Thinking about buying the game

dreamer2008

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2010

N/E

I had in the back of my mind the idea of buying this game for a long time, but I was never sure if I should, my avarice level being quite high.

But now I am giving it a very serious thought to buy it, after starting to play the 10 free hours and seeing that although the game has quite a few years, the environment still looks great and the game seems fun to play.

The only things that makes me unsure is that I don't know if enough people play so at least I can find some to finish the main PvE missions, and second, with Guild Wars 2 coming soon I'm afraid that I will invest in a game world that will be abandoned. Is this fear correct?

In general I like to play PvE, and I heard that the story is great, the world huge and there are many beautiful places, so I am very tempted. Could you approximate in hours how much would it take to finish most of the secondary quests and the main quests in all the campaigns and the expansion?

Thank you!

Laraja

Laraja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Somewhere over the rainbow

Descendents of Honor

Rt/

Personally, I think the game is still worth buying. In my guild (a large active guild that was at once point guild of the month) we still have new people coming in and us old timers (although I'm not as old as some having only played this for 26 months) are more than happy to help the new people with missions, quests, builds, and very often giving common materials for armor, handing out weapons etc.... So the best way to play the game at this point is to find a guild almost immediately that doesn't mind and or likes helping new people. That way you can ask on alliance chat if someone can help with a mission or quest. PuGs (pick up groups) is an okay way to go, but during the week you'll have a hard time finding people, although on the weekends it's easier.

Although you'll get the usual people complaining about the game (I think in general they're probably whiners anyway), in my opinion Anet is doing a good job with it and I have no complaints. There are daily missions called Zaishen Missions, bounties and PvP areas that give money and coins that can be used to purchase cool items and there some kind of special activity going on every weekend.

So bottom line, the game is both gorgeous and fun and my advice is to find a guild that is friendly to newcomers and you'll enjoy the game a lot more.

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

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Originally Posted by dreamer2008 View Post
In general I like to play PvE, and I heard that the story is great, the world huge and there are many beautiful places, so I am very tempted. Could you approximate in hours how much would it take to finish most of the secondary quests and the main quests in all the campaigns and the expansion?
The storys in my opinion are...so/so...proph is just confusing if you run through it to fast...factions...well...factions was always intended to be a PvP oriented campaign(although my favorite storyline it seems many people view it as the worst as well as the most confusing area design).. Nightfall...Everyone loves nightfall...It has a great storyline...especially if you pay attention and have played the other campaigns first...EOTN...no comment...(although dragon age origins reminds me a ton of eotn xD )

They were correct in saying there is tons of amazing scenery in guild wars...in my mind I find nightfall to be the best for that specifically vabbi and the realm...


Now...hours...that's hard to say...With a good build and rushing each campaign can be done in 24 hours...however...being a new player (i.e. probably not the most efficient builds, not know shortcuts, getting lost in missions, and getting distracted by sites that most of us have seen hundereds of times) it will add a good bit of time onto that...not saying that it's bad as a matter of fact those were probably my favorite times playing guild wars...when I was completely oblivious xD... also....adding all the side quests will add tons of time as there are tons of side quests...not to mention the underworld fissure of Woe and DoA to keep you occupied...


These days though guild wars has become pretty much a single player Mmo if that makes sense...people tend to play with AI accompaniment rather then other players...the exception being z-quests (you'll figure these out later) some high end areas, and within guilds...The reasoning behind this is...the game is old...the game is expansive and such...so you have a somewhat dwindling player base spread out over a huge area... so you usually wont see other people doing what you are...

Guild wars 2 is "coming out"..."soon" (yeah...right....) no one really knows when though...while you might get unlucky and have them announce the beta the day after you buy the game...at least it's not a huge investment anymore...


Keep in mind when buying though...the game is old and the developers are all working on Guild Wars to...so content updates are few and far between and skill updates are...well...every half a year if they keep up with what they have been doing...

So...while the game is a great game...you may here many people pissed at anet (including myself) because of there lack of care anymore about the game...


Hope this helps...

Fedetic

Fedetic

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2010

The Netherlands

FoE

R/

If you worry about the number of people playing the game u won't be disapointed. It's true that it has less players compared to the last 2 years, but it still has a decent population

caballo_oscuro

caballo_oscuro

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

Aura

As you can see there's positive and negative opinions about this game.

As a new player you'll find tonnes to do, luckily though when you start playing, the gradient isn't too steep and as you get the hang of it, you will pretty soon be overwhelmed with skills and things to do. I've been playing for over 4 years and still loving the game.

