Is being in a guild worth it?
dreamer2008
I am curious because I can't find sufficient reason to be in a guild. I have GW complete since about a month ago, and I am enjoying very much the Pve part of the game, and I've stayed in a guild for about a week, but I didn't know what to expect from it. I didn't actually need any help with anything, mostly because I could find the help I needed in the mission areas, objects I can find on my own, and for now I am too weak for pvp. I wanted at least socialization but mostly the people in the guild ignored me when I tried to talk, so that was out of the question and the alliance was big and silent. I am confused, can you please explain what I am supposed to expect of a guild to make it a fun experience?
Eragon Zarroc
short answer, ABSOLUTELY!
Long answer, it is sometimes hard to find one that fits just right. all guilds come in a variety of flavors. You have your laid back guilds that just mess around here and there in gw. On the opposite side, you have your high-end, speed clear everyday guilds with strict requirements to join. You have guilds that do rolepleying. You have guilds that are filled with new players still learning the game.
For me, I enjoy being in a guild that ues vent majorily to communicate. It is so much better for communication and general socializing. I find just using chat to be cumbersome and misrepresentative of what people are truly like.
You just have to look for the guild that suits you and your wants, desires, and what you are looking to get out of this game. Browsing through the guild recruitment thread is a good way to get a general feel of some guilds that are looking for players. however, sometimes it takes a few tries before you finally find a guild that you finally enjoy being in ;-)
good luck on your search if you decide to look for a guild.
p.s. making your own guilds is always an option too
but being a guild leader of an active and large guild requires quite a bit of time dedication. ;-)
Long answer, it is sometimes hard to find one that fits just right. all guilds come in a variety of flavors. You have your laid back guilds that just mess around here and there in gw. On the opposite side, you have your high-end, speed clear everyday guilds with strict requirements to join. You have guilds that do rolepleying. You have guilds that are filled with new players still learning the game.
For me, I enjoy being in a guild that ues vent majorily to communicate. It is so much better for communication and general socializing. I find just using chat to be cumbersome and misrepresentative of what people are truly like.
You just have to look for the guild that suits you and your wants, desires, and what you are looking to get out of this game. Browsing through the guild recruitment thread is a good way to get a general feel of some guilds that are looking for players. however, sometimes it takes a few tries before you finally find a guild that you finally enjoy being in ;-)
good luck on your search if you decide to look for a guild.
p.s. making your own guilds is always an option too
but being a guild leader of an active and large guild requires quite a bit of time dedication. ;-)
Covah
Most people are in guilds now for friends and people to talk too. Also after doing missions and things they want to do elite areas which you can't (for the most part) do alone. People also join guilds to work on titles since there isn't really alot to do after you've explored the game.
If you are a casual player and don't want to expand into the guild scene and expand your knowledge of the game and make lots of money/titles then you don't have too. You aren't paying to play the game every month so no one is forcing you to play. You can just log on, explore, then log off if you really want to.
If you are a casual player and don't want to expand into the guild scene and expand your knowledge of the game and make lots of money/titles then you don't have too. You aren't paying to play the game every month so no one is forcing you to play. You can just log on, explore, then log off if you really want to.
tijo
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short answer, ABSOLUTELY!
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I suggest you check the recruiting sections here in the forums, you might just find a guild that suits you.
dreamer2008
Thank you all for the answers, but still I don't know what I should expect once I am in a guild.
Anime Divine
What the others said. And what to expect?? Nothing really. Its just fun to play with one more person or more people especially if they have like unlocked everything.
And they can help you giving you advice.
Just dont expect anything from help to conversation in guild.
. Ocasionally you will meet people you enjoy playing with. Thats what makes the game fun.
And if people really ignore you well there are hundreds of guild to choose.
And they can help you giving you advice.
Just dont expect anything from help to conversation in guild.
. Ocasionally you will meet people you enjoy playing with. Thats what makes the game fun.
And if people really ignore you well there are hundreds of guild to choose.
Arm
being in a guild is definately worth it. As far as what u can expect it depends on what guild u join, and this is exactly why it is worth it. Guilds are set up by players normally for specific reasons, there are guilds that take all comers but most are focused on specific areas of game playing. If u like sc's there are guilds that focus on that, if u like pvp be it ha or jq/fa/ab whatever there are guilds devoted to that. If u need to farm your kurz/lux faction there are guilds like that. There are also guilds built on the necessity to joke around on vent. When u know what u want to do for fun in the game search that type of guild and u will eventually find like-minded individuals that share your idea of fun. It may take a few "trys" to find the right one, but keep at it and u will find the guild u are looking for.
