Why does all chinese and corean guys farm with mo/e ???

I3loody

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

i was in elone reach id1 and there were much mo/e with korean and chinees names why does they farm with mo/e is it faster as other builds?

hazardous

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Israel, Haifa

Crew

Mo/

just cuz ther mid asian doesnt necessairly mean their farmers!

Tsunami Rain

Tsunami Rain

mmmmmmmm pie.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu, Hawaii

Favorable Winds [Gust]

Mo/

well first off its korean* and to answer your question (if they are infact farmers) they might be 55 monks. Personally I havent tried mo/e as a 55 monk build but i do have a mo/r and that works well for me

cerb

cerb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sept-Iles, QC, Canada

Les Tric??ratops Sont Nos [Amis]

Mo/

It might be a SoJ/Aftershock build. That's what I use from time to time, and it's pretty fast too.

I pwnd U

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

cerb is more then likely correct. SoJ/Aftershock is a good combo as both knock the enemy down. it is fast as well. also you can run glyphs if need be. they think more outside the box then most Americans.

Wrath Of Dragons

Wrath Of Dragons

Burninate Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2005

New Mexico

E/Mo

i use an e/mo 55 with no monk smites. it is hella fast kill, much faster then SoJ
~200 damage every 10 seconds

Apple

Apple

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/Mo

SoJ does more than 200 damage every 10 seconds...

Wrath Of Dragons

Wrath Of Dragons

Burninate Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2005

New Mexico

E/Mo

really? at best its about 41 dmg an attack, things are slowed by falling over, and it has a 45 sec recharge time.
and i lied. its closer to about 360 damage every 20 seconds depending on critters fire resistance

onilink

onilink

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Consortium of Evil Monkeys

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath Of Dragons
really? at best its about 41 dmg an attack, things are slowed by falling over, and it has a 45 sec recharge time.
and i lied. its closer to about 360 damage every 20 seconds depending on critters fire resistance My Soj does 53 dmg per attack.

remmeh

remmeh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Apathy Inc [AI]

R/Mo

hmmm soj + aftershock... beware, trolls outside droknars bwahahaha..

cerb

cerb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sept-Iles, QC, Canada

Les Tric??ratops Sont Nos [Amis]

Mo/

I just went to intern and they were all mo/w

They just use them same build as we do..
I usually take
Prot Spirit / Breeze / SoJ / Zealot's Fire / Bonnetis / Mending / Balts Spirit / Bless Aura
when I farm with mo/w... but it seems they use symbol of wrath rather than blessed aura.

I got a few koreans to let me watch their runs and it was nothing special.. they just play really safe and well.. they use symbol of wrath (and the monsters were fleeing from it)


Edit: Okay, found something really cool as Mo/E. I went Prot/Breeze/Soj/Zealots/symbol of wrath/Aftershock/Mending/Balts Spirit

Cast SoJ.. then symbol of wrath and when most are knocked down, cast aftershock, kills REALLY fast (and if you time it well, most won't flee)

Sharpe_116

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Adventurers Society

Mo/W

i would agree than mo/e would probably be for aftershock. considering on griff runs u dont NEED bonnetis. its usefull but you can live without it.

E Power

E Power

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

New York City

Wisdom of the Raven [MyM]

You can pretty much farm with any Mo/X. The 55 build is pretty standard and mainly consist of monk spells. Certain skills just speed it up .

Kyle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Legends Of Teh Industry [XXX]

Or they could not have been farmers and just been glyph healers. Possibilities oh oh the possobilities. but aftershock thing sounds nice. mite have to give it a whirl


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FreshTrax

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Creedo

Mo/Me

My SOJ does 53 damage for over 40 seconds. Then its ready to roll again in 5 secs. That 5 seconds can be long if you have 15 minatours on ya.

I have used the Mo/Ele build a bunch but always ran into issues with interrupts. So I find it much easier to just use the Mo/Me build. I would say the time difference in runs is not that significant.

Alanus

Alanus

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

USA

Sasquatch Carrot Slingers [FooT]

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by I pwnd U
cerb is more then likely correct. SoJ/Aftershock is a good combo as both knock the enemy down. it is fast as well. also you can run glyphs if need be. they think more outside the box then most Americans. I would stray from generalizations...

Monica Angelina

Monica Angelina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Hot Original Elementalists

E/Me

I would say that some of our Asian counter parts simply don't read English and therefore don't have pre-made builds spoon-fed to them so they do have to work on coming up with their own stuff.

I use my Ellie to farm w/AS, Crystal Wave, and Stoning to keep my Kinetic Armor charged. It's almost as good for balling physical attack mobs. However, it does nothing to the ranged mobs that SoJ so happily handles.

