Money making!

Hey all.

So me and some friends recently started up GW again. We are having some money issues though. We are at the part of the factions campaign where you choose which side (luxon/kurzick).

The biggest money sink seems to be capture signets. I'm constantly dropping 2k every zone for new elites ;p

But in general even if we run as 4, the loot drops don't really make up for it at all. And none of this stuff sells anymore. Back when I first started guild wars when it came out, at least most gold items had somewhat of a value to other players. Now days even these new green items seem worthless.

I got lucky and landed a superior rune of vigor the other day, so I'll probably sell that... but it wont cover the crazy amount of skills I need to buy for heroes/myself!

Are keys worth the 600g? I rarely get anything good, but I did get that superior rune out of a chest so they can't be all bad.

So at our point in the campaign, what would you suggest in terms of money making?

Pretty sure Threads asking how to make money = auto lock

Everything is so outdated on the farming section, or way late end game stuff. I've followed 4 builds/guides on these forums that ended up just being nerfed.

And you can't directly ask questions over there.

I'm not sure where else to go.

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Click on PvE farming builds.

Get the Storybooks, do the missions and turn them in. ID all whites. Go feather farming in Kryta or Jaya Bluffs. Do the daily Zaishen Missions and Bounties. Don't waste money on keys. There is no great way to make lots of gold except playing the game.

Perfect! this is what I was looking for thanks!

And what with purple/gold stuff?
Is it also smart to salvage everything? Or only specific items like axes, because for example iron ingots are worth a lot?

only slavage if u have highly slavage able. i find that to be the msot productive way to get money.

do you really need to cap each and every elite? :O especially for your secondarys proffesions. you should be fine in armour from seitung until at least cavalon/HzH, but then it's kinda recommended to buy a full set.

Maybe they want the skill hunter title. It also unlocks their use for heroes on the account.

I like capping skills for heroes and junk.

I already have the more expensive armor from kaineng city. Is there something after that type? minus the stuff that just looks neat. I don't have the income for looks neat lol

Oh and what do you mean by ID all whites? Sorry I don't know these abbreviations yet.

Kaineng City sells maximum armor, so you cant get anything better (stats-wise).

And when using a id-kit on a white drop then the white item becomes a BIT more vabluble... not sure if it's worth it.

Regular weapons that drop that are of little value, white rarity. ID them, they will be worth more.


~Mini Norn

Once you start fighting stuff that's level 20+ and are dropping whites worth ~50g+ then you'll be profiting. The cost of an ID is 4g (5g if you buy superior kits), so you'll profit if the ID increases it by more than that. Some items only increase by 1 or 2g, which is a loss (obviously), but most of the time it's a profit (I've seen whites jump by 20g+ on several occasions).

Are you serious? You ID whites? Oh my god, you mean too tell me I have been playing GW all these years and I didn't know you get more from whites when you ID them?

Me <<<< N00b? hehehehehe,

Learn something new everyday.

Play the game as you would, no farming. When you plow through the quests and missions and sell most of the less valuable drops to merchs and the more valuable to players I know in nightfall I netted around 30k when I was done with the campaign.

Or you could fast faction farm or jade quarry/ fort aspenwood and sell the jade and amber to players

Go to Jaya Bluffs (Buffs?), which is noobie island on your Factions campaign. Load up a skill bar with lots of area of effect damage and a self heal. Pretty much anything works for this. Farm the Sensai groups outside in normal mode. You'll make a good chunk of money collecting feathers and salvaging scalps into feathers as well. The Sensai drop lots of runes too. For a new player like yourself, this is really profitable and really easy to do. The Sensai are all low levels (in normal mode) so they aren't much of a threat.

For me, soloing with a Rit SOS I make lots, and feathers as well.

Stand in kamaden, buy items for a low price, sell them at a higher price then you bought=profits.

Both faster and easier then farming.

I wouldnt call that easy. Powertrading requires both patience and good knowledge of what items are worth.
Do the featherfarm, ID all whites, and I also recommend salvaging all iron items like swords etc. A white sword that merchant might pay 70g for can often become 5-7 iron ingots which sell around 18-20g each (accumulate a stack and sell to players for 5k or a bit less, not to the trader). That will make you a few plats every so often so you can afford signets.

