Story of a Scammer

ashes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Beertown ;P

RoP

E/Mo

About a month ago, i was selling several stacks of HoneyCombs ingame.
I was selling stacks for 60k each, and things were going well - but the last couple of stacks were kinda hard to get rid off so i announced;
"WTS 2 Stacks of HoneyCombs 60k/ea or 100k/both" - and this is what happend.


I was tired, and didnt pay attention to the trade (after almost 7k hours in GW ^_^)
I told him to give me the additional 90k, or i would report him - no reply.


I wrote to Anet, screened it - and send him the link in a template, telling him to check it out - hoping it would make him pay me back - still no reply.


Luckily Anet replied pretty fast, so i had something to "negotiate" with - and then, all of a sudden he replied.


Thrill of victory, i really didnt see this one coming - he was actually going to pay me back!


He paid me back, with a little bonus - i was happy but also kinda sorry for the poor fellow. Apparently someone pulled the same scam on him, and now all he ended up with was 2 stacks of HoneyCombs and 0k in storage.


I wrote to Anet that we sort things out ingame, and that i would drop all charges - and within 5min i got this reply:

"Thanks for the update on your issue. I appreciate you getting back to us and have noted your resolution." - GM CherryViper


All of this took place within an hour or so - and in the end, i won.


//Ash

Mikkelet

Mikkelet

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

Rt/

Cool, glad it worked out for you :P

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

Its a rollercoaster ride of deceit, sorrow, anger and redemption. I love it.

Fusylum

Fusylum

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Michigan

Reign of Judgement [RoJ]

I do not wanna ruin your day but the people who get scammed are the idiots

Bill Clinton

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2009

Nice story.

Under an hour? Thats really cool.

Justice!!

William C Wallace

William C Wallace

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2010

Don't Fear The Creeper [BuD]

W/E

This should be made into a movie. "Sticking it to the scammer - The Epic Vol. 1"

haha

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by distilledwill View Post
Its a rollercoaster ride of deceit, sorrow, anger and redemption. I love it.
lol, ditto lololol

To Chicken To Die

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

Under 1 hour? (no typo like week?) cus then I am impressed.

Anyway if he is scammed then why didn't he made a ticket no reason to feel sorry if he does not take action and let his scammer continue.

Coverticus

Coverticus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Zodiac Elites [TZE]

Mo/

Not bad turnaround lol - you might want to edit your name out of the submission ticket though

ashes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Beertown ;P

RoP

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coverticus View Post
you might want to edit your name out of the submission ticket though
Thats ok, i write my ign in almost every ventari-bid anyway

Glad you guys like it

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

you got pretty lucky there, the next time you make such a stupid and careless oopsie the person who got the best of you might not be so gullible and paranoid.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

I'm getting all warm and fuzzy inside.

Brb, catching me some butterflies.

maxxfury

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

[DVDF] Gp

Me/A

No really a scam, just you messed up accepting the wrong offer..

But im shocked he folded like that! Cos no way would anet have done anything to him..as you didnt pay attention to what was offered

Grats tho i guess :P you got lucky..

Uriel_Wolfblood

Uriel_Wolfblood

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2009

The House of Wolfblood

R/

you had me at honeycombs

ightgg

ightgg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Rt/

So if i tell anet i was scammed and then they repaid me they will respond faster.... next time i email them about beating a dead horse ill include in the title FIRST EVER SCAM RESOLUTION MUST SEE! They will jump at the thought of something actually happening in game.

prey monkie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2009

[OhNo] Mallyx and Friends

Mo/

wow u . seriously. Scamming is not something bad. its just a good player beating a bad player. if u dont watch what u trade. u click on accept. so its just as good ur fault. if u can't handle that. go play runescape. and dont trash forums with ur stupid story.
my 2 cents.

ashes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Beertown ;P

RoP

E/Mo

Sorry for playing GW while being tired? i guess ^_^

If you dont like it, dont read it

The Scorpion Knight

The Scorpion Knight

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

Good stuff, glad everything worked out.