Luckily there are resources to help you out. My advice would be to play the game as follows:

GuildWars (also called Prophecies)
Factions
Nightfall
Eye of the North.

This is the correct timeline of the storyline of the three campaigns and the expansion.

As you become more familiar with how the game works, you will learn how to utilise all the features available to you, but don't worry if you feel overwhelmed, you'll pretty soon be up to speed.

The levelling of Guildwars isn't all too important. The gradient is nice and slow for prophecies players, vey fast in factions and kindof in between for nightfall.

Don't worry though about hitting the level cap because the levelling is really just the initial learning experience. The game truly gets into gear only after you've hit level 20.

Once you've gone through the storylines, and all the side quests, there's bonus quests, elite missions, dungeons, mini games, special events and daily quests, and also the ability to play in hard mode, the hall of monuments, with titles related to these to keep you going.

If you take it nice and steady and enjoy the story/lore you're looking at hundreds or maybe thousands of hours of playtime if you play multiple characters.

And that's just the PvE side of it. There's also a pretty large PvP community still playing so get in and enjoy.

I'd recommend you get the complete collecion in one go as it's fairly cheap and gives you access to all the content. Good luck and enjoy!

snaek

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

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Originally Posted by dreamer 2008
with Guild Wars 2 coming soon I'm afraid that I will invest in a game world that will be abandoned.
1. i don't really consider 1-2 years "soon".
2. a lot of what you can earn in gw1 is transferable (in a metaphorical way) to gw2 via hall of monuments.
3. don't take my word for this, but from what i read it seemed to me that they want to keep gw1 and gw2 running simultaneously with updates to both. so abandoned? no. dead? most likely (although who's to say that gw1 isn't already dead?)

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

Guild Wars is not disappearing on the release of GW2. It will remain a different type of game from GW2 and retain a fan base. It is a great game, free-to-play, and far out surpasses other FTP games available.

You will have people tell you you can finish the game (all campaigns) in a week or less, but then you miss out on all the side quests, the add-ons to the story line, and the sheer beauty of some areas. As I said in a thread last week, I've been playing for over 4 years and still have plenty left to do.

The game is well worth the investment of cash and time.

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

Guild Wars 2 is not Guild Wars, it's a different game.

Guild Wars has a lot to love about it despite its age and how everyone rages at Anet.

Knowledge and skill makes a player valuable, not level and not so much profession (despite some PvE balance issues and one sided synergy pushed by Anet).

Worth the try.

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

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Originally Posted by Cuilan View Post
Knowledge and skill makes a player valuable, not level and not so much profession (despite some PvE balance issues and one sided synergy pushed by Anet).
This...I must disagree with...unless anet changes its ways only certain professions will be able to really pug anything... many professions are underpowered (compared of course to other professions...some would say that those professions are balanced and the others are overpowered). I.e. mesmers are widely considered to be unloved by anet...

Angela Sitsonit

Angela Sitsonit

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

the Netherlands

[AARP]

W/

Mar 29, 2010, 09:21 PM
snaek


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a lot of what you can earn in gw1 is transferable (in a metaphorical way) to gw2 via hall of monuments.
Did i miss an update on this ? How and what is going to be transferable ?

to my knowledge the whole HoM and it's contents is still kind of a vague subject of little or nothing is known in regards to GW2

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

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This...I must disagree with...
Well, a fair player can outperform a complete idiot in some (but not all) cases.

But you are correct and Anet indeed does have a very strong bias against certain professions. The next skill update will without a doubt have more mesmer, dervish, and paragon nerfs.

dreamer2008

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2010

N/E

Thank you for all the information. Since I don't know very well the classes and I am mostly interested in PvE maybe the whole idea of some classes being more "balanced" than others wouldn't affect me much, I think.

So, after seeing that the forums are still active and you people say that you still love the game after many years of playing, then the game is truly worth the money and the time, so I guess I'm gonna go buy the complete collection.

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

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Originally Posted by dreamer2008 View Post
So, after seeing that the forums are still active and you people say that you still love the game after many years of playing, then the game is truly worth the money and the time, so I guess I'm gonna go buy the complete collection.
These forums aren't active...they're all my alt accounts on here I use to have interesting arguments with myself...


but no really...we is here to ask...just remember to search before ya ask ;P

oooo and wiki is a wonderful utility wiki1 did ya know this forum seems to ignore multiple spaces? wiki2

WhiteAsIce

WhiteAsIce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

R/

GW now is relatively cheap, especially considering no monthly fees. Get one campaign, or get all, you should be able to enjoy it regardless. Having all campaigns used to be for the more serious player, since this gives your character the obvious advantage of having skills exclusive to a campaign. However, the complete set is cheap enough that even casual players will enjoy it.

snaek

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by angela sitsonit
Did i miss an update on this ? How and what is going to be transferable ?

to my knowledge the whole HoM and it's contents is still kind of a vague subject of little or nothing is known in regards to GW2
hence why i used the word 'metaphorically'--although perhaps, that is not the best word to use. 'figuratively' maybe? in other words, your hard work that you spent on getting that elite armour will be transferred over to gw2, just not the armour itself (like you said, no one knows exactly what the reward will be).


