Title Tomes for sale

dts720666

dts720666

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

E/Me

I'm sure Title Tomes have already been suggested, but this may be a new twist, which "sweetens the pot" for ANet.

First, a "Title Tome" is like a skill Tome. While a skill tome allows a character to learn a skill that is already unlocked on the account, a Title tome would allow a character to gain a title that a different character has already earned.

Clearly, this would only be for titles that are not "account based." So, for example, I have one character with Survivor and a different character with Legendary Defender of Ascalon. However, I chose a third character to work on God Walking Among Mere Mortals. I am currently stalled out at 28 titles and am grinding out two LOOOONG titles to try to finish GWAMM. It would be GREAT to get two title tomes and finish GWAMM. I've already done the work, just on different characters.

But here's the benefit for ANet...rather than make these random drops from killing foes, make them available through the store as a micro-transaction, and make them untradable. That way, people cannot "sell" them.

I think $10 per tome would be about right, though I personally might pay as much as $20 each.

Mora

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

You hear people complaining about "money titles," where they just buy each title (sweet, party, drunkard, wisdom, zaishen, etc), and you want to make it possible for "real money titles."

No, sorry.

Eragon Zarroc

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Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

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mmmmm, very tempting. I would prolly pay for one or two to get survivor on my war who was around before titles existed, but it would be unfair for people who actually had to grind out to GWAMM before being able to get something like this.

like it, but /notsigned because it just isn't fair

Gabriel of Ravn

Gabriel of Ravn

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Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

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Sweet, drunkard, and party animal bought by anyone nty they aren't that difficult to get just time consuming on the drunkard.

/notsigned

Cuilan

Cuilan

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Join Date: Mar 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabriel of Ravn View Post
Sweet, drunkard, and party animal bought by anyone nty they aren't that difficult to get
Please feel free to share a couple of your many stacks of ecto with us non-farmers.

Del

Del

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Originally Posted by Cuilan View Post
Please feel free to share a couple of your many stacks of ecto with us non-farmers.
easy to say something that easy is hard if you don't want to put forth the effort to farm, or trade to buy the titles, but they really aren't difficult to get. maybe GW should get a welfare system so the lazy can haz money too.

dts720666

dts720666

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mora View Post
You hear people complaining about "money titles," where they just buy each title (sweet, party, drunkard, wisdom, zaishen, etc), and you want to make it possible for "real money titles."
As it is, the titles you refer to are "real money titles" anyway, since most people seem to be buying GW gold from the Korean gold farm internet sites. This way, maybe ANet can cut down on some of that, and get a bit of money for themselves.

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Originally Posted by Del View Post
easy to say something that easy is hard if you don't want to put forth the effort to farm, or trade to buy the titles, but they really aren't difficult to get. maybe GW should get a welfare system so the lazy can haz money too.
YES! We can have GW socialism! We need to "spread the wealth"!!!!

SunfallE

SunfallE

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2009

West Texas

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

R/Rt

/not signed

If I'm going to spend more real money on the game, I'd spend it on costumes or something that doesn't inflate one's title via one's pocketbook.

Nerel

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Join Date: Jun 2008

Australia, what you want my home address?

[CAT]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Del View Post
easy to say something that easy is hard if you don't want to put forth the effort to farm, or trade to buy the titles, but they really aren't difficult to get. maybe GW should get a welfare system so the lazy can haz money too.
Wait, you want the XTH back?

Title tomes /notsigned

Really, selling titles in the online store for cash is just fail, titles are meant to be something of an achievement... remembering your credit card details isn't any sort of achievement worth celebrating...

Shayne Hawke

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Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dts720666 View Post
So, for example, I have one character with Survivor and a different character with Legendary Defender of Ascalon. However, I chose a third character to work on God Walking Among Mere Mortals. I am currently stalled out at 28 titles and am grinding out two LOOOONG titles to try to finish GWAMM. It would be GREAT to get two title tomes and finish GWAMM. I've already done the work, just on different characters.
If you're using a chance to put Survivor and LDoA on the same character as an example, you probably haven't been paying attention to Riverside lately. Long story short, ANet has no intention of allowing characters to hold both of those titles, and they likely won't be implementing any system to do so. Ever.

Quote:
But here's the benefit for ANet...rather than make these random drops from killing foes, make them available through the store as a micro-transaction, and make them untradable. That way, people cannot "sell" them.

I think $10 per tome would be about right, though I personally might pay as much as $20 each.
[size=overathousand]No.[/size] Purchasing title progress with real life money is not something I want to see happen, and isn't something that I feel is going to be healthy for the game. I'll chance it and say that ANet would rather have you all grinding and playing the game for years than let you buy up your progress and see you leave after a matter of months.

reaper with no name

reaper with no name

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

FaZ

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/signed on the condition that it ONLY applies to titles which provide mechanical benefits, such as Asura or Lightbringer. Any "bling" titles should have to be earned the old fashioned way.

In fact, for such mechanically based titles I wouldn't even require another character on the account to have achieved them.

