apply codex arena rules to gvg
Terrible Surgeon
What if Anet made it so a limited number of skills were available to GvG on a daily basis? So meta was wrecked in GvG...i bet i'll see a lot of flames on this idea. Could be done easily and would be a huge change. I think it would enable new players and new to pvp players easy access to gvg rather than playing the meta builds. Plus, i imagine it would make the top guild a guild with the best skills vs best build.
Fallen22
i don't really like the idea, well it could lead to more versatility, but first in GvG You need to have 8 players precisely control their character and build if You want to win- this takes sometimes days until they learn at least to be average with their build, and for second You have that these 8 guys are used to each other and each other's build. If everyday everyone will play different build, that would be almost impossible. For that reason I don't think newbies will have better chance to get in GvG. Their best chance is to play and learn from mistakes.
GvG is the best in the way there is always some way to improve Your build or completely create new one(well there are these meta builds that works well, but no one forces You to play them, You can win with any other build if u play it better then enemy plays his)
GvG is the best in the way there is always some way to improve Your build or completely create new one(well there are these meta builds that works well, but no one forces You to play them, You can win with any other build if u play it better then enemy plays his)
lemming
I propose your name be changed to "Terrible Suggestion."
Ninja Ninja
Thats a pretty funny suggestion seeing as how much of a fail the Codex Arena is.
Marty Silverblade
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GvG is top level PvP. We don't need to put restrictions like this on it. That's what smaller ones are for. Besides, I hear codex is empty.
GvG is top level PvP. We don't need to put restrictions like this on it. That's what smaller ones are for. Besides, I hear codex is empty.
Terrible Surgeon
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Originally Posted by lemming
I propose your name be changed to "Terrible Suggestion."
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GvG is top level PvP. We don't need to put restrictions like this on it. That's what smaller ones are for. Besides, I hear codex is empty. |
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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja
Thats a pretty funny suggestion seeing as how much of a fail the Codex Arena is.
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Mod Edit: Yeah lets not triple post next time. You're always welcome to use that Edit Button. I know it must be hard to see it, but trust me its there.
kedde
Its still much easier to just play proper sealed deck with 16 people if you want this.
It certainly isn't fit for any reward so its a waste of time to make people play 16 shitty builds if they don't want to.
It certainly isn't fit for any reward so its a waste of time to make people play 16 shitty builds if they don't want to.
newbie_of_doom
I suppose you could add a SD option for GvG, but not replace the current GvG.
I wouldn't care though, I don't like SD^^
I hear GW is empty.
I wouldn't care though, I don't like SD^^
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GvG is top level PvP. We don't need to put restrictions like this on it. That's what smaller ones are for. Besides, I hear codex is empty. |
Shayne Hawke
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Originally Posted by Terrible Surgeon
Codex would be booming if it was designed to be a 1v1 arena.
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MagmaRed
It wouldn't even remove the GvG meta, it would just make it change as often as the skill selection changes. Codex already has about a 3 hour window before the meta is established for it. If you want to play GvG, then you need to learn how to play a role, and play it well. Find a guild that is willing to spend time developing a team and practicing with it. Doesn't even have to be the meta builds. But completely changing the way GvG works to be able to get in to the format is a horrible idea.
Perhaps, for future suggestions, spend time playing what you want to change, talking to other people playing it, and observing what is done there.
Perhaps, for future suggestions, spend time playing what you want to change, talking to other people playing it, and observing what is done there.
Warvic
haha! 
sorry but I don't like it at all. And people don't like codex.. So why would they like that.
sorry but I don't like it at all. And people don't like codex.. So why would they like that.
Jarge
Wow. I never thought I'd see someone so short sited.
Tell me mr OP, have you seen America District 1 Codex Arena on ANY day that's not Codex ZQuest day?
It's dead. Infact, I would go as far to say that it's actually got fewer people than the HB and TA that it "replaced".
Hell, even HA is getting fewer and fewer districts. I remember when HA was 4-5 districts all the time. Now it struggles to pack-out 3.
