for free , you have to play the game .

Get a clue and stop asking for things you want just because you want them. Like everyone knows , is not a hard title at all , and since they ALREADY HAVE weekends with alcohol drops , not needed at all .

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How about this: Have a double drunkard points weekend to celebrate when they fix the double-helix portal marker for Foible's Fair in Pre-Searing?

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I've been holding onto a ton of ale, because I want the title, but just haven't had the time to actually do it.

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I am trying to understand what the double drunk weekend would entail;

Each minute equals two minutes, clicking every minute, or clicking every two minutes on a one minute drink? (same scenario for the five minute drinks.)

Or maybe clicking every thirty seconds for a one minute drink?

Sounds a bit difficult to implement.

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but hey , so unfair SS/LB has a double point gain weekend huh ?.
Tell me about it Tene. Exactly one week after I ground my guts out maxing SS the non-double-points-weekend way...

I'd sign this for sure if the OP was only wanting the drunkard title made account wide, never could see the reason for it to be per toon, once is certainly bad enough, but double points for something u pay for is just cheaping it up.

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Sorry but disagree here - the challenge in the Drunkard title is collecting the alcohol, not drinking it. As many have said in this post already, especially relating to the fact is now so much easier to collate the items than previously before.

I wish I could find Gaile's post confirming that using a bot clicker is acceptable, since this is a way of making your title progression easier. Otherwise, play drunk while working on other titles. It seriously is not difficult.

Plus, if this was to happen, logically Sweet and Party would also be changed.

The ONLY thing that the drunkard title needs is a graphical timer, which should have been done globally when they did the Grog one.

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Actually.... His post was completely relevant and on-topic. He is merely saying that people keep asking for less grind less grind and that is going to take whatever prestige there is left in titles and make them "boring and worthless".
What comes to mind when you think of a prestigious title in guild wars?

HA, GvG, Glad, GWAMM? These are the only titles that i can think of that hold prestige. Drunkard title is a bad grind, and hardly what i would call prestigious unless u consider standing around double clicking skillful. It reqs gold to buy the alcohol if you're not a farmer. It reqs 10k minutes of "standing around" unless u know how to abuse the zoning....OR BOT..which means u risk a ban. Yeah its a little excessive on the grinding end of titles.

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Yeah i hate that portal in pre..but its pre....so who cares?
Notice how each post in a topic has a number? Look at post #56, and who posted it. Ok, now that you have done that, look at post #49, and at the bottom of it, the red colored text. Read that red text. Now, one more time, look at post #39. Notice the red text again? See a pattern here? I'd recommend you stop drinking in real life and pay attention to what is being said to you. Obviously you can't see a blatant offense being pointed out, and a mod asking you to stop making that offense. And obviously to us, you can't see why there is no problem with the drunkard title. Alcohol is easy to get, in multiple ways. Alcohol is easy to use, in multiple ways.

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ftl. It's not a hard title to max, just need some cash, knowledge on how to do the mapping thing, or just playing alot. It's one of the easiest titles to max, just takes a little while. No need to make it cheaper and less time investing needed. It's simple enough as is.
The mapping thing is not playing the game as intended thus it's an exploit and thus it's bannable. It's in the RoC you can't exploit the game and they can ban you if they want.

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Notice how each post in a topic has a number? Look at post #56, and who posted it. Ok, now that you have done that, look at post #49, and at the bottom of it, the red colored text. Read that red text. Now, one more time, look at post #39. Notice the red text again? See a pattern here? I'd recommend you stop drinking in real life and pay attention to what is being said to you. Obviously you can't see a blatant offense being pointed out, and a mod asking you to stop making that offense. And obviously to us, you can't see why there is no problem with the drunkard title. Alcohol is easy to get, in multiple ways. Alcohol is easy to use, in multiple ways.
TROLL more please, that was march. DID you look at the date? NO!!! Magma u are the biggest troll on these forums (awards gold medal). I look at ur posts, all trolls.

Ok, so u are telling people to exploit the game by using alcohol in an unintended way? If so you may be telling people to risk a ban. NO MORE alcohol bots, zoning the map is an exploit, it may no be detectable but it still is an exploit.