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Originally Posted by dreamer2008
Since I don't know very well the classes and I am mostly interested in PvE maybe the whole idea of some classes being more "balanced" than others wouldn't affect me much, I think.
depends on whether you like playing with other people or whether you like playing with henchies/heroes. but if i had to recommend something, it'd have to be monk.

dreamer2008

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2010

N/E

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Originally Posted by snaek View Post
depends on whether you like playing with other people or whether you like playing with henchies/heroes. but if i had to recommend something, it'd have to be monk.
The character that I always liked in many games was the necromancer, so I guess that I will play with him the first time, with secondary elementalist.

Neith

Neith

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

Texas

One in Guild Wars

R/

remember you get more then one slot when you buy the campaigns. Make your necro then try a melee character see which you like best. or make one of each. Then decide which you like best and use that one as your main character.

dreamer2008

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2010

N/E

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Originally Posted by Neith View Post
remember you get more then one slot when you buy the campaigns. Make your necro then try a melee character see which you like best. or make one of each. Then decide which you like best and use that one as your main character.
Okay, thanks for the advice, I think I will do that.

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

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Originally Posted by dreamer2008 View Post
Okay, thanks for the advice, I think I will do that.
Necro is a very good choice actually...wonderful capabilities based partially on a wonderful primary attribute...when you first look at it might not seem like much but in reality it is incredibly powerful...It's all about play style though so I as always recommend trying EVERYTHING at least once...see what you like and what works for you...

Autumn Crocus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2010

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Originally Posted by Falynn Firestorm View Post
Personally, I think the game is still worth buying. In my guild (a large active guild that was at once point guild of the month) we still have new people coming in and us old timers (although I'm not as old as some having only played this for 26 months) are more than happy to help the new people with missions, quests, builds, and very often giving common materials for armor, handing out weapons etc.... So the best way to play the game at this point is to find a guild almost immediately that doesn't mind and or likes helping new people. That way you can ask on alliance chat if someone can help with a mission or quest. PuGs (pick up groups) is an okay way to go, but during the week you'll have a hard time finding people, although on the weekends it's easier.

Although you'll get the usual people complaining about the game (I think in general they're probably whiners anyway), in my opinion Anet is doing a good job with it and I have no complaints. There are daily missions called Zaishen Missions, bounties and PvP areas that give money and coins that can be used to purchase cool items and there some kind of special activity going on every weekend.

So bottom line, the game is both gorgeous and fun and my advice is to find a guild that is friendly to newcomers and you'll enjoy the game a lot more.
Great reply! Yes, it's definitely worth buying, and there will still be lots of people around.

Hellmut34

Hellmut34

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2009

W/R

As a new player to the game i can make a resounding "Yes!" as the answer you are looking for.

Guild wars was a game i overlooked whilst i played P2P games like Lotro/wow/warhammer etc......

Although i am spending my time casually getting to know this game and rolling differnet classes to find my niche, i can safely say that i have a bloody good feeling about where i am going with this one.

To be honest if i had started this game 3 years ago i doubt whether the aforementioned mmo's would have been sniffed at.

I am very impressed by what i have seen so far.

I fully expect my gaming to turn more towards this game by the end of April.

dreamer2008

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2010

N/E

Alright, you convinced me. I ordered guild wars complete and I expect it to arrive in the next few days.

Swordsman Tjanz

Swordsman Tjanz

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

Riihim??ki, Finland

Ultimate New Order [UNO] / Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

W/A

Talking about the activity in-game, I can say that there is still lots and lots of players to meet and have fun with. There's players who actually enjoy this game because they have been here so long and just to have fun. Then there are these "most arrogant soloers who think they know everything in the game" (most "leet" ones) and these can be found more than too often in all sorts of Elite areas, like DoA, UW and FoW or even some dungeons. It means that if you don't know what and how to play, you're being ignored and so on. Gladly that group is only minority in this "community", but I have to face the fact that the very group of players is growing.

