Overpowered Computer, yet Guild Wars loads "slowly".

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I Pwn Brownies
Academy Page
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Snorph
Krytan Explorer
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Well it's not any of those. What about your hard drive? Is it old, new, how fast is the RPM's?
Bristlebane
Bristlebane
Desert Nomad
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8gb ram you say.
I wonder how performance would affect running it on a 4gb ramdisk lol.
At least it's the cheaper way to try it before you run out and buy an SSD or a bunch of raided 10k drives to see if that solves your.. problem.
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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That CPU is trash, sorry to say. I had a similar rig a while back using the same CPU. I believe it has something to do with the very low cache it has compared to intel counterparts. Also, your hard drive is a factor with loading believe it or not. If your read speeds are low your loading times will be slow as well. I've seen to many videos comparing the superior read/write speeds of an SSD to that of a regular hard drive in games like Crysis, etc. Of course the SSD won in loading maps.
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I Pwn Brownies
Academy Page
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Niila
Frost Gate Guardian
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- As said, your quad core is baed. I'm fairly sure overclocking would help a bit. I think any dual core with 3ghz or so will load faster especially when guild wars doesn't benefit that much from additional cores, if at all.

- SSD surely does own here

- Haha oh wow 1000w power supply when you could do with 400w
Leohan
Leohan
Frost Gate Guardian
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yes L2 and L3 Cache at 2mb is a little low, but worrying over that isn't helping the guy. That CPU can handle games well enough.

The Hard Drive speed only effects the game loading when it is physically downloading new files in to the gw.dat. 7,200 rpms, probably a SATA at 3GB I'm guessing you have is fine. Getting an overpriced 10,000rpm HDD is not going to solve anything.

I'm surprised no one as asked about...
What is your RAM speed (eg.MHz)?
What is the latency clock of the RAM (eg. 9-9-9-12)?
Is your RAM dual or triple channel linked?
What is your Motherboard Model?

Since your computers speed, is only as fast as your slowest component, these play a big roll in load times.
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cebalrai
Jungle Guide
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Originally Posted by ??? View Post
That CPU is trash, sorry to say. I had a similar rig a while back using the same CPU. I believe it has something to do with the very low cache it has compared to intel counterparts. Also, your hard drive is a factor with loading believe it or not. If your read speeds are low your loading times will be slow as well. I've seen to many videos comparing the superior read/write speeds of an SSD to that of a regular hard drive in games like Crysis, etc. Of course the SSD won in loading maps.
Ignore this person and Niila. They don't know what they're talking about in the slightest.

Guild Wars runs smooth as silk on MUCH weaker CPUs than that Phenom. Hell, it loads perfectly fast on an Atom-based netbook.


I'd check hard drive health, check RAM for errors, etc.

Are you having problems with any other apps?
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cebalrai
Jungle Guide
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Originally Posted by I Pwn Brownies View Post
That's what I figured. Happily 6-Core Processors are down to around $300 (from $999 first released) for the 3.2GHz's, and even $225 for the 2.8GHz's.

Anyone else have some advice they would care to share?
Just so you know, Guild Wars only uses one core. Having a 6-core processor will do almost nothing to speed it up.
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Niila
Frost Gate Guardian
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Originally Posted by cebalrai View Post
Ignore this person and Niila. They don't know what they're talking about in the slightest.

Guild Wars runs smooth as silk on MUCH weaker CPUs than that Phenom. Hell, it loads perfectly fast on an Atom-based netbook.


I'd check hard drive health, check RAM for errors, etc.

Are you having problems with any other apps?
Lol. Of course it runs perfectly fast with that quad-core. OP is asking why he has "long" loading times (still only 4-5secs), and for that question, cpu cache restrictions and fairly low clock rate are definitely factors to count in.

Those "others" loading faster might just be using ~4ghz dual core
tilpo
tilpo
Academy Page
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I have verily the same specs with just a slightly slower internet connection and I have loading times of about 4-5 seconds. I am not finding this extremely fast nor slow.

Post scriptum, your PC is absolutely NOT fast. I'm not at all satisfied with what I have, and really, it's almost exactly the same.
Bristlebane
Bristlebane
Desert Nomad
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I guess you could always get a dual cpu motherboard and try boost up your speed that way. 1000W.. You surely have the PSU for it lol. But yeah I think SSD is the way to go. Some SSD are very crappy though so make sure you make the right pick.
Quaker
Quaker
Hell's Protector
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It has nothing to do with your computer. It's a matter of network connection speed and you will find that it comes and goes for no apparent reason.
I've been having the same problem recently, off and on.

Keep in mind that the speed/bandwidth that your internet connection is capable of, does not force other parts of the internet to work at that speed. Nor does it overcome any roadblocks caused by a faulty or overloaded hub somewhere. Nor does it overcome any delays that may be caused by ANet doing maintenance/upgrades on their equipment.

Edit - and, after reading what Elder says below, it occurs to me that 4-5 seconds is quite normal. Keep in mind that GW is an internet based game - there's more to loading an area than just how fast your computer is. The game also has to contact the GW server and pass info back and forth about who's also entering the zone, what zone it is, etc.
Elder III
Elder III
Furnace Stoker
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Listen to Quaker^^^ also 4-5 seconds is pretty normal I would say (my computer is much more "over-powered" than your's my friend and that's about the same speed that I get typically these days)....
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Perilay Elkhorn
Frost Gate Guardian
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As what the OP stated it is probably the CPU itself. I am pretty sure that GW doesnt make full use of quad cores, but does for dual core(I remember an update about that) The frequency is a bit low tbh so overclocking would probably help. To put into perspective I run an old AM2 [email protected] ghz dual core np with GW, so the core frequency might be the issue.
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Niila
Frost Gate Guardian
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It doesn't really support multithreading (use more than one core) but at least dual core gets the benefit that one core can be dedicated to the game while the other runs all the other, less-demanding programs.
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Frodo_lives
Ascalonian Squire
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It has nothing to do with your computer. It's a matter of network connection speed and you will find that it comes and goes for no apparent reason.
I've been having the same problem recently, off and on.

Keep in mind that the speed/bandwidth that your internet connection is capable of, does not force other parts of the internet to work at that speed. Nor does it overcome any roadblocks caused by a faulty or overloaded hub somewhere. Nor does it overcome any delays that may be caused by ANet doing maintenance/upgrades on their equipment.
I also agree.
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makafri
Ascalonian Squire
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lol the problem is not the processor I have a atlon x2 4000 (2.0 ghz) and run the game without any problem... I had a problem with a processor like that sometime ago... the OS didn't recognize the 4 clocks... check that your 4 cores are working...

also you can try to restore your bios configuratio to the defaul settings... that helps sometimes when you move something without notice it...
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martinross
Ascalonian Squire
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I have an Intel E4500 Core 2 Duo 2,2 Ghz, 2 GB PC6400 4-4-4-12 Corsair RAM, 500 GB WD Green HD 5400-7200 Rpm, Sapphire HD4670, 10 mbit up/2 mbit down, and I load Riven Earth from Rata Sum in 2-3 secs.

Your system being stronger than mine, but mine loading faster, I don't think your hardware is the problem. More likely serverspeed and the like.
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Hotboxin240
Ascalonian Squire
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ATI cards have known load time issues, google it. It's not just with guild wars, but I've heard complaints on quite a few different games.

Thing is I thought the new drivers resolved the issues.