While I extremely dislike the slow down in hits that SoJ creates, on creatures that cannot be knocked down, SoJ reign supreme. The only thing better was Balt Aura pre-AoE nerf. Those were the days... Armor ignoring damage over time, no need to be hit, quicker recharge. It was so good. If only they didn't nerf it the way they had. >.<

Lambentviper

Lambentviper

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Noobs Just Took Halls [WTF]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by cerb
I just went to intern and they were all mo/w

They just use them same build as we do..
I usually take
Prot Spirit / Breeze / SoJ / Zealot's Fire / Bonnetis / Mending / Balts Spirit / Bless Aura
when I farm with mo/w... but it seems they use symbol of wrath rather than blessed aura.

I got a few koreans to let me watch their runs and it was nothing special.. they just play really safe and well.. they use symbol of wrath (and the monsters were fleeing from it)


Edit: Okay, found something really cool as Mo/E. I went Prot/Breeze/Soj/Zealots/symbol of wrath/Aftershock/Mending/Balts Spirit

Cast SoJ.. then symbol of wrath and when most are knocked down, cast aftershock, kills REALLY fast (and if you time it well, most won't flee)
wouldnt the aggro be up again by the time you cast aftershock? aftershock does alot more damage to enemies who are KDed when you cast it..

I actually just thought up some tactic...

If you could get one enemy crippled and use epidemic to give it to the rest of the aggro and then cast Symbol of Wrath, they wouldnt be able to really run from it so well.....

Rape of Faith

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Eternal Champions

W/R

W/Me? Doesn't sound entirely crazy... I'm thinking...
Eviscerate / Axe Rake / Cyclone Axe / Bonetti's Defense / Symbol of Wrath / Balthazar's Aura / Epidemic / Defensive Stance

I am a very n00b build maker, but what I'm thinking is (for Griffon Farming, let's say):
First, get your mob of Griffons. When they've surrounded you cast [ Cyclone -> Bonetti's ] so you have some defense/energy regen for the next part . When Cyclone Axe recharges, use it. The adrenaline gain from it should activate Eviscerate, at which point you should go [ Eviscerate -> Axe Rake -> Epidemic ]. This should then cripple all of your enemies. Epidemic costs 15 energy, so you might want to [ Cyclone -> Bonetti's ] and regenerate it. Now... Symbol of Wrath + Balthazar's Aura for massive AoE damage whilst they limp away.

In theory... could it work? Right now I don't have an available skill point in which to purchase Epidemic with, otherwise I would test it.

mattjones527

mattjones527

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rape of Faith
W/Me? Doesn't sound entirely crazy... I'm thinking...
Eviscerate / Axe Rake / Cyclone Axe / Bonetti's Defense / Symbol of Wrath / Balthazar's Aura / Epidemic / Defensive Stance

I am a very n00b build maker, but what I'm thinking is (for Griffon Farming, let's say):
First, get your mob of Griffons. When they've surrounded you cast [ Cyclone -> Bonetti's ] so you have some defense/energy regen for the next part . When Cyclone Axe recharges, use it. The adrenaline gain from it should activate Eviscerate, at which point you should go [ Eviscerate -> Axe Rake -> Epidemic ]. This should then cripple all of your enemies. Epidemic costs 15 energy, so you might want to [ Cyclone -> Bonetti's ] and regenerate it. Now... Symbol of Wrath + Balthazar's Aura for massive AoE damage whilst they limp away.

In theory... could it work? Right now I don't have an available skill point in which to purchase Epidemic with, otherwise I would test it.
In theory im gonna have to say no this build couldnt work.

EVEN IF you could somehow make a W/Mo/Me.

This build would quickly fail from lack of healing or be insanely slow killing from the limited number of enemies it could take on.

KazeMitsui

KazeMitsui

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

pretty sure its all up in yo face

[WHAT]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Monica Angelina
I would say that some of our Asian counter parts simply don't read English and therefore don't have pre-made builds spoon-fed to them so they do have to work on coming up with their own stuff. i would jus like to say that sadly most of the world can read english and that only really americans can't read more than one language... sorry dudes its true..
and yea im american but i got a lot of international friends... us americans jus think we only need to know one language for some odd reason...

Saul D allesio

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Norsk Raiders

Mo/Me

Im from aus an dits pretty much the same case but...We only do need 2 learn one lanuage (Well from a asian backgroun (ive only been in aus for 6 years...) i know other lanuages and how 2 read them but...i dont need 2 know them...lol...Where i come from its a 3rd world country, yet in schools they still teach english (because we have sence that there is no hope for future (or good pay) in a 3rd world country) Which country? pakistan...
(in theRealy poor parts...) (on the other parts there are some 'radicles' who get pissed of at evry thing...lol)

cerb

cerb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sept-Iles, QC, Canada

Les Tric??ratops Sont Nos [Amis]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Monica Angelina
I would say that some of our Asian counter parts simply don't read English and therefore don't have pre-made builds spoon-fed to them so they do have to work on coming up with their own stuff. Not really, asians are just as forum-happy as americans are, you just haven't heard of their forums, because they aren't in english. They are copying builds, we just do not see where from, as most of us cannot read korean.

The korean style is to stick with what works for them, and perfect the build; only few choose to innovate.