GL searching
GL searching
Arduin
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Thank you all for the answers, but still I don't know what I should expect once I am in a guild.
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But then, you first need to know what you want from a guild.
dreamer2008
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There's nothing to 'expect' when in a guild. The only way to find out of a guild fits, is to join it.
But then, you first need to know what you want from a guild. |
Uriel_Wolfblood
If the guild your in is ignoring you leave. 
The fun from being in a guild/alliance is the interaction. So try and find a guild that suits you.
Also if you plan on trying to do some of the higher end places (UW, FOW, The Deep, Urgoz, DoA, etc.) a guild is almost a necessity in order to form a proper group.
All in all the Guild in Guild Wars can be a part of the game that makes all the grind worthwhile. But only if you find one that is actually worthwhile.
The fun from being in a guild/alliance is the interaction. So try and find a guild that suits you. Also if you plan on trying to do some of the higher end places (UW, FOW, The Deep, Urgoz, DoA, etc.) a guild is almost a necessity in order to form a proper group.
All in all the Guild in Guild Wars can be a part of the game that makes all the grind worthwhile. But only if you find one that is actually worthwhile.
dreamer2008
Alright, so it seems from your replies that I need to find a proper guild for me then I will find out what's great about guilds . Thank you for your advices and info.
. Thank you for your advices and info.
Arzock
Any of the TIG guild are great, they are friendly and all that. I go looking out for them if I were you.
Essence Snow
There are soo many different types of guilds out there that you can find one that suits u best. Some will be based more so on activities, some on interactions. Some will have rude ppl, some will not. Some will focus on certain aspects, some will be more generalized. There are so many, you are bound to find one u like.
Since it seems you have no need for aid...might I suggest simply going for the most friendly guild u can.
Since it seems you have no need for aid...might I suggest simply going for the most friendly guild u can.
MagmaRed
There are many different reasons to be in a guild. If you want it to help get through missions and quests, you can find them. If you want it to have people available for PvP (HA and GvG) you can find them. If you want them for people to do speed clears with, you can find them. If you want them to socialize with even when not playing together, you can find them.
The problem isn't whether a guild that fits your needs exists, but in you finding it. If the ONLY thing you want out of a guild is to socialize, then I highly suggest you find something better to do with your time. If you have completed the games, have you done things like DoA, The Deep/Urgoz, Tombs, Sorrows Furnace, Slavers? Some of those are impossible to do without other people, and some are just very difficult. And if you don't have more things you want to do, why still play?
Just find a guild that does what you want to do, and it will be worth it. I recommend spending a LOT of time looking for a guild, and not playing. Take time to talk with people in a guild that is recruiting, see what they do, how active they are, when they are active, how big they are, what requirements they may have, etc. THEN, if you find a guild (or several) that answer those types of questions the way you want, ask them to include you in some activities to meet other members. Actually playing with them will give you more insight on how they work. Don't waste time with guilds spamming local chat in major cities, rarely do those guilds recruit quality people with similar interests.
The problem isn't whether a guild that fits your needs exists, but in you finding it. If the ONLY thing you want out of a guild is to socialize, then I highly suggest you find something better to do with your time. If you have completed the games, have you done things like DoA, The Deep/Urgoz, Tombs, Sorrows Furnace, Slavers? Some of those are impossible to do without other people, and some are just very difficult. And if you don't have more things you want to do, why still play?
Just find a guild that does what you want to do, and it will be worth it. I recommend spending a LOT of time looking for a guild, and not playing. Take time to talk with people in a guild that is recruiting, see what they do, how active they are, when they are active, how big they are, what requirements they may have, etc. THEN, if you find a guild (or several) that answer those types of questions the way you want, ask them to include you in some activities to meet other members. Actually playing with them will give you more insight on how they work. Don't waste time with guilds spamming local chat in major cities, rarely do those guilds recruit quality people with similar interests.
dreamer2008
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Originally Posted by Essence Snow
Since it seems you have no need for aid...might I suggest simply going for the most friendly guild u can.
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@MagmaRed
If I shouldn't waste time with guilds that spam in the cities, then where can I find a good guild except pve guild recruitment?
Trader of Secrets
Yes just find a guild that does stuff. If a guild does not serve you any purpose, leave it and find another. And usually when I go looking for a guild I ask how many members does the guild have and how many active sometimes. I usually find the guilds that concentrate on a small portion on of the game is most efficient, such as faction farming or speed clears.
