Newer Style Grawl Farming Outside Sledge?

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

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A few videos and some threads went around about Ranger's using mostly ranger skills to farm the Grawl outside Port Sledge.

Most of these the run's success depended alot on luck. The 1-2 builds that made videos and such about it all used AoE spells out of other classes to dmg fast enough.

So is this form of farming (the Grawl outside Sledge) profitable, and whats the best way to go around it now?

I've tryed a number of things. The main problem outside of obvious bad spawns with bosses and such, is keeping up my health under the health degen and that many grawl on me.

ghostlyranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

where is the video?

b4 the update(enemy run from aoe),
i can use whirling defense to kill grawl very fast,

now they just run away

Saider maul

Saider maul

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Baltimore, Maryland

ignite rrows keep them running instead of attacking lay trap when they run back dualshot when they hit trap an watch the quad shot destroy them

Former Ruling

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saider maul
ignite rrows keep them running instead of attacking lay trap when they run back dualshot when they hit trap an watch the quad shot destroy them You assume that when you hit Ignite Arrows they'll all just flee for 2 seconds. WRONG.

When they flee, the ones behind them come up and attack, and thats assuming all of them even could flee - they bodyblock each other.

The strategies now have to be totally unrelient on AoE spells.

ghostlyranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

and if traps hit grawl crone, they transfer that negative condition back to u . gg

right now i think the best way, is just to use a R/W build to kill them.

unless u found a way to prevent the grawl from running from whirling defense+mark of pain.

Saider maul

Saider maul

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Baltimore, Maryland

sure the next in line is going to come at you. lighting reflexes rapid fire will make em dance over and over and strategic retreats after laying traps does work and if they transfer all conditions to you why don't they transfer blind to me from my throw dirt? I spent 2 months farming grawl as a tank and 2weeks as a ranger just so my guild would have a farming build for new comer rangers. making them run works fine but it is slow and requires you to dance as well. your biggest worry is wild blow breaking one of your stances.
I'd also try doing run from drok to port seem to be a lil better for drawing groups of 3-4.

E Power

E Power

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

New York City

Wisdom of the Raven [MyM]

A time where a warrior tank will come in handy .

ghostlyranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saider maul
sure the next in line is going to come at you. lighting reflexes rapid fire will make em dance over and over and strategic retreats after laying traps does work and if they transfer all conditions to you why don't they transfer blind to me from my throw dirt? I spent 2 months farming grawl as a tank and 2weeks as a ranger just so my guild would have a farming build for new comer rangers. making them run works fine but it is slow and requires you to dance as well. your biggest worry is wild blow breaking one of your stances.
I'd also try doing run from drok to port seem to be a lil better for drawing groups of 3-4. sigh i say grawl crone, seems that u never farm enough that area. try to trap grawl crone and see what happen.

i dun think grawl use wild blow, they use belly smash and dun end ur stance,

- edit -

i m too rude, everyone be happy

ubermancer

ubermancer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ghostlyranger
stop posting, u make urself look stupid. Dont you mean - "u make urself look stoopid"?

ghostlyranger

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by ubermancer
Dont you mean - "u make urself look stoopid"?




try to go there as a ranger and use throw dirt, the AI will transfer the blind back to u.

so as all the trap condition

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too rude

fiery

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Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

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i never thought of soloing the grawl... but i do farm grawl with 5 henchies though..the drops sometimes are good.. ranging from sup vigor to a gold max fellblade..depends on the drop rate..plus its a great plus to farm for materials.. and way easy if your low level looking to level up.. so you get to level...farm materials..get drops..and might be lucky enough to get something good..cant beat that..so yes grawl great place to farm.. but dont anyone

sartori

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4runner

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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Try Eoe and some Pure Spike damage, drop the aoe and concentrate fire on the crones, then the hammers dudes etc, etc, etc, as a r/w throw in Glads and whirling for defense and survivability and a condition remover, you should be fine can clear most out accept the azures and the imp mesmers all the way in the back, the monk boss when hes there and the Warrior boss tough, ive yet been able to take those guys out just not enough damage being dealt or sustainable damage the n energy mangaement become a problem, i usually just skip those 2 bosses!!! Takes about an hour to 1 1/2 hours to clear!!! ALot of dp'd but that why i have candy canes!!! lol A FRAMERS luck charm!!!

