Hello Folks!
I have recently downloaded and setup a free trial account. Unfortunately it seems that NCSOFT in their ultimate wisdom has limited major game functions for free accounts. Some of these IMHO are necessary to evaluate the game most of all being able to communicate with other players. Now I do understand their reasoning for not allowing communication after playing other mmorpgs.
Well to get to my question. Is it worth the investment? I have played a little with the GW free trial and it seems interesting enough. It has been a little bit of a learning curve not being able to seek knowledge of other players. Is there a good size player base, or is it a dying game? Whats the player base like are they friendly and helpful or just @$$hats? Do players actually talk in group, guild chat, or does everyone use VoIP programs? See the things I want to learn about the game can't be done with a 10 hour trial.
It seems there are numerous versions of the game as with any game that has been out there for awhile. I have looked at the different versions available and think Trilogy is the best buy.
Can anyone give me some suggestions or their opinions?
Thank You in advance for your help!
Orbdweller
Is GW worth the investment?
Orbdweller
vamp08
The answer to your question is this: If you would have known Microsoft would be as successful as it is today at the start of the company, would you have invented heavily into it?
Quaker
There are still a lot of people playing, but you don't find as many in the early stages any more. You also don't find people looking to group up in early areas very often. So, it tends to be a 1 person plus henchmen if you don't belong to a guild.
As far as people talking goes, you'll find a lot of chatter going on in places where there are lots of players. As with any MMO, you will find both friendly, helpful people and a'hats - and everything in between.
Guild (and Alliance) chat can only be seen by the people in that guild (or Alliance) and, since there is no voice chat built into GW, some guilds use Ventrilo or Teamspeak for voice chat. So, it's really up to the particular Guild, how much and what kind of chat goes on within them.
As far as worth it goes - I'd say yes. I've spent more money on games I played a lot less. I'd say that the worst that could happen is that you'd only get your money's worth.
P.s. In spite of the impression you might get from some posters below, I've been playing GW for 5+ years and I wouldn't say the game is "dead" yet. But I would say that GW is not the game it once was - whether that's good or bad is a matter of opinion.
As far as people talking goes, you'll find a lot of chatter going on in places where there are lots of players. As with any MMO, you will find both friendly, helpful people and a'hats - and everything in between.
Guild (and Alliance) chat can only be seen by the people in that guild (or Alliance) and, since there is no voice chat built into GW, some guilds use Ventrilo or Teamspeak for voice chat. So, it's really up to the particular Guild, how much and what kind of chat goes on within them.
As far as worth it goes - I'd say yes. I've spent more money on games I played a lot less. I'd say that the worst that could happen is that you'd only get your money's worth.
P.s. In spite of the impression you might get from some posters below, I've been playing GW for 5+ years and I wouldn't say the game is "dead" yet. But I would say that GW is not the game it once was - whether that's good or bad is a matter of opinion.
Bristlebane
Trial accounts wasn't that limited before, but after bots and players abused it too much, it was severely limited at the expense for new players to be able to evaluate the game properly. Personally I rather see theese limits in place than the tons of gold selling spambots that plagued all major cities.
Some people will argue it's a dieing game as it has been around for 5 years and many people have gotten bored with it. But there has also been an influx of a large number of new players so I'm sure you will find players you can join. There's no doubt that for the money you pay, you will get YEARS of entertainment so it's well worth the money. I would recommend you start with at least Prophecies and Eye of the North. You can complement with the other campaigns later when you