NerfHerder

NerfHerder

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2010

Its incredible how many people will stick up for the scammers. There is a better way to make gold than take advantage of others. Besides its easy to get caught. I got scammed once a couple years ago. The item had the same look as what I was trading, but it wasnt the same thing. I took a screen shot of what I offered in search chat and the actual trade. I sent it in to Anet and I didnt see that guys screen name on for at least three days. I didnt like getting that guy suspended, but it just goes to show Anet does respond to this kind of thing. I admit I wasnt paying attention, and the trade was for something like 15k. So the money wasnt the issue it was the principle.

Jugalo Dano

Jugalo Dano

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

N/Me

It's nice everything worked out for you in the end, but this thread really has no point.

ashes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Beertown ;P

RoP

E/Mo

I simply wanted to share a good story (imo atleast)

To Chicken To Die

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NerfHerder View Post
Its incredible how many people will stick up for the scammers. There is a better way to make gold than take advantage of others. Besides its easy to get caught. I got scammed once a couple years ago. The item had the same look as what I was trading, but it wasnt the same thing. I took a screen shot of what I offered in search chat and the actual trade. I sent it in to Anet and I didnt see that guys screen name on for at least three days. I didnt like getting that guy suspended, but it just goes to show Anet does respond to this kind of thing. I admit I wasnt paying attention, and the trade was for something like 15k. So the money wasnt the issue it was the principle.
Indeed I have been scamed such as the collect for cons and then leave during loading screens. And every time Anet responded by suspending the scammers account. I am not sure but think it was around 72 hours of suspension. This is something in my experience Anet resolves fast and in a good way. (not 1 hour tho)

Rugar

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2009

It wasn't a scam. It was a mistake, by OP.

To Chicken To Die

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugar View Post
It wasn't a scam. It was a mistake, by OP.
Yes it is exploiting a mistake on ones behalve with that is so obvious and also noted later on without refunding is.

Lord Dagon

Lord Dagon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2009

Inside the Oblivion Gate

The Imperial Guards of Istan[TIGE]

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jugalo Dano View Post
It's nice everything worked out for you in the end, but this thread really has no point.
/agreed

but its still interesting that anet answered you w/in an hr o.0. i sent them a ticket about one of my accounts being falsely banned oh about..*checks watch* 2yrs ago. Still ahvent gotten an answer yet.

Aldric

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

[IG]

R/

should have left the complaint in even after you got your cash back

AmbientMelody

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2009

Poland

N/A

All's well that ends well

kupp

kupp

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Shiverpeaks

[KISS]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ashes View Post
- i was happy but also kinda sorry for the poor fellow. Apparently someone pulled the same scam on him, and now all he ended up with was 2 stacks of HoneyCombs and 0k in storage.
Boo-hoo. Just because I once got robbed doesn't make it right for me to go steal everyone else. Poor guy why? He of all people should know how beeing scammed feels, and it's his fault he got scammed. If that was me, I would have gladly kissed the 90k goodbye, rub the report in his face and followed through with it - or take the cash and do it anyway.

And for all you know, he could have had a storage tab full of ecto stacks, all you have is his word in wich he already showed you should not trust it. The only thing that got him to move is ass and give you your money was the threat of account ban.

carnage-runner

carnage-runner

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada, B.C. Vancouver. aka.. amazing.

[Sith]

W/Me

Ok... Scamming does not really exist anymore with all the fixes done to trade window years back. The only thing left is carelessness. The old, W/A "drop it to check it's real" trick... "10k=100k/100g=100k" yea. That's carelessness. Not to say it's great that it worked out for you in the end, but it's still pretty silly. Anet doesn't reemburse money in game anyways. If you lose all your things, tough luck.