Also: ID all armor drops for the price increase. For non-white armor drops, run to the Rune Trader and pricecheck the runes and insignia. Salvage them off (using Expert or Superior Salvage kit, the normal salvage will only yield the materials) if their buy price is over 150-250 (that'll give you sell price higher than item price). You have 50% chance to destroy the item that way, so salvage the runes/insignia in order from most to least expensive.

For perfect weapon mods (e.g. +30 health, 20% enchant duration, etc), pricecheck on Guru or with your guild/alliance mates. You will have to sell these to other players, so it may not be worth your time.

For a new player this advice means squat.

If I understand correctly, you are changing your secondary class and buy/capture many skills to get them for your heroes. I assume you mean the heroes you get in the Nightfall and EOTN campaign.
This is quite expensive, since at the start you have a lot to unlock.

There are more ways to cheaply get skills for heroes.

- in the Nightfall and EOTN campaign, there are several hero skill trainers. These give you skills for hero skill points instead gold. Hero skill points are earned by playing through Nightfall and EOTN and earning higher title ranks with the sunspear, lightbringer and all of the EOTN title tracks. The first few title ranks are pretty easy to get - just by playing through the game.

- You can unlock skills for Balthazar faction points at the Priest of Balthazar. The priest is present in all of the PvP outposts and your guild hall, if you bought him. You get Balthazar faction by participating in PvP matches. Or you can farm it in the Zaishen Elite outpost. This is a tutorial for PvP players but can be (ab)used to farm Balthazar faction. You can farm up to 6000 every 24 hours. It is done by 4 players, usually one or two ranger trappers and the rest elementalist "finishers" - ask around in the outpost how the people do it. It's very easy once you get the point. You get one ordinary skill for 1000 Balthazar faction or one elite for 3000 Balthazar faction.
You have many free character slots - create a PvP character dedicated for this.

- If you play through the first half of the Prophecies campaign, there are many quests available that give you skills as reward instead of money. Play these quests. You should do this with a native Prophecies character, since there are much more quests available in the Ascalon area.


In my opinion, you started with the wrong campaign. Factions is not the best for starters. You should have started with either Nightfall (because of the heroes) or with Prophecies (no heroes but lower learning curve).

Awesome advice all over in this thread.

I stopped salvaging iron because i had so much, i didnt realize people buy it ;x

I'll have to start doing that again

eDIT: Didn't see page 2 ;p

I actually started playing back when the game first came out, then returned for factions, quit, and returned again for nightfall, then quit again. I have a characters with completed campaigns now, except factions.. I got bored my first time since I was doing it solo before heroes.

We all went over on our new factions characters and unlocked some of the starter heroes (dunkoro, talkora, koss, Olias) which are making factions almost too easy.

I didn't realize you could switch secondary at will before, so im unlocking everything for my main assassin too.. just to have all the options.

I'll try farming some pvp stuff for a while, but im already late for work so i can do a more thought out response when i get home!

Only higher lvl req white items r worth identifying for a higher merch price.
For lower lvl req whites the few xtra gold after id'ing negates the id cost.

Is there a central location/campaign where most people buy & sell ? I have not seen much activity in the way of a player market in the places I have been so far.

I would say Kamadan.

Kamadan is the top buy/sell place, followed by Lion's Arch, and to a lesser extent The Temple of Balthazar and Kaineng Center.

D'you know, he's pretty much right.

In the 5 years plus that this forum has been in existance, "how to make money?" threads have outnumbered threads on any other topic.

Sadly, it has got to the stage where these threads tend to be locked out of hand - and that can be very disheartening to a new user whose first thread on Guru gets locked.

What we need (in my ever-so-humble opinion) is one, small stickied guide, containing all the great tips contained within this thread - ID'ing whites, not buying unneccessary armor - all that sorta stuff. Nothing in-depth, we don't need builds or farms - just basic financial strategy.

If we do go this route, "money" threads will still be locked on sight, but with a link to the new sticky.

Comments?

Sadly the guides tend to get outdated really fast it seems ;p

This thread has helped a ton. Even older guild wars players are learning stuff ( id whites!?)

Just tips like this are really nice, and a place to directly ask questions for up to date answers.

Go for it. These tips always come up every now and again but for some reason I can never find the threads that have them. If you/the community put a thread together I can link it in the General Campfire Guidelines as well.