DoA PuGs

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

For anyone interested: A varient on a PvX team build has basically become the meta for PUGs in DoA nm. While it is not by any means the fastest way to clear DoA nm...it seems to be pretty much fool proof, hence why most PUGs are leaning towards it.

The team set up is pretty simple:

3 DwG-can be run by mutiple professions
1 SoS- can be run by mutiple professions
1 Aotl- This is optional...another dwg works well
1 Imba-can be replaced by ST Shelter rit if no Aotl is in the team
2 Monks

So if anyone is having any problems finding a PuG in DoA nm.....running one of these might help you get into a sucessful group no matter your lvl of experience.

Note* I am not trying to promote one team build over another. I am simply conveying what seems to be the new meta for DoA nm PuGs.

Hope this might help anyone having problems finding PuGs in DoA nm.

*Note*: Evidently PvX incorporated the builds to a caster spike variant, which it is not...idk why they would do this, so once I get off my lazy tail...I'll post them here.



Thanks!~Take care and Have fun~

Life Bringing

Life Bringing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Fissure of Woe

[LOD]/[GS]/[DL]/[LOD*]

N/P

A DoA pug sounds exceedingly painful. I can't imagine them being very successful.

Atro

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

Join Date: Sep 2009

Where don't I live?

A/

I actually went as monk on a run just for laughs and it didnt end up being terrible, I wish this thread would have been up earlier so I could have known to take screen shots.

mage767

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

I would drop 1 Dwg in favor of a classical SS necro. Can't beat the damage of several well placed spiteful spirits.

Silicon Based

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

a Few Good Men

Very sparse information.
Can you show any builds or link to PVX?

DigitalFear

DigitalFear

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2009

My mother's basement.

Me/

Imo take 6 DwG 2 ER Protters/Infusers and win DoA ;p

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Life Bringing View Post
A DoA pug sounds exceedingly painful. I can't imagine them being very successful. I have done full DoA runs with PUGs. Just takes a good leader and communication.

miriforst

miriforst

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2009

Avalons Wraiths

R/Rt

never done anything exept h/h and pugs, never had a guild except my own consisting of me and my brother :P

and i pugged doa (of course with a bit of a cookie cutter build i made with fevered + frag + glyph of imo + steam and aucumulated pain so on )

X CDH X

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

UK

nEo

Mo/E

Was wondering what the average run times for all areas this team build gets as was thinking to try it out.

Average =?
Fast =?
I think I read somewhere that I am not supposed to link/redirect from here to wiki. But here is the bar I use on my Mesmer..

That isn't true. Link to Wiki/PvX if it's convenient. There's a Wiki thing in the General Campfire Guidelines, but it doesn't say not to post links to Wiki. - Marty



Quote:
Originally Posted by X CDH X View Post
Was wondering what the average run times for all areas this team build gets as was thinking to try it out.

Average =?
Fast =? Average from the ones I've been involved in (bout 12 full) 1hr 40mins
Fastest one I was a part of was 1hr 22mins

By no means a SC. (note* it's a PUG, esp is not really an issue)Veil takes the longest of the 4.

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

I would have two Ether Renewal eles instead of two monks and a paragon.

Could maybe do hard mode...

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

I just went to DoA on my dervish (haven't used him forever, last time I used him was for a guild run in DoA forever ago :P). Saw this place was having a party with people. Thanks for this, didn't really know what the meta builds were. Might try a PUG sometime.

sthpaw

sthpaw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Australia, Sydney

Overclockers Australia [OCAU]

W/

yeh thanks for this, like wow i didnt think there was a fail proof build like still in DoA.
feels like back in the ursan days.

Xeng Suey

Xeng Suey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Somewhere I belong

Mo/

If u wanna go HArd Mode, bring winter+mantra of cold ...

Imba is important

Might try form one of this days
3DwG's (with mantra of frost)
Imbagon
AoTL
SoS with winter
BL/PnH
UA


I Admit 2 ER's instead of the 2 monks would be nice too with convert hexes aegis chain, spirit bon and prot bont etc etc, but i would drop the paragon for somethign else since armor wont be a problem hence both ER's would bond the whole party... maybe a UA monk with party heals and stuff. Maybe i would drop the necro for another DwG (with mantra frost+echo)...nice stuff

Anyway dunno if its good to do HM since i had so good results with this pugs....

Xeng Suey

Xeng Suey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Somewhere I belong

Mo/

Its just old scholl little tricks, you should know that by now^^

EDIT:

The questions are:

Is it more rentable to do mod Glaiveway to play it on Hard Mode?
How is the gem drop rate comparing to Normal Mode?
How long does and Hard Mode run could last?


i'm just wonderign because i am having nice results with pugs...

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

Just did Stygian Veil in 58min with a PUG. Only a few deaths, idk if that's good or bad. But, it was fun

Daldaen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Surpassing the Ordinary [Epic]

Mo/A

58min with a PuG isn't horrible, considering... you did infact finish! However nor is it great. DoA, as those before me said, takes communication and a good leader. You need someone who knows what is going to happen, when it will happen, and how it will go down. For example rushing down a trench after killing both underlords blindly, will get most teams killed, which is why some foresight into the mechanics of each are, is crucial to success. Having one person who does DoA often or is in a DoASC guild/has been is very helpful. 8 clueless people will wipe out of DoA very very quick. It isn't all that forgiving.

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

Also just did Foundry. Only 1 wipe, but it was because I lagged and couldn't heal. Thankfully one dwg had a rez and we finished. I think it was ~45min, because I used about 4.5 cupcakes.

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

I finally went with an alliance group with my derv. We had 1 Derv glaiver (me), 1 sin glaiver, 1 necro glaiver and 1 rit glaiver. It went fine even though we lost a monk 2 dc in foundry....I might suggest changing the test of faith out for something else....I was thinking maybe extend enchatments for seed of life. I don't think I would recommend HM for it though.

Kenzo Skunk

Kenzo Skunk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

Been doing doa pugs lately and from what i`ve seen, it can be done in about 1h:30min max DwG way. With cons in normal mode. I play mostly rit and all tree variants (SoS, DwG or ST) work well. ST is particularly useful against Mallyx. Oh, and Great Dwarf Weapon+Earthbind do wonders on him. And it is so normal for dwg players to die often. That`s why there`s an ua. Just bring some dp removers. Other monk is usually hb.

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

Just did Gloom today in 36min with a PUG. I have to say, it was the strangest team I've had lol^^. Little bit of everything in the group.

2 Monks
1 Dervish that was a tank/dmg dealer. He used Avatar of Balth with Stoneflesh and some scythe skills. It was weird, but worked very well.
1 Warrior with a Triple Chop build, kind of looked like a farming build lol
1 SoS
1 RoJ (me)
1 Ele Nuker
1 AoTL hero

We did have an armor of salvation that I used (was just sitting in my storage), that probably helped. But, this was a very cooperative group and we worked very well together. We only wiped once, and that was the last part when we fought the Darknesses, but we recovered quickly and finished.

cute_dragon

cute_dragon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

Austria

Rise Like A Phoenix [fire]

Me/

Well... was curious and just gave it a try.
1.38h -> fullrun
21min -> mallyx ^^

Piercing Them

Piercing Them

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada

Quebekers [QKA]

R/Mo

Might have to capture those skills and try with my derv!!! hmm hmm

or get my guild to come with me !