MagmaRed
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Yes, that was my idea also, a big, mature and friendly guild. I am already searching in pve guild recruitment
@MagmaRed If I shouldn't waste time with guilds that spam in the cities, then where can I find a good guild except pve guild recruitment? |
Finding a good guild is partly luck, but mostly about using the proper search techniques. Guilds that spam in cities usually accept ANYONE, and many of those people dont' stay long. Those guilds are in constant flux, people leaving regularly and new people coming. Having a stable group of people means you know the ones that can do what you need/want and will be around when you are. Just because a guild is big does not mean it is good. May cause trouble for using this one, but I remember not too far back LaZy was ALWAYS recruiting, and in multiple places. You just couldn't go somewhere without seeing someone from LaZy recruiting. They were a HUGE alliance, but they were always recruiting because people didn't stay long.
So take time to find one that will do what you want to do, have people who play the way you do, and people who socialize in a way you enjoy. It may take a day, ir may take a couple months. But if you spend the time before joining doing the research, then you will be less likely to find yourself wanting to leave to look for a new one. So unless you like looking for a new guild, the time spent finding the right one is worth it.
Sookie
Before you go off to find a guild after all of this advice, you need to decide what YOU want from a guild, like an earlier gamer stated. Guilds are as different from each other as anyone could imagine.
Some guilds have member qualifications, while others will take anyone.
Some guilds have limits on how many members they want while others will recruit as many as possible just for the numbers.
Some guilds have a Code of Conduct and/or a set of Guild Rules while others are willy-nilly all over the place.
Some guilds are recruiting the first-time GW player and some will only consider the highly experienced player.
Some guilds are highly structured in their organizational hierarchy while others will promote anyone into a position of authority without qualification.
Some guilds like PvE activities and are bustling with activity 24/7 or are either Weekend Warriors, while other guilds are just 1 week from death due to inactivity.
Some guild recruiters will tell the truth about what is going on in their guilds, while others will lie through their teeth just to get you to join.
I could go on and on, but the important thing is that you must look at what you want to accomplish and then (and only then) get out there and find a group of people that are like you.
Some guilds have member qualifications, while others will take anyone.
Some guilds have limits on how many members they want while others will recruit as many as possible just for the numbers.
Some guilds have a Code of Conduct and/or a set of Guild Rules while others are willy-nilly all over the place.
Some guilds are recruiting the first-time GW player and some will only consider the highly experienced player.
Some guilds are highly structured in their organizational hierarchy while others will promote anyone into a position of authority without qualification.
Some guilds like PvE activities and are bustling with activity 24/7 or are either Weekend Warriors, while other guilds are just 1 week from death due to inactivity.
Some guild recruiters will tell the truth about what is going on in their guilds, while others will lie through their teeth just to get you to join.
I could go on and on, but the important thing is that you must look at what you want to accomplish and then (and only then) get out there and find a group of people that are like you.
dreamer2008
Thank you MagmaRed and Sookie for the detailed info. I guess in conclusion I will have to understand my play style and with what kind of players I can team up efficiently, and then try my best to find a good guild expecting to search for it for a long time. Hmm, something extra to think about besides my faculty exams .
At least I already know that I am an aggressive player, I like spikes, and pulverizing a big number of enemies as fast as possible, I hope that's a start to help me find a good guild for me .
. At least I already know that I am an aggressive player, I like spikes, and pulverizing a big number of enemies as fast as possible, I hope that's a start to help me find a good guild for me
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Tru Unid
There are some guilds out there that make you want to quit the game, but the good guilds make you want to play and it makes a enjoyable experience
xron
Sounds like you chose a poor guild to try.
If it wasn't for the guild I'm in I wouldn't play GW, or Aion either as much as it's worth.
For me the people in the guild are current, old, and potentially new friends. I have made some good friends in the guilds I've belonged to, and playing the game, chatting and having a laugh with them makes the gaming experience worthwhile.
Try finding yourself a nice guild with friendly, helpful people. Search around and try different guilds until you find the one that fits.
The best place to look is on the forums here, as the guilds who spam adverts in Kamadan and the like aren't generally going to be very sociable.
Hope this helps
If it wasn't for the guild I'm in I wouldn't play GW, or Aion either as much as it's worth.
For me the people in the guild are current, old, and potentially new friends. I have made some good friends in the guilds I've belonged to, and playing the game, chatting and having a laugh with them makes the gaming experience worthwhile.
Try finding yourself a nice guild with friendly, helpful people. Search around and try different guilds until you find the one that fits.
The best place to look is on the forums here, as the guilds who spam adverts in Kamadan and the like aren't generally going to be very sociable.