Shriketalon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Del View Post
easy to say something that easy is hard if you don't want to put forth the effort to farm, or trade to buy the titles, but they really aren't difficult to get. maybe GW should get a welfare system so the lazy can haz money too.
The problem with drunkard isn't getting the ale. It's sitting on one's rear drinking it, all the while thinking "Why shouldn't I bot this?"

Horace Slughorn

Horace Slughorn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2008

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Yes. And a mini unlock pack for $100. Then its just a matter of saving up your allowance before you win GW

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dts720666 View Post
But here's the benefit for ANet...rather than make these random drops from killing foes, make them available through the store as a micro-transaction, and make them untradable. That way, people cannot "sell" them.
This is where your idea went to shit.

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Originally Posted by Cuilan View Post
Please feel free to share a couple of your many stacks of ecto with us non-farmers.
He's right, just look at all the people with god walking. I've got a few stacks lying around, but it sure ain't from farming trolls back in the day which is IIRC the only farming i've ever done in my time on gdubs, don't assume.

Del

Del

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Originally Posted by Shriketalon View Post
The problem with drunkard isn't getting the ale. It's sitting on one's rear drinking it, all the while thinking "Why shouldn't I bot this?"
did you even pay attention to what i was responding to or are you just farming up your most count?

talon994

talon994

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Join Date: Mar 2009

Ontario,Canada

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Del View Post
easy to say something that easy is hard if you don't want to put forth the effort to farm, or trade to buy the titles, but they really aren't difficult to get. maybe GW should get a welfare system so the lazy can haz money too.
I want GW welfare now....

OT: Go buy the costumes and dance around like a fairy. We don't need to be given more items to buy through the store.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

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Believe it or not, The good people of A-Net want you to play the game.

Just.nl

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Join Date: Nov 2007

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Ohh yess then you can get 12x GWAMM!

/notsigned. This would really destroy the "GWAMM" title. Then you can have it 12 times for 30 titles you maxed. So not an great idea imo.

And you dont even need Survivor or LDoA to reach GWAMM, so why bother if you dont have those titles?

Terrible Surgeon

Terrible Surgeon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2009

hopper

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Titles are tainted enough and meaningless enough as they are. You're making them even more meaningless with this idea.

/not signed

calamari cruiser

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

In the Land Of Great Beer

Rock

W/Mo

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Probably the worst idea i ever saw anywhere. Seriously. You are joking right?
If you arnt you should go back to playing with your teddy bear or something.

Titles are so easy already its lame as it is and you want to make it buyable?
You can get gwamm in a matter of months.

And no you dont need to be rich to get gwamm.
Most i ever had at a time was 500kish lol :P
But usualy more like 50k unless if im savign for something ^^

PS: i dont have survivor or ldoa on my war either :P
PPS: The money needed for drunkard, sweet and party can be obtained in a few weeks of relaxed farming :P

Sharkinu

Sharkinu

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Join Date: Dec 2008

Romania

Smells Like Bear Spirit [Norn]

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A sin with LDoA? NO!

Mintha Syl

Mintha Syl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2010

Are you serious? Really, I yhought playing the game involved you playing it.

/not signed

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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I read the suggestion as:

-character A has Legendary Survivor
-buy the title tome in the shop for 10$
-use the title tome on character B
-character B now has Legendary Survivor
-character A loses Legendary Survivor

So there is no buying of titles. You still need to get the title on one of your characters. Correct me if I'm wrong, OP.

Gill Halendt

Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Some sort of a "Star of Transference" for titles?

Tenebrae

Tenebrae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Spain

LHV

R/N

/notsignedlikehell . Ppl should stop making threads with suggestion only based on "i want my cookie faster" .... inb4close.

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Del View Post
easy to say something that easy is hard if you don't want to put forth the effort to farm
There isn't any or that much effort to farming. It's all about enduring boredom.

Del

Del

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2009

In a van, down by the river.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuilan View Post
There isn't any or that much effort to farming. It's all about enduring boredom.
whatever it is, not farming isn't the game's fault, it's yours for bring lazy. the titles are ezpz.

Aldric

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

[IG]

R/

/not signed.

What a really really terrible suggestion. If you want a title on a character then go do it.

Kosar The Cruel

Kosar The Cruel

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Join Date: Feb 2010

Ontario, Canada

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I know I'm quite the lazy player but, even this has never crossed my mind. Most titles aren't that hard to get. Some just require a bit more time or money.

/notsigned

Gabriel of Ravn

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduin View Post
I read the suggestion as:

-character A has Legendary Survivor
-buy the title tome in the shop for 10$
-use the title tome on character B
-character B now has Legendary Survivor
-character A loses Legendary Survivor

So there is no buying of titles. You still need to get the title on one of your characters. Correct me if I'm wrong, OP.
To my understanding of the OP they meant for example: Life of the Party on 1 toon I then go to buy a "Title Tome" and instantly get Life of the Party on another toon I use the tome with.

As OP said these would be mutually exclusive titles only but even so those are usually the easiest to get compared to most account titles.

