are assassins still 100% useless in PvE?

To my knowledge ninjas were masters at blocking blows, DBZ style. Makes more sense for a ninja to tank than a slow ass warrior in heavy armor. Ironically, the warrior is more suited for just charging in and dealing damage from a lore perspective, while ninjas are usually depicted as masters at hand to hand combat. Heck, in real life, most of the things you learn in Ninjutsu are how to counter blows. But a warrior? All they know is how to slice a guy's head off with a big sword.

Furthermore, in fantasy depictions, ninjas are usually shown as being able to multiply themselves and create illusions for enemies to miss. So I don't see why shadowform was farfetched from a lore perspective. And for PvE, it's still a pretty damn good skill! To be a bit more accurate, in ninjitsu (at least koga ninjas) they believe no moves should be wasted, so they have no blocks.. they use offense in a defensive manner, so they hit an incoming attackers hand instead of blocking.

And sins shouldn't really be that associated with ninjas / ninjitsu, they are loosely based on ninjas if you will. In general ninjas were spys with combat experience, not warriors that knew how to spy...

...and you mean in naruto they are depicted as being able to create copies of them self, its more accurate to say in contemporary j-fantasy they create a dummy of them self so the enemy can attack it as they get away / deliver a fierce blow then escape. Which is more akin to the skill "Smoke Powder Defense", the only ninja in guild wars in my opinion is yuri the hand he is based on real deal contemporary j-fantasy ninjas including masks to scare / psyche out the opponent before they do anything...


Here is yuri from the bonus mission pack


I was very disappointed that sins were not ninjas and did not have more "ninja-esque" armor... but still my main is a sin, I've used her from everything from casting, pbaoe spamming, healing if need, scything, hammering, spearing, and death blossoming, I would say that sins are the most versatile class in the game, not the best in one area, but jacks of trades if you will.

Assassins are incredibly powerful damage dealers. People who disagree are idiots. However some pugs will not pick up an assassin or if they pick, the healer ignore him. I saw this on the wanted quests a lot. I think 85% of the players have a pre conceived idea that assassins are only good for farming purposes and despite of my argumentation they're to obtuse to see whats in front of them. Now I do all my wanted quests h/h....

However some pugs will not pick up an assassin or if they pick, the healer ignore him.... ...I think 85% of the players have a pre conceived idea that assassins are only good for farming purposes and despite of my argumentation they're to obtuse to see whats in front of them. Then these PuG's are stupid and you shouldn't want to be playing with them anyway.

Assassins @ PVE are AWESOME... Fixed your sentence.

assassins 100% useless in pve? jeez, do people STILL believe this?

i'd thought people would've smartened up by now. it's sad to see that after almost a year of absence, nothing changes. I remember the pre-release Factions, and the Factions release. Every one had an Assassin, no one would group with them. Luckily at the time, I was the leader of a Guild of actual gaming friends from other games. Our core group was six people, and we basically all rolled a new character to go through Factions with, rather than transferring our other characters immediately. I was the Assassin of the group, and we also had a Ritualist, Warrior, Necro, Mesmer, and Monk. We facerolled that campaign pretty fast.

Troll or just a tard, any class in gw is just as useless as the player playing it. So get good or get over it, its just a game. I compeltely agree with this, any Guild Wars profession can be lethal when armed in the right player. It just so happens Assassins are esspecially lethal, at least imo.

Assassin
invincible
death
machine. sums it up quite nicely

Which would be the best choice in PvE?

Critical agility + flashing blades
Critical agility + I am unstoppable
Way of the assassin + critical defenses Way of the assassin + critical agility + I am unstoppable / "Save Yourselves!"