Hope this helps
wolfe faramir
Dreamer2008...Glad you asked the question about Guilds. Always wondered myself. I made my own Guild just for a place to go. I've been the only one in it for 3+ yrs (never wanted to run one or recruit anyone). I never play PvP for the same reason as you, but managed to earn GWAMM with little help.
Good luck with your search!
Good luck with your search!
DigitalFear
If it weren't for guilds I would've quit GW. Says enough I think.
Zebideedee
For me, Yes, short & sweet!
It's the same as on other games, once you find a guild that you enjoy being in or like minded people, the game becomes much more enjoyable. It's not required but will definetly enhance your GW's experience.
It's the same as on other games, once you find a guild that you enjoy being in or like minded people, the game becomes much more enjoyable. It's not required but will definetly enhance your GW's experience.
dreamer2008
Thank you all for the replies, I guess I will find out in time what's good about being in a guild, when I will find the right one for me.
dancing gnome
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Thank you all for the answers, but still I don't know what I should expect once I am in a guild.
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Socially, I've found smaller guilds are the best for forming good bonds with other players, but this takes time and occasionally playing together.
The best advice I can give for joining a Guild to play with them is find a Guild with a specific focus. More specific than PvE or PvP.
Faction Guilds - Usually part of big alliances and will often try to focus groups of players in Fort Aspenwood or Jade Quarry. They will also often from vanquishing groups for places like Mount Quinkai or w/e the Kurzick equivalent is.
Elite Mission Guilds - Usually focus on only one elite area. This will be something like Urgoz's Warren or the Deep, or Domain of Anguish. These guilds I find to be the best. They are often helpful for newer people and more forgiving with team builds for who they want to take into the mission to complete the content. Because they focus on the one area they usually know how to complete it and how to adjust the group for obscure classes or builds. They will usually do daily runs in their chosen mission, but occasionally will also do other areas.
Speed Clear Guilds - Good for people who want to make money. They can be really intense and unforgiving for new players but they will allow you to complete content you couldn't even dream of completing without a dedicated guild. My personal experience with these guilds is it's sink or swim, learn fast or go home.
tuna-fish_sushi
Its worth it just to stop getting all the spam asking you to join their guild.
Arduin
Quaker
To add my 2 cents:
As MagmaRed said, your problem is finding a guild that you enjoy. That could take a while, or you might get lucky, but it can be done. Don't be afraid to try out several Guilds until you find one you like.
You can expect to find a whole range of Guild types, from new guilds that cater to new players, to PvP guilds, to RP guilds, to old guilds where no-one really plays anymore. Some guilds will be very active at planning events, some will be very social, some will be very silent.
You could always join my guild - then we'd have 4 active players.
As MagmaRed said, your problem is finding a guild that you enjoy. That could take a while, or you might get lucky, but it can be done. Don't be afraid to try out several Guilds until you find one you like.
You can expect to find a whole range of Guild types, from new guilds that cater to new players, to PvP guilds, to RP guilds, to old guilds where no-one really plays anymore. Some guilds will be very active at planning events, some will be very social, some will be very silent.
You could always join my guild - then we'd have 4 active players.
dreamer2008
Thank you all again for the info . For now I'm not decided what to do about a guild so I will just play alone until I think I know what kind of guild would be appropriate for me (to really know my play style) , it seems the only way...
. For now I'm not decided what to do about a guild so I will just play alone until I think I know what kind of guild would be appropriate for me (to really know my play style) , it seems the only way...
MagmaRed
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Thank you all again for the info
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1) Do I want to play PvP or PvE?
2) Do I want a Kurzick or Luxon guild?
3) Do I want to work on titles, farm, or something else?
4) Do I want to play GvG, RA, HA, AB, or Codex?
5) Do I want to play with other people exclusively or just when I need help?
6) Do I want to work on elite zones (DoA, UW, FoW, etc.)?
7) Do I want to help other people or just get help?
Many of those I just listed have subset questions as well. But it really shouldn't be hard for you to determine what YOU want to do, then you should be able to figure out what a guild can offer you. All a guild does for you is provide you with people who have similar interests and goals. That doesn't mean they are exact, but that the people in the same guild have enough similarities that they can work together to accomplish what they each want.
Arduin
Also, it's not like by joining a Guild you are signing a contract are something equally binding. If you don't like the guild, leave the guild. But try to be polite about it.
dreamer2008
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Not to be rude, but this is an extremely easy thing to figure out, and why you struggle with it is beyond me. Just ask yourself basic questions. I'll give you a few, but since there are quite a few options, you will have to use these as a basis to ask the rest.
