N/e
Arzock
Okay, so I'm gonna make a new character. I want an ELE, but the armor is all hiideous. So I'm gonna have a necro primary, will I be alright energy wise with SR?
Elephantaliste
Yes.......................
Senor Sarcastico
IMO, you'll have to use GoLE for high energy spell off the bat, but if you have high SR and are killing stuff fast ... I don't see a problem with energy.
My two cents ...
My two cents ...
Swahnee
Remember to use a hero minion bomber if you want to boost the energy gain from soul reaping
FengShuiDove
Nah, go A/E for AP.
Eragon Zarroc
you're energy will be ok but you will not be able to have proper attunements to help u out. And your dmg will be capped at 12 fire att.
Xsiriss
I think I smell the faint odour of malice and boredom...or maybe that's my wishful thinking that this IS a troll : /.
It won't be enough, if you want an ele you'll NEED to make an ele. Necro's can only abuse SR for a few healer builds like N/Rt.
It won't be enough, if you want an ele you'll NEED to make an ele. Necro's can only abuse SR for a few healer builds like N/Rt.
Uriel_Wolfblood
In the short run, sure I think you could pull off an ele using an necro. In the long run however, not so sure.
While soul reaping can provide energy, energy storage can provide a lot more versatility. Double attunment abilities make primary eles a much bigger threat. But do what you want, I always like seeing people wanting to try new things.
While soul reaping can provide energy, energy storage can provide a lot more versatility. Double attunment abilities make primary eles a much bigger threat. But do what you want, I always like seeing people wanting to try new things.
waeland
Yes, you can play N/E using mainly ele skills and SR for energy management. But at the beginning it is a bit harder (you will not have equipment to raise max energy enough to make it easier) and at higher levels it is actually easier to deal damage by curses (eles are limited by high armor).
Just remember - you can never switch primary, in Factions and Nightfall and in hard mode and high level areas you usually switch secondary often according area or mission needs. With necro primary you will never try famous E/Mo ER healer or ER N/Mo orders. On the other hand with ele primary you will never try for example N/A AP/MoP killing machine. So, I would advise to choose more based on which profession you want to play more than based on which armor you like most.
Just remember - you can never switch primary, in Factions and Nightfall and in hard mode and high level areas you usually switch secondary often according area or mission needs. With necro primary you will never try famous E/Mo ER healer or ER N/Mo orders. On the other hand with ele primary you will never try for example N/A AP/MoP killing machine. So, I would advise to choose more based on which profession you want to play more than based on which armor you like most.
dagrdagaz
Check wiki if there really r no Ele armors at all u like, then decide u dont wanna be Ele primary.
It may be premature to decide u dont wanna be Ele primary solely becos u dont like the starter Ele armor.
It may be premature to decide u dont wanna be Ele primary solely becos u dont like the starter Ele armor.
chaosincarnate87
Firstly you're making a mistake by chosing your primary because of armor as opposed to skills... armor appearance is the least important thing in the game... if you want to play as a certain profession then make that profession, dont handicap yourself by 4 attribute levels just because you want a particular armor, theres multiple character slots for a reason.
Arzock
I'd rather people gave me answers rather than telling me Armor appearance makes no difference.
Were did I say anything about starter ele armor?
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Xenomortis
If you want to play an Elementalist, you need to make an Ele primary.
If you want to play as a Necromancer, then make a Necro.
Some of the Ele armour isn't too bad. Male Nec armour has far less taste in general.
If you want to play as a Necromancer, then make a Necro.
Some of the Ele armour isn't too bad. Male Nec armour has far less taste in general.
Arzock
o.O All the ele armor looks the same, or worse.
Xenomortis
Really?
Some Male Ele armour:
Tyrian:
Elite Iceforged: 
Vabbian: 
Elite Canthan: 
Sure they share common themes, but they don't look identical.
Some Female armour:
Tyrian:
Elite Iceforged: 
Vabbian: 
Elite Canthan: 
Some Male Ele armour:
Tyrian:
Elite Iceforged: Vabbian: Elite Canthan: Sure they share common themes, but they don't look identical.
Some Female armour:
Tyrian:
Elite Iceforged: Vabbian: Elite Canthan:
Arzock
they are all pretty much the same shape, not very interesting, and the back shakes when you walk on most of them.