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

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I tried out this grawl farm build today [despite this video being pre-aoe nerf] and it still works, just not if that meany alana spawns.]

http://media.putfile.com/Bodies_000181 ---- credit goes to that guy who made it, his name is there the whole time.

[7 smite, 10 bm, 14{10+3+1] exp, 10[9+1] wilderness] -- bring a sup'd BM mask to cast EoE with [to get a lvl 14 cast out of it] and then switch back to your exp map..

it's kind of spawn reliant, but if you do it properly and get your timings down it's decently easy and a lot of fun, very quick & good XP.

And yeah, they run around a lot, but a few of them won't.. the key is to get as many warriors as you can!! xD.... about half of them will run around all crazy like, but half will stay and eat your AoE and feed it back to their cowardly teammates through EoE...

[tip: cancel your dodge out after 5 seconds or so or you will lose some of your aggro ]

Ninjutsu Honor Code

Ninjutsu Honor Code

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Holland

Sidon, Order of Assasins

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I can solo the grawl in sledge the only ones icant kill are the warrior boss (to much hp but if i bring interupt hes dead aswell but makes build unbalanced )and the monk boss. Dealing with the conditions is soooo easy its just give them something to play with like bleeding or poison u should easily spam some condtions on them after and finsih them, if you need help farming sledge pm me ingame il show you how

Sol_Vie

Sol_Vie

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

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There's some video out there that I keep intending to refind. It's a ranger using EoE to kill around 60 grawl in that area. It was quite impressive. Not very good drops he said, but that's a lot of bodies. He had Throw Dirt, Whirling Defenses, EoE, and Oath Shot on his bar, but I can't remember what else or how he did the actual killing... time to go search.

**EDIT**
Wow I can't find it anywhere! I have found references to it and the build itself... but the actual thread where it was described is nowhere to be found. It had a video and all, which was a huge help. It's a difficult farming build.

I found a semi reference/explanation of a build very similar here.

However, the build I remember used no non ranger skills. I know I have the video on my computer somewhere... maybe if I'm nice I'll watch it tomorrow and post my observations.

If we want to find the original post, we might need some help from the almight Savio, the God of Searching.

Xion

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Goda Vos

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please post it here after searching as well

it seems very interesting

and iirc, he used some sort of choke point that only allowed a few of the hammer ones to attack him at once, while the rest are bunched up uselessly behind

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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I use this build for farming the grawls:

R/X

Oath Shot {E}
Whirling Defence
Lightning Reflexes
Throw Dirt
Troll Unguent
Dodge
EoE
Optional Skill.

You don't need any other damage skill than Whirling Defence.
This can be done with every second profession:
Mesmer: Ether Feast (if things get a little tense)
Elementalist: Aftershock (for the knockdown)
Warrior: Healing sig (if things go bad)
Necromancer: Any health stealing skill.
Monk: Symbol of Wrath.

fiery

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maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

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dont grawl wild blow your stances?

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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Nope, my stances have never been interrupted. All the melee grawls pile up on me, so the ones being hit by Whirling Defence can't run because their friends block.

xxSilhouette

xxSilhouette

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lost in the sands of time...

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

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So is this type of farming very profitable?

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol_Vie
There's some video out there that I keep intending to refind. It's a ranger using EoE to kill around 60 grawl in that area. It was quite impressive. Not very good drops he said, but that's a lot of bodies. He had Throw Dirt, Whirling Defenses, EoE, and Oath Shot on his bar, but I can't remember what else or how he did the actual killing... time to go search.

**EDIT**
Wow I can't find it anywhere! I have found references to it and the build itself... but the actual thread where it was described is nowhere to be found. It had a video and all, which was a huge help. It's a difficult farming build.

I found a semi reference/explanation of a build very similar here.

However, the build I remember used no non ranger skills. I know I have the video on my computer somewhere... maybe if I'm nice I'll watch it tomorrow and post my observations.