If you want more "family-like" circles to spend time with, I'd suggest you to get to know players, different styles of professions (how to tank with assassin or heal with elementalist and so on). There's huge variety of different styles and ways to play all of these professions here. Some players are willing to help you to know your profession, then some are automatically expecting that you know what is your place in team and what you have to do there. Walkaway-technique always work on the "last" occassions better than just standing there and arguing about things.

Welcome to the community! Hope you don't find yourself bailed too often at start. If you're called "noob", ignore and play as you can. You'll learn eventually. =)

dreamer2008

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2010

N/E

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Originally Posted by Swordsman Tjanz View Post
Welcome to the community! Hope you don't find yourself bailed too often at start. If you're called "noob", ignore and play as you can. You'll learn eventually. =)
Thank you for the welcome, I hope being called a "noob" too often won't affect me much but I will wait and see.

What would me make happy in the game would be to find at least a few people that would like to have fun playing with me, to solve quests with them, primary and secondary, and just hang around to talk about our adventures in the small breaks we take between quests. But I guess I will wait and see if this is possible also. I'm trying not to make my expectations too high.

Autumn Crocus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2010

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Originally Posted by dreamer2008 View Post
Alright, you convinced me. I ordered guild wars complete and I expect it to arrive in the next few days.
Welcome to the community! If you need any help, just ask or post.

dreamer2008

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2010

N/E

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Welcome to the community! If you need any help, just ask or post.
Thank you for the welcome, I hope I won't be too annoying posting questions that have apparently obvious answers.

I am curious though, will I be able to continue with my Necromancer from the 10 free hours once I get the Game Dvd or do I have to make a new account and new characters?

Madruk Dhuum

Madruk Dhuum

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2010

D/W

Definitely get it. And yes, you should be able to continue your necromancer, I started Prophecies on a trial basis and continued my characters from there once I actually purchased the game.

Highlander Of Alba

Highlander Of Alba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Real Rogue Clan

Rt/Mo

Yes you will, so no worries there,

Welcome to Guild Wars, yes the Campfire section will let you read up on the professions and give yourself a better insight.

Play what you wish to play as fun/enjoyment is the important part here.

Necros will always be a good choice so yur heading in the right areas,

As you said complete collection so this means in effect any char your make in any campaign can move from one to another at a port city.

Enjoy the game

dreamer2008

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2010

N/E

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Originally Posted by Desdemona Solanine View Post
Definitely get it. And yes, you should be able to continue your necromancer, I started Prophecies on a trial basis and continued my characters from there once I actually purchased the game.
Okay, thank you for the info, then I'm gonna continue playing in the trial until the game arrives

Kawil

Kawil

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

{Hawk}-->The Aerie Alliance

N/Me

I'd also like to welcome you. Have fun with the game and don't be afraid to ask questions here as well as in game. Most peeps will give a good answer. See you in game!

dreamer2008

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2010

N/E

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Originally Posted by Kawil View Post
I'd also like to welcome you. Have fun with the game and don't be afraid to ask questions here as well as in game. Most peeps will give a good answer. See you in game!
Thank you for the welcome, I'm already having fun in the trial. See you!

Caw521

Caw521

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2009

R/

The wiki is also a great source of information, or if you just wanna check up on daily updates or whatever.

The Necromancer page here is a great place to start a necromancer, as it offers tips, what to do and not do, a skill list, etc, etc. Necromancers have very well-rounded abilities in PvE, PvP, Farming, you name it.

Good luck! And btw, if you start in Prophecies, make sure to take a whole lot of screenies early on.

dreamer2008

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2010

N/E

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Originally Posted by Caw521 View Post
The wiki is also a great source of information, or if you just wanna check up on daily updates or whatever.

The Necromancer page here is a great place to start a necromancer, as it offers tips, what to do and not do, a skill list, etc, etc. Necromancers have very well-rounded abilities in PvE, PvP, Farming, you name it.

Good luck! And btw, if you start in Prophecies, make sure to take a whole lot of screenies early on.
Ah yes, the Wiki, I know it already. I read all about the Necromancer and the Elementalist, that's how I made sure I've chosen the right primary and secondary classes.

colosusjokers

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2010

Greedy Monkeys

Me/

I'm sure the welcome posts are getting redundant by now but welcome anyways!

For the most part try to focus on PvE at first. Don't try to jump into PvP until you have at the very least hit lvl 20 and unlocked enough skills to make a build that works for you. That way when you jump to that part of the game it will be all the more enjoyable. Just avoid going to Heroes Ascent no matter how long you have played.