Mr. G
'Cause all necro doesn't look the same right? 
Arzock
Xenomortis
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If the former, then you've failed to construct a point. If the latter, then fair enough.
But enough, arguing aesthetics is generally fruitless.
Just be aware that a Necromancer can not do what the Elementalist can and vice versa.
Mr. G
All the same shape eh?
Anyway, seriously though - you should be able to survive as a N/E, but you will be crippling yourself compared to making a straight E.
MagmaRed
If you want to play as an Elementalist, then make an Elementalist. Armor should not be the basis for a character class decision as armor does not affect (much) how you play. If you want to play as an Elementalist and make a N/E to do so, you are stuck with no options for your secondary, have no runes to boost the damage/duration/etc. of the skills, and do not gain access to the Primary Attribute (Energy Storage) which is used for many skills/builds.
Soul Reaping is a powerful, passive energy management tool, but many of the useful spells from Elementalist are not only high in energy (15 and 25), but also cause Exhaustion. Having a high energy pool is useful for when using the exhaustion causing skills and not running out, and also for using the high energy cost skills more frequently. Soul Reaping has a restriction on how quick you get that energy back, it isn't prefect.
Very few builds exist that use a secondary class as the focus. Most of those are PvP based ideas, and even there it is niche, not always useful. Think of the R/N using touch skills. For general use, they just aren't as good an option. You can succeed, definitely, but if you want to run at 100% make an Ele, otherwise you will be running at a much lower rate of efficiency.
Soul Reaping is a powerful, passive energy management tool, but many of the useful spells from Elementalist are not only high in energy (15 and 25), but also cause Exhaustion. Having a high energy pool is useful for when using the exhaustion causing skills and not running out, and also for using the high energy cost skills more frequently. Soul Reaping has a restriction on how quick you get that energy back, it isn't prefect.
Very few builds exist that use a secondary class as the focus. Most of those are PvP based ideas, and even there it is niche, not always useful. Think of the R/N using touch skills. For general use, they just aren't as good an option. You can succeed, definitely, but if you want to run at 100% make an Ele, otherwise you will be running at a much lower rate of efficiency.
rick1027
you could do what you want and beat every area even without using skills as long as you got a good hero setup. id say go ahead you only gimp yourself a little but you can work around that and actually have a character with versatilty ive seen other go n/mo and used there necro for monking and do just as decent a job as a mo/x. it might be ideal for some but can be done and if your good youll make up for those who arent just expect a lot of critism if you join pugs most pugs dont care for differnt un pviwiki builds and thats what it sounds like your running but if you got a good guild who requirements arent as stringient youll be ok
kazjun
Don't know why people say you can't be a good N/E. If you've got a MM along, and are in a party that's got good killing speed you'll be fine. Just take your attunement, GoLE and SoLS and go 12+1+1 SR and 12 of whatever element. Put like 3 into curses for enfeebling blood and weaken armour. SF works best for pve. Works well with H/H since you can choose the party.
Nightfall is best since it comes with Cynn who's gone SF. Go a fire SF, take a hero MM (run him with 16 death, 10 SR and 9 fire and have him run SF with animate minions), and bring two other SF eles. Take Cynn, mhenlo, khim and sogolon/herta. You'll have at least 2 wards vs melee on the two other eles, weakness and 5 copies of SF. As long as they burn, you'll clear everything and never have to stop once. Course this is for NM. For HM ele's aren't too flash anyway, so just switch to curses. Though you could drop one fire ele for a ToF para if you really want to do use eles in HM.
Nightfall is best since it comes with Cynn who's gone SF. Go a fire SF, take a hero MM (run him with 16 death, 10 SR and 9 fire and have him run SF with animate minions), and bring two other SF eles. Take Cynn, mhenlo, khim and sogolon/herta. You'll have at least 2 wards vs melee on the two other eles, weakness and 5 copies of SF. As long as they burn, you'll clear everything and never have to stop once. Course this is for NM. For HM ele's aren't too flash anyway, so just switch to curses. Though you could drop one fire ele for a ToF para if you really want to do use eles in HM.
Arzock
Thankyou last commenters! Some useful posts, although I think I will make an Ele, and just see how it goes.
pinkeyflower
Being an ele primary means you function better at being an ele.