Not everyone farms magma..u do realize this right? So...if u farm and get a ton of alcohol "easily" give it here please...other wise lone me the gold to buy it...

Drunkard is a dumb RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing grind and it reqs no skill to get. I just dont have 10k mins to sit on my RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing chair and double click..and a lot of people feel the same. DUB DRUNK POINT WEEKEND FTW.

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I just dont have 10k mins to sit on my RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing chair and double click..and a lot of people feel the same.
You just said you don't have 10,000 minutes to play the game. Why the hell do you even care about this title?

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You just said you don't have 10,000 minutes to play the game. Why the hell do you even care about this title?
No, i don't have 10k minutes to dub click a stack of firewater. I get on and play.

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I'm not trying to be a total beeyotch, but there's absolutely no reason why you can't drink while you play. Many of us have done it. Blurry screen is annoying? Turn off post-process effects.

You started this thread in March and it's almost June. If you really wanted this title, you probably could have already maxed it... twice.

There is absolutely no reason why we need a double drunkard point weekend.

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TROLL more please, that was march. DID you look at the date? NO!!! Magma u are the biggest troll on these forums (awards gold medal). I look at ur posts, all trolls.

Ok, so u are telling people to exploit the game by using alcohol in an unintended way? If so you may be telling people to risk a ban. NO MORE alcohol bots, zoning the map is an exploit, it may no be detectable but it still is an exploit.

Not everyone farms magma..u do realize this right? So...if u farm and get a ton of alcohol "easily" give it here please...other wise lone me the gold to buy it...

Drunkard is a dumb RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing grind and it reqs no skill to get. I just dont have 10k mins to sit on my RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing chair and double click..and a lot of people feel the same. DUB DRUNK POINT WEEKEND FTW.
Sad. I really feel sorry for you if you believe that. I have Incorrigible Ale Hound. I never used a bot, auto clicker, or even a stop watch. You can drink while sitting in town buying/selling things. You can drink while talking with friends, planning teams for ANYTHING, or while sitting on 9 Rings if you don't got afk. You can turn off the Post-Processing Effects and drink while you play. Skills like Dwarven Stabilityy, Drunken Master, and Feel No Pain are designed to function better when drunk, so take some alcohol with you when PLAYING and using those skills. Just keep the title menu open and use more when the time advances, or.... heaven forbid, learn the changes in the screen distortion and leave the Post Processing Effects turned on.

It is 167 hours. Long time for sure, but certainly not hard. With 52 weeks in a year, if you play for 2 hours a week it would take a little over 3 years. But I doubt many people play so little. And if you are not playing enough, then don't worry about getting the title. You won't come close enough to getting GWAMM, so another title won't be much use.

Now, about farming and acquiring alcohol..... lawl. I don't farm anything but Nick collectables. Yet I get drops during weekend events like Easter and St. Patricks Day. I also get items from PLAYING the game like Kournan Coins, Battle Commendations, Imperial Commendations. And those items have collectors that give Hunters Ale in exchange for 1 of them. And there is also a collector in Vabbi that gives alcohol for Sentient Spores. Oh, and Nick in Pre gives 5 Hunters Ale or 5 Aged Hunters Ale for each gift he gives, and Nick in post does the same. Since you seem so anti farming, and Nick is all I farm, perhaps it will help you understand the simplicity of this when I tell you I can complete a Nick farm in one day, usually with 1 hour. I have never purchased the items or presents, and only skipped the Nick gifts a handful of times due to the difficulty of acquiring the item and time required.

Alcohol is easy to get FOR FREE. I give all my alcohol away. GIVE IT AWAY. It is so easy, and I get so much, and I do not need it anymore. So don't argue with me about how hard it is to get alcohol, you'll never convince me.

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TROLL more please, that was march. DID you look at the date? NO!!! Magma u are the biggest troll on these forums (awards gold medal). I look at ur posts, all trolls.

Ok, so u are telling people to exploit the game by using alcohol in an unintended way? If so you may be telling people to risk a ban. NO MORE alcohol bots, zoning the map is an exploit, it may no be detectable but it still is an exploit.

