Best hero set up for warriors?

So put MB&S on the SoS. Fixed. Since regardless of atts it'll remove 1 condition for each spirit, and you shouldn't be in dire need of healing.

And like I said, it's good to have both. Blood Bond is a really powerful skills for melee, and so is Barbs and MoP. From my experience, MoP really isn't a wasted skill on heroes. That sounds more like a bandaid than a fix. You still dont have enough red barring as the OP and I have already said.

The AI doesn't choose MoP targets well. And barbs is meh because of its 2s cast time.

That sounds more like a bandaid than a fix. You still dont have enough red barring as the OP and I have already said.

The AI doesn't choose MoP targets well. And barbs is meh because of its 2s cast time. I don't see how... You were probably right in saying there could be some more condition removal but I've really never had to use more than the 2 monks hench backline and minor prots. Especially on a War pumping SY! But same goes for all my squishy chars too.

First of all, not enough condition removal besides smite condition. Smite condition removes 1 condition over 7s and it is weak against stacked conditions and condition removal is more important for physicals than casters because blind and weakness are common. Second, heroes dont use Mark of Pain well unless you micro. Third, dual orders is very expensive (34% life sac every 5s), even for a ER hero which doesn't cast ER perfectly, all just to support 2 physicals (you+a hench) is overkill. Last but not least, not enough red barring or healing. Blood bond should help but on the orders ER that needs to cast 2s OOP every 5s, you may not get it as often as you want to without micro, plus there are other skills on that bar competing for cast time, like the 2s cast time Barbs and DF every 5s.

The rest are minor points. While you can still micro prots like PS, having prots on the MM is less desirable because the MM is usually too busy casting 3s animate (if you are killing fast enough) or 2s death nova to be casting prots on his own. Can do with more hex removal than just the smite hex removing 1 hex every 12s. If you are dependent on hench healers, and you have weak red barring, you have to watch out for hexes because hench healers in some campaigns do not carry hex removal. Your arguments fall completely flat when you consider that the defacto standard Hero build for quite some time (Sabway) had:

- no Hex removal
- 1 Condition removal skill (MB&S with 1 Spirit), possibly two with Weapon of Remedy
- Protective Spirit on a MM

In other words, what was generally accepted as the best Hero build of the time ran the exact same setup that you say is a major flaw.

And while Hero redbarring is good for inexperienced, it's not entirely necessary. Learning proper aggro techniques and relying solely on henchmen for your main healing can greatly improve your Hero damage.

With that said, I don't care for Orders builds either, unless it's a devoted physical party (namely, one with multiple players).