/notsigned again

Deviant Angel

Deviant Angel

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Join Date: Apr 2006

On a boat!

Homeless.

Mo/

Enduring boredom? I don't know about the rest of you, but I can't say that any game feels fresh and exciting after I've played the hell out of it for several years. Even the games that get regular content updates start to feel stale after a while. People need to learn how to pack up and move onto something else when games are no longer a source of entertainment.

Anet has already done their part to make some of the titles easier. The market is flooded with cheap alcohol, sweets, and party stuff thanks to Nicholas and special events. The Kurzick/Luxon titles may take a little time, but they are a lot easier than they used to be. Some of you need to suck it up and accept that you have to work for some of the things you want.

I understand that LDoA takes a very long time and survivor wasn't a possibility for most pre-Factions characters, but I don't think we need the ability to transfer these titles to other characters for the sake of making GWAMM easier. Many of us were capable of hitting 30 without either of those titles.

I'm going with a big fat /unsigned on this one!

rick1027

rick1027

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/R

im going with /unsigned
although i would have gwamm with this suggestion i have thirty or more different titles finished across my account. this would gwamm too easy for me. i sit at 20 titles on one char and three other with enough different titles to bring that char to gwamm it just wouldnt feel like an accomplishment to me getting gwamm this way. i choose how to spread out my titles amongst my characters so i feel i really havent earned gwamm in my heart. when i do eventually get gwamm with one or more of my characters i want to feel that accomplishment in my heart

Drake Slasher

Drake Slasher

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

MoO

D/W

/notsigned
titles used to be something u would get for achieving something in game on a given char,transfering accomplishments from char A to char B just doesn't make sense. They already changed wisdom,treasure to account wide, come on ppl, paying to make a title acc wide is almost like buying ectos for real money..

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

/unsigned

It would allow me to get GWAMM on ALL my characters instantly. All this would do is make ALL titles account based. There was a reason they didn't do that. Treasure Hunter and Lucky/Unlucky were changed to be account based because people complained about it. But people also complained about Drunk, Sweet, and Party, as well as a few others.

Ghost Dog

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

W/

Did you just recommend a micro transaction?

Do us a favor and go back to making batshit insane ideas for your real hobbies because you certainly are no gamer.

Del

Del

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2009

In a van, down by the river.

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Originally Posted by Ghost Dog View Post
Did you just recommend a micro transaction?

Do us a favor and go back to making batshit insane ideas for your real hobbies because you certainly are no gamer.
micro-transactions are nowhere near as bad as monthly fees. and that doesn't even slightly have anything to do with why this idea is so stupid.

Neith

Neith

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Join Date: Jun 2008

Texas

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Quote:
Originally Posted by GABRIEL OF RAVN
Sweet, drunkard, and party animal bought by anyone nty they aren't that difficult to get.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuilan View Post
Please feel free to share a couple of your many stacks of ecto with us non-farmers.
He never said it wasn't pricey or that he has that much money to spend. there are other ways of getting those titles. He said TIME CONSUMING. He may be doing it the slow way of getting the items from Zaishen stuff, event drops, festival drops.

Oh...and to the OP....ummm...NO just NO...no word describes it better then...NO
/notsigned

tonini

tonini

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Join Date: Jun 2007

Retired from guildwars for good:D

[]

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of all the dumb things to do with your money you would rather spend real life money than spend ingame gold i think you should quit before your addicted oh no wait lol

and this is just another easy way out made by players who dont want to play

Doubt it if anet cares whether u get gods or not. Also not everyone is meant to have gods they already made it easy enough when they added party and zaishen

spending rl $$ to save ingame money WTF?? /notsigned

Ghost Dog

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Del View Post
micro-transactions are nowhere near as bad as monthly fees. and that doesn't even slightly have anything to do with why this idea is so stupid.
I disagree, I fully support a f2p game it's a fantastic idea, but micro transactions are an extremely slippery slope.

Charging to the point that I would rather pay a monthly fee and have 5 star support rather than meaningless micro costumes funding some crap like WIK.

Monthly fee = premium support.

Micro transactions = attempts to project profit without the ability to invest.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Agreed. Microtransactions are slippery slopes, way worse then P2P. At least P2P is predictable. Microtransactions can throw shit at you at any time and change your "well I can afford this" to "you want how much?" at the drop of a hat. With P2P you know what you are getting into. Microtransactions can cause you to fall behind if you don't pay up at any time.

For example, DLCs. Companies used to just release new content/maps. Now, 15 bucks for 4 multiplayer shooter maps.
Want to play Madden 11 online? Well, you are going to have to have a $10 online pass to use a feature that has always been included in games for free.
How about those DLCs that some people pay for that are actually just unlocks for content that is ALREADY ON THE FREAKIN DISK YOU BOUGHT! That's right. You don't "download" anything in this downloadable content. Instead, you pay the company money, and they give you access to something that was already included in the product you purchased.

Once you start having to spend 30-40 dollars per game to unlock "content" that older generations of games would have included in the original purchasing price, I start telling certain game developers to go to hell.