Tough love's a bitch but you learn quick.

ightgg

ightgg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die View Post
Yes it is exploiting a mistake on ones behalve with that is so obvious and also noted later on without refunding is.
So are we 9? Sorry to say i agree with Prey. If you put in too much or too little that is your offer that YOU are responsible. A simple "i was tired, it was an accident" doesnt cut it. If you offer me 70k for 1 con set ill sell it to you for that. Who am i to decide if that wasnt what its worth to you. Im not here to listen to your "oops it was an accident". You are responsible for your offer and must hit SUBMIT and accept. You already have your warning right there. Id be glad to show any scrub that being ignorant is no excuse.

Nerel

Nerel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

Australia, what you want my home address?

[CAT]

Mo/

I'd have to disagree with Prey, scamming isn't a case of beating a bad player, it's just a lazy scumbags way of trying to get ahead at the expense of others, it certainly doesn't make you a 'good player', quite the opposite really...

But then, this wasn't a 'scam', there was no deceit, no clever trickery involved... someone failed to check the trade window and got taken advantage of. Not a scam.

Seriously, if you endorse scamming, you're a worthless RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing scum bag, worse even than the botters.

ashes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Beertown ;P

RoP

E/Mo

Please remember that i do not QQ about being scammed, as it was 100% my fault - cus i didnt check his offer (but on the otherhand he offered 10k on purpose)

So if you dont like, just beat it

Miss Puddles

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

Sorry but if he confessed to scamming you because he himself just got scammed and was trying to recoup his losses, how on earth does that make you feel sorry for him?

Marcopolocs

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2010

Mo/

what is the name of the e-mail you sent ??the Anet e-mail..?pls help

daraaksii

daraaksii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Everything went better than expected ^^

Chasing Squirrels

Chasing Squirrels

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

can't believe anet actually helped you with this when it was your own fault.

Levi Garett

Levi Garett

Old School Nub

Join Date: Jun 2005

ABQ, NM

Guildless

Mo/Me

You didn't get scammed. You clicked Accept and didn't pay attention to the trade window. ANET should of done nothing. The guy that "scammed" you should have told you to pound sand. If ANET banned this guy because you did not pay attention they are the idiots.

I can't believe you would even try to dispute this. Your mistake. You should have ate the loss and moved on. Take it like a man next time.

Oh yeah you left your char name on the screenshot.

Jenn

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Levi Garett View Post
You didn't get scammed. You clicked Accept and didn't pay attention to the trade window. ANET should of done nothing. The guy that "scammed" you should have told you to pound sand. If ANET banned this guy because you did not pay attention they are the idiots.
Yeah, god forbid that we can expect or hope people are decent to their peers or that people won't make mistakes. Though, I guess if we set our standards low enough, we'll never be disappointed in people. To be honest, I'm glad to hear that ashes got his money back. He knows he messed up, and apparently so did the person who tried to rip him off. I think it's a nice story .

The way I see it, it's not okay to be an asshole at the expense of someone else.

*sings Kumbaya*

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Levi Garett View Post
You didn't get scammed. You clicked Accept and didn't pay attention to the trade window. ANET should of done nothing. The guy that "scammed" you should have told you to pound sand. If ANET banned this guy because you did not pay attention they are the idiots.

I can't believe you would even try to dispute this. Your mistake. You should have ate the loss and moved on. Take it like a man next time.

Oh yeah you left your char name on the screenshot.
There was an agreement to the amount to be paid. The other party failed to follow through. Just because the second guy accidentally/hurriedly clicked accept doesn't mean that he renegotiated the value.

If I sold a tire to you in the real world for $20, and you gave me a $10. When I confront you about your error and you say "Sorry, you accepted the $10." I would punch you in the damn face and take the other $10 out of your hide. Since we can't do that in game, consider a ban via Anet being the punch in the face that you deserve.

Lothlorian Sassun

Lothlorian Sassun

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Dragonestos

N/

Great news that the scammer payed up and you got your money back.

You are very lucky though. ANET would have done nothing for you otherwise. They would have said that it was your fault for not looking at the trade accurately and you were the one who accepted the trade.

I used to see Scam bots in The Temple of Ages trying to buy ecto for 7K but putting 7g in the trade window. The Same bot was there for well over a week after i reported him. So my faith in ANET support for trade scams is non existent.