April 29th Update Craziness

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

So the Mesmer is migrating from screwing up a single target to screwing up an entire mob. Mkay.

Gill Halendt

Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

NDA or not, I see no problem with this "leak".

The skill descriptions were pretty much coincident to the preview on the Wiki, so it's really no secret anyway...

QueenofDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2009

Ineptitude and wastels worry.....so long rangers. )

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

Wastrel's Worry AoE still with 1s recharge? Cast, tab, cast, tab, ad infinitum ftw.

In all honesty, I can't wait for these to go (and stay) live.

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove View Post
Wastrel's Worry AoE still with 1s recharge? Cast, tab, cast, tab, ad infinitum ftw.

In all honesty, I can't wait for these to go (and stay) live.
Well, it still ends if they use a skill.

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

Fine, so pre-hex with Panic

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

To be honest, if complicate isn't split for PvP, then I'm going to shit allllllll over people with my 2 elite skills

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

Have you used wastrel's worry lately? The point of the skill is that it only doeals damage if the opponent doesn't use a skill for 3 seconds. And to manage that, you have to interrupt the target. If you alt tab and recast on recharge, without actually preventing skill use, you'll get very little damage out of it. I know, I've tried to use it in PvE...

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iuris View Post
Have you used wastrel's worry lately?
Going to answer that for you. No. Like how people don't understand how Frustration won't make "spike groups."

Winstar

Winstar

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

London

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iuris View Post
Have you used wastrel's worry lately? The point of the skill is that it only doeals damage if the opponent doesn't use a skill for 3 seconds. And to manage that, you have to interrupt the target. If you alt tab and recast on recharge, without actually preventing skill use, you'll get very little damage out of it. I know, I've tried to use it in PvE...
Wastrels can be pretty beastly on anything where hexes expire more quickly.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winstar View Post
Wastrels can be pretty beastly on anything where hexes expire more quickly.
Very true, it's a boss-killer.

aspi

aspi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

eeew

N/Rt

I vanquished a vabbi aera in the last couple of days, but I don't know much about mesmer skills(because I can't stand mesmers) but it seemed to me that the roaring ethers casted wasters worry and it was still applied to all members of my party?

Steps_Descending

Steps_Descending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

IN my pocket plane. Obviously!

Little Tom's Pocket Plane [THom]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduin View Post
So the Mesmer is migrating from screwing up a single target to screwing up an entire mob. Mkay.
We're adapting to PvE need, I guess. 1 mob is useless, PvE is about many mobs.
I prefer that to becoming straight AL-ignoring damage dealers

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Well, PvP is "X Party members + Y NPCs" vs "X Party members + Y NPCs". And both sides should have a 50% chance to win. And after each battle the party is refreshed and recovered, and their positions reseted.

But PvE is "X Party members + Y NPCs" vs "Z Hostile NPCs". And the player side should have much more chances to win. And weariness accumulates after each battle. And after each battle, the next comes... or even DURING the current battle.
So you can't really balance PvE to make both sides equal.

I'm only afraid of what NPC mesmers may become. Dealing with one is not a problem. But imagine an enemy party of 6..8 mesmers that can kill the whole party in record time with just 2..3 spells.

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere View Post
But imagine an enemy party of 6..8 mesmers that can kill the whole party in record time with just 2..3 spells.
How do you handle non-mesmer groups...?

I don't see this update doing such.

Can't wait till it's time for dervish and paragons to be brought up to date. There's some really mean dervish mobs already.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Most of the time, I BURN them after making them waste their skills with minions and/or a melee party party member.
Against areas that mainly have martial weapon users I usually bring air instead.
But armor ignoring skills go through that like a knife through butter.
I hate mesmers. I feel dirty when I'm one, XD.