For the future of Guild Wars 2

Do you know how an aimbot works in an FPS? That's what we're going up against.

Not in PvP. A better comparison would be whether professional gaming leagues tolerate aimbot usage in their FPS events.

Seems to me an indication of the change in Anet's priorities. Obviously despite what Anet says, GW2 will not be a serious/legitimate esport if they can't even fix what they started in GW1 regarding botting.

This isn't a Diablo forum so you can search for that yourself.

I worry because I want GW2 to be good, not easily compromised by hackers. Why wouldn't I worry? With everything gone wrong in GW1 I think I SHOULD be worried lol.

You can't have a serious e-sport where major competitions are played over the Internet. That's the other half of the problem.

You can click to move in WoW. If the reason GW2 has no CTM is because they are adding a proper z-axis (I haven't read this anywhere, so I'm not sure of where exactly you are coming from), then I'm going to be cracking a whole lot more jokes about their programmers than I already do.

True that. I faintly remember that in the early days of GW tournaments were played in person at conventions after qualifying rounds or such? Or was that just sealed deck?

I don't know what the definition of a "proper z-axis" is or why its so much better than what games such as WoW use, but it is true and confirmed (although subject to change as anything) that there will be no click to move in GW2. If I have your meaning correct, you can begin the onslaught of jokes on Anet.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2
You can find it under controls.

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/click-move-t88.html
And here's a discussion about it.

they are doing stuff in gw1... war in kryta ring a bell???

It's only the passionate hardcore that really care which is a minority issue.

GW2 will sell like hotcakes, regardless of the fact a few jaded vets have had their noses put out of place or feel that Anet is obligated to cater to their every need or complaint, justifiable or not.

To think otherwise is highly delusional.

These problems would have more merit if they had been a release issue, as opposed to ones that occurred 5 years down the track.

GW has also changed it's focus to more PvE orientated content which has made these issues even less relevant considering this also appears to be the way GW2 is going.

They also have more money than they know what to do with.

A "proper z-axis" is defined as "not the shit Guild Wars has". It's not "better that what games such as WoW use", it is what games such as WoW use.

At any rate, I am fully aware that GW2 will not feature CTM. I am questioning why NN implied that it is because ArenaNet is finally getting with the times and making an engine with a proper z-axis, like nearly every other game on the market has featured for years. I have read nothing from ArenaNet stating that the reason for CTM being axed was linked to their decision to create an engine that doesn't allow body-blocking from underneath bridges.

I have bad news for you, I wasn't implying anything. lol

Then if you would be so kind as to post a source...

Guys I'm from the future and the game sucks anyway.

NN, the discussion on GW2G was purely opinionated. It was more of an open question to see if people didn't mind losing C2M when given a Z-Axis with WASD-only movement. There is nothing stopping the Z-Axis and C2M from existing together in the same game. As Theo suggests, if for some odd reason Anet can't implement both for coding reasons then I'd have to agree that their programmers are very laughable. However, I'm guessing that the reason C2M was axed was due to design purposes. If you've been following the GW2 info releases (which I'm shamefully behind on), you'll realize that they're trying hard to complete re-innovate and reinvent Guild Wars. Getting rid of C2M was no doubt a design decision, and after reading about how they plan on making skill combos and combat work it really doesn't surprise me.

Basically, in no way shape or form are Click-to-Move and having a Z-Axis mutually exclusive. Getting rid of Click-to-Move was most likely a design decision and has nothing to do with coding problems caused between having both of them in the same game.

I'm not sure what source your asking for, I said they should get with the times on botting prevention but in regards to click to move I only said I didn't like it.

Man every time I see you post its utter crap, people are asking anet to enforce the rules they set instead of printing off a sheet of bot reports and playing a dart board game where they ban the bot that dart hits.
I don't see how anyone can ignore or play gw1-2 pvp ruled by bots.

Yeah that became apparent when they decided removing 2 pvp arenas and adding one only played by bots now was a good idea. It took me 2 months to get all the pve titles for my main so how exactly are there people doing pve for 5 years?

The War in Kryta is stuff? I haven't seen anything yet......

Then......wut?

If your comment on CTM was completely unrelated, then why was it in the same sentence that was started in response to something completely unrelated to CTM?

psyoumessedupthatthirdquote

They actually added in new shining blade weapons in the last update that aren't out yet I cant wait to see it.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:Zora/Gwdat

Alright I was under the impression that it was mutually exclusive and the z-axis being added was the reason click to move was being removed for features like swimming and underwater exploration in gw2.
Thanks for the heads up on the quote mistake.

Hmm....seems like I still haven't seen anything yet.

There not the only thing added, check out the update thread it has screen shots of the weapons.