1) Do I want to play PvP or PvP? 2) Do I want a Kurzick or Luxon guild? 3) Do I want to work on titles, farm, or something else? 4) Do I want to play GvG, RA, HA, AB, or Codex? 5) Do I want to play with other people exclusively or just when I need help? 6) Do I want to work on elite zones (DoA, UW, FoW, etc.)? 7) Do I want to help other people or just get help? Many of those I just listed have subset questions as well. But it really shouldn't be hard for you to determine what YOU want to do, then you should be able to figure out what a guild can offer you. All a guild does for you is provide you with people who have similar interests and goals. That doesn't mean they are exact, but that the people in the same guild have enough similarities that they can work together to accomplish what they each want. |
@Arduin Yes I know it's not a contract but I don't want to be impolite, to make people lose time and virtual money because of me, so I prefer to enter guilds that I am sure that are worth trying to see if I could fit in.
Elephantaliste
Just give a try.
if your current guild or alliance doesn't fit you, just change. Be thankful and leave them, and add contacts in your FL.
You can stay in same alliance and change guild eventually.
Be sure to check their timezone.
If you are looking for socialization, check their age, it generally helps to find matching temperaments and subjects of discussions (you rather talk about school, games, cosmetic surgery, politics, about your mom or your children ? ^^).
If you are looking for a long term/perennial guild/alliance, check if they use any system to coordonate their activities. Forums / online calendars...
if your current guild or alliance doesn't fit you, just change. Be thankful and leave them, and add contacts in your FL.
You can stay in same alliance and change guild eventually.
Be sure to check their timezone.
If you are looking for socialization, check their age, it generally helps to find matching temperaments and subjects of discussions (you rather talk about school, games, cosmetic surgery, politics, about your mom or your children ? ^^).
If you are looking for a long term/perennial guild/alliance, check if they use any system to coordonate their activities. Forums / online calendars...
Quaker
Just to add a bit to MagmaRed's post:
I assume this is a misprint - should be "PvP or PvE". There are, of course, Guilds that specialize in one or the other, but also many that aren't that specific. Obviously though, you are not going to want to join a PvE guild if PvP is your main thing - or vice versa.
This is really only a Nighfall thing and it makes absolutely no real difference in play, especially if you are not into PvP. So don't base your choice of guild on it. Both Luxon allies and Kurzick allies can wear armor from the other, explore the other territory, etc. (And, contrary to what some may say, you don't become Kurzick or Luxon, you are simply allied with one or the other.)
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chaosincarnate87
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Jk Arrow
Find a guild with people that like to do the same things as you. And most importantly, have the same humor as you. You will find yourself sometimes logging in just to say hi and talk and laugh instead of actual game play.
I played single player for about 8 months of GW because I was nervous about joining a guild (this was my first MMOG). I've since made a lot of friends because of the guilds I've been in. Some don't even play GW anymore but we still talk.
I played single player for about 8 months of GW because I was nervous about joining a guild (this was my first MMOG). I've since made a lot of friends because of the guilds I've been in. Some don't even play GW anymore but we still talk.
wilebill
I played through Prophecies and Factions without a guild. Mostly solo. No problem.
Then in Nightfall out of the blue a group invited me. It turned out to be a guild group. After the run joined up, and it was the guild for me. Much more fun in a good guild that fits you.
Of course, it is all too easy to find really obnoxious stinking guilds. Or, guilds that are good but just not your kind of folks or just not your play style.
Same in WoW. I don't need a guild there either. But I have happened across some darn good ones that were a lot of fun.
Then in Nightfall out of the blue a group invited me. It turned out to be a guild group. After the run joined up, and it was the guild for me. Much more fun in a good guild that fits you.
Of course, it is all too easy to find really obnoxious stinking guilds. Or, guilds that are good but just not your kind of folks or just not your play style.
Same in WoW. I don't need a guild there either. But I have happened across some darn good ones that were a lot of fun.
MagmaRed
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This is really only a Factions thing and it makes absolutely no real difference in play, especially if you are not into PvP. So don't base your choice of guild on it. Both Luxon allies and Kurzick allies can wear armor from the other, explore the other territory, etc. (And, contrary to what some may say, you don't become Kurzick or Luxon, you are simply allied with one or the other.)
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I know you are aware it was a mistake, but just overlooked it when posting.
dreamer2008
Thanks again for all the good advices , they are really helpful. Good to know also that being Luxon or Kurzick doesn't matter much.
, they are really helpful. Good to know also that being Luxon or Kurzick doesn't matter much.