Not everyone farms magma..u do realize this right? So...if u farm and get a ton of alcohol "easily" give it here please...other wise lone me the gold to buy it...

Drunkard is a dumb RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing grind and it reqs no skill to get. I just dont have 10k mins to sit on my RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing chair and double click..and a lot of people feel the same. DUB DRUNK POINT WEEKEND FTW.
1: QueefOfDeath is the biggest troll on these forums
2: no one is putting a gun to your head making you do drunkard, so i don't see why you feel the need to complain about it when you don't need to max it to get gwamm.

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It is 167 hours. Long time for sure, but certainly not hard. With 52 weeks in a year, if you play for 2 hours a week it would take a little over 3 years. But I doubt many people play so little. And if you are not playing enough, then don't worry about getting the title. You won't come close enough to getting GWAMM, so another title won't be much use.
The time you put down (167hrs) does not include acquiring the alcohol to use. That time spent acquiring the alcohol needs to be considered into the total time spent on the title even though it is not included in the 10k minutes.


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1: QueefOfDeath is the biggest troll on these forums
2: no one is putting a gun to your head making you do drunkard, so i don't see why you feel the need to complain about it when you don't need to max it to get gwamm.
Yeah, this thread needs closed, i saw it was open still so i posted on it again...

TBH, to sum up what i learned from the thread..

Alcohol points awarded should match the level of the alcohol, this makes sense.
Maxing the title is pretty easy if you pve but pvpers have a harder time doing this.

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Alcohol points awarded should match the level of the alcohol, this makes sense.
Maxing the title is pretty easy if you pve but pvpers have a harder time doing this.
PvE title is hard to max in PvP? Who'd have thought it...

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Yep, cause loads of Firewater never comes from the Zaishen Chest, sitting in an outpost forming a team for HA or even GvG never takes time, and hell, you can't even drink while playing if in PvP because it doesn't work. Wait..... none of that is true.

As I said, alcohol is easy to obtain. You don't need to get all 10k minutes worth before you start drinking it. The quests that provide Imperial Commendations, etc. can be done while drinking the alcohol you got from turning in those rewards. And of course if you are playing during an event with drops, you should be getting even more.

I see I won't be able to explain this in a way you will understand though, so I'll stop trying.

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yep, cause loads of firewater never comes from the zaishen chest, sitting in an outpost forming a team for ha or even gvg never takes time, and hell, you can't even drink while playing if in pvp because it doesn't work. Wait..... None of that is true.

As i said, alcohol is easy to obtain. You don't need to get all 10k minutes worth before you start drinking it. The quests that provide imperial commendations, etc. Can be done while drinking the alcohol you got from turning in those rewards. And of course if you are playing during an event with drops, you should be getting even more.

I see i won't be able to explain this in a way you will understand though, so i'll stop trying.
i would love to see You max drunkard on a pvp only account ...do it then i'll stfu....no pve alcohol..only firewater acquired via the zchest...smartass...
MY GUESS IS U ARE A TOTAL PVE SCRUB AND GET STOMPED BY WAMMOS IN JADE QUARRY ...AND YOU CONSIDER FORT ASPENWOOD PVP...IF IM WRONG CORRECT ME..
BTW, you commenting by saying "i won't be able to explain this in a way you will understand"...wtf are you trying to say? Are you calling me too DUMB to understand you? Are you saying you are too intelligent to communicate with me, a lower life form? (Pimp slaps Magma) WAKE UP NOOB...this game was designed for pvp, pve makes anet money..i dont see UW speed clears on observe...do you?
With this in mind, you need to consider pvp players as well as players that only pve...and u reinforce my previous claim that ur just a troll on guru with this"ur too dumb for me to communicate with" crap u said. Also, how often do events last that drop alcohol in pve? How often do they occur? You make it sound like a weekly deal Magma...All you have done is shown your ignorance and one sidedness to the game. You are the queen of pve...

NO double drunkard point weekend..make lvl 5 alcohol reward 5 points on drunkard...make alcohol more accessible to pvp players besides a 5k firewater that dropped from the zchest....via a zkey, that sell for 5k....