If we want to find the original post, we might need some help from the almight Savio, the God of Searching. You are refering to "Bodies" - and that guy uses a Monk AoE spell for his dmg skill in the video.

jammr_m32

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by xxSilhouette
So is this type of farming very profitable? I go out there quite a bit to try different builds and I haven't found it to be very profitable at all. I've had several major vigors and some superior runes, but none really worth much. Gold and purple items are a rarity as well and I've never received anything very valuable. Once in a while I will get a Shiverpeak key, but I'm not into chest farming so I just sell them.

If you're looking for materials, it's pretty good - each run will pretty much fill your inventory with items to salvage.

Lex Talionis

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

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Wtf Is Guildwars [Duno]

I dont think grawl farming is very profitable just an annoying waste of time. I've never gotten a single rare or purple after slaughtering half the grawl in that area including the bosses several times. I use a w/n build wit plague touch + interupt plague signet using savage slash. So while they're easy to kill they usually drop crap. I suggest soloing fissure of woe, it's a helluva alot more profitable than these grawl

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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If I am lucky I can get about 1k on each run. And 1 run lasts 2 - 3 minutes. I occasionally get a purple or rare rune so I'd say this is NOT a waste of time.

ShadowVoid

ShadowVoid

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Florida

Forsaken Wanderers

Mo/W

hehehe this is all nice info and all but im just a regular farmer and i see no prob with just taking myself and some henchies, i always always always get a some purp runes,blue runes everyother run get a gold run and sometimes gold weapons and such.

realy never tried some special build, cuz the henchies work just fine with me

4runner

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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Mo/N

I farm this area for salvage, thats it!! Materials galore!! And ive got a max dam Fiery Sword pretty decent mods, gold staffs, and some other decent weapons! But you have to kill the imps and azures in the way back!! Thats normally where the good drops are!! Pretty hard though with a ranger to kill those fukerss!!!

Farming is meant to be done with one or 2 people to maximize drops and Xp!

xxSilhouette

xxSilhouette

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lost in the sands of time...

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarion Silverhand
If I am lucky I can get about 1k on each run. And 1 run lasts 2 - 3 minutes. I occasionally get a purple or rare rune so I'd say this is NOT a waste of time. Agreed...making around 1k in 3 minutes is definatly not a waste of time.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

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Ok, My story.

I experimented alittle and finally got a build that works how it should (quite similar to the "Bodies" build).

PROBLEM THOUGH....After looking at the video and looking at my own screen as I farmed it once...I figured something out - There are ALOT less Grawl (specifically the warrior ones) in that area.

Problem with this? I can barely EVER get enough warriors on me so that when they die the Crone's die (from EoE) - they always have about 1/3 or less health left because not enough warriors died to fully kill them.

This also means that not as much loot drops..because of the sheer lessened number of enemies, and the loot is always horrible (except for materials). NOTHING over blue in color dropped in 20 minutes of farming.

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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Just make sure to lure all the groups in the area. Including the boss group. This gets about 12 Melee grawls on me, so all the grawls go down when the first 2 dies.

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

EoE has an annoying issue, if you kill mobs that you dont aggro they will rarely, if ever, drop anything. Discovered that during the Wintersday event when I was farming gargoyles for their skulls ouside Nolani and it should apply here as well.

Kasissia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/Mo

Can someone give me some tips lol?
I keep dying and whenever i use symbol of wrath, they all run

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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Throw in another healin skill. Whirling defence is enough

Former Ruling

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarion Silverhand
Throw in another healin skill. Whirling defence is enough Whirling is NOT enough dmg on its own usually - sorry.

Kasissia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/Mo

Er... so do i use two healing spells or not?

Anyways my build:
Symbol of wrath
Healing breeze/troll unguent
Whirling
Lightning reflexes
Dodge
Oath shot (Elite)
Eoe
Throw Dirt

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
Whirling is NOT enough dmg on its own usually - sorry. It really depends on the boss spawn. If the monk spawns that doesn't mean it's impossible to do it. It just takes a little longer to outdamage it.
I've been using Whirling defence and EoE as my only dmg skills. Nothing else. Troll is better than Healing Sig, because you can't get your tactics very high and Troll is better against degen.

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Xiaxhou of Trinity

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CA

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Which would be preferred? Glads with whirling or Greater Conflag with Drakescale armor?