GvG is the only competitive pvp left in this dead game. And really - who cares about the "new" players? Nobody's "starting" to play this game anymore, not when there're newer "shinier" games out there.
The fact is, there are more options available than you realise. Clearly you aren't a competitive GvGer yourself, otherwise you would realise that there is more than just Balanced. Fact is, the community dictates their choice of fair, honourable and reasonably powered builds. There are options to play ridiculously overpowered gimmicks (Ohai 5x Seeping Wound), but the community doesn't take those options on the whole because it undermines fair and sportsmanlike gameplay.
Dude. Seriously. Just no.
Tell me mr OP, have you seen America District 1 Codex Arena on ANY day that's not Codex ZQuest day?
It's dead. Infact, I would go as far to say that it's actually got fewer people than the HB and TA that it "replaced".
Hell, even HA is getting fewer and fewer districts. I remember when HA was 4-5 districts all the time. Now it struggles to pack-out 3.
GvG is the only competitive pvp left in this dead game. And really - who cares about the "new" players? Nobody's "starting" to play this game anymore, not when there're newer "shinier" games out there.
The fact is, there are more options available than you realise. Clearly you aren't a competitive GvGer yourself, otherwise you would realise that there is more than just Balanced. Fact is, the community dictates their choice of fair, honourable and reasonably powered builds. There are options to play ridiculously overpowered gimmicks (Ohai 5x Seeping Wound), but the community doesn't take those options on the whole because it undermines fair and sportsmanlike gameplay.
Dude. Seriously. Just no.
Azure mist
Or just make 8 person codex ATs..... Zzzzzz still arena play but 8v8
Ninja Ninja
GvG has been in gw for over 4 years there's no need to change it now, besides this whole suggestion feels like change HA to codex all over again.
Lanier
Codex needs to be fixed first.
The problem with codex is that you cant take the randomization factor half-way, like Anet did. They made the skills available random, but the teams not. What Anet should have done, if they wanted to attract players who wanted to try something other than the meta of regular PvP, is to make teams random like in RA. Im sure the elitists in PvP would still not have liked it, but it would attract many of the casual PvPers who want more of a fun, laid-back and random environment.
The problem with codex is that you cant take the randomization factor half-way, like Anet did. They made the skills available random, but the teams not. What Anet should have done, if they wanted to attract players who wanted to try something other than the meta of regular PvP, is to make teams random like in RA. Im sure the elitists in PvP would still not have liked it, but it would attract many of the casual PvPers who want more of a fun, laid-back and random environment.
Kopa The Demon King
Why would you want to change one of the most succesfull forms of PvP to a pile of failure piece of shit like codex arena?
People would like it for a couple weks, then it would fall off the face of the earth....Honestly the only reason i know codex still exists is because I see the oupost on my map >_>
MAYBE....just MAYBE! if they added THE OPTION to play a codex style GvG against other codex type GvG's.....But again a waste of their time...Nobody would use it.
Honestly Meta may have ruined some GvG, but Ive found ways to worm the meta with under rated classes such as the dervish >__>
NOT TO MENTION! this would remove the fun of battling two guilds togeather it would be closed, unchooseable...in essence dumb.
People would like it for a couple weks, then it would fall off the face of the earth....Honestly the only reason i know codex still exists is because I see the oupost on my map >_>
MAYBE....just MAYBE! if they added THE OPTION to play a codex style GvG against other codex type GvG's.....But again a waste of their time...Nobody would use it.
Honestly Meta may have ruined some GvG, but Ive found ways to worm the meta with under rated classes such as the dervish >__>
NOT TO MENTION! this would remove the fun of battling two guilds togeather it would be closed, unchooseable...in essence dumb.
BaconSoda
To be honest, I'd be up for this idea. It is a lot more appealing to the average casual gamer. I don't like GvG because of all the rigidity of it currently, but, if the game changed everyday, it'd get rid of this kind of rigidity. Codex Arena was a win in my book, mostly because it's not dominated by people who crunch numbers for a great deal of time to simply play and game, and I would like this option open as well.
Terrible Surgeon
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Why would you want to change one of the most succesfull forms of PvP to a pile of failure piece of shit like codex arena?
People would like it for a couple weks, then it would fall off the face of the earth....Honestly the only reason i know codex still exists is because I see the oupost on my map >_> MAYBE....just MAYBE! if they added THE OPTION to play a codex style GvG against other codex type GvG's.....But again a waste of their time...Nobody would use it. Honestly Meta may have ruined some GvG, but Ive found ways to worm the meta with under rated classes such as the dervish >__> NOT TO MENTION! this would remove the fun of battling two guilds togeather it would be closed, unchooseable...in essence dumb. |
Reverend Dr
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[red resign could be dealt with]
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GvG is so dominated by meta teams that its hard for new gvg players to get a foot in the door.
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Yawgmoth
/signed ONLY for a special codex gvg AT like once a week so it can get some attendance. And reward some good Codex title points for wins and top places.
Andrew Dunne
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No it couldn't.
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Thats the 5 second solution.
The one minute solution is make it a game must last half of the points/time, (at least one of), and then RR seems pointless, (even if a team in HB say was to sacrifice itself and everything it would still take a while to RR, far longer than people would bother with ZQ gone).
Still Number One
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Dont want to particularly get involved but of course RR can be resolved, it ONLY existed once ZQ did.
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The only way RR gets resolved is if there is no reward at all besides enjoyment of the game. Meaning no title, no balth faction, nothing.
Regulus X
If you're wishing death on GvG, or are trying to derive flames and incite anger:
/SIGNED!
/SIGNED!
Terrible Surgeon
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Originally Posted by Jarge
Wow. I never thought I'd see someone so short sited.
Tell me mr OP, have you seen America District 1 Codex Arena on ANY day that's not Codex ZQuest day? It's dead. Infact, I would go as far to say that it's actually got fewer people than the HB and TA that it "replaced". Hell, even HA is getting fewer and fewer districts. I remember when HA was 4-5 districts all the time. Now it struggles to pack-out 3. GvG is the only competitive pvp left in this dead game. And really - who cares about the "new" players? Nobody's "starting" to play this game anymore, not when there're newer "shinier" games out there. The fact is, there are more options available than you realise. Clearly you aren't a competitive GvGer yourself, otherwise you would realise that there is more than just Balanced. Fact is, the community dictates their choice of fair, honourable and reasonably powered builds. There are options to play ridiculously overpowered gimmicks (Ohai 5x Seeping Wound), but the community doesn't take those options on the whole because it undermines fair and sportsmanlike gameplay. Dude. Seriously. Just no. |
lemming
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Either way, breaking meta would be good. Get the fatties up and make them think more about the builds to run...maybe make them incorporate some more tactics ad kiting instead of head on collisions. GvG is really boring stuff now. It seems to be a dump truck running over a Honda lately. GROSS!!!
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Ninja Ninja
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Codex Arena was a win in my book, mostly because it's not dominated by people who crunch numbers for a great deal of time to simply play and game, and I would like this option open as well.
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Dont want to particularly get involved but of course RR can be resolved, it ONLY existed once ZQ did, remove ZQ and wow look what happens, (its possible for the title but has been for years without people doing so on the whole, if you are that fussed to make it perfect remove title as well).
Thats the 5 second solution. The one minute solution is make it a game must last half of the points/time, (at least one of), and then RR seems pointless, (even if a team in HB say was to sacrifice itself and everything it would still take a while to RR, far longer than people would bother with ZQ gone). |
Regulus X
GvG and HA are both terrible: infested with rupt bots, guilds that resign for other guilds for champ points, elitists, ragers, finger-pointers, malicious pricks on a /kick-frenzy, intolerable fame-(double you)hores who think that a glowy animal animation's are going get them any form of respect.
I can't wait for the day when Anet officially pulls the plug on Guild Wars because it's degraded to an irreversible degree.
I can't wait for the day when Anet officially pulls the plug on Guild Wars because it's degraded to an irreversible degree.
jazilla
OP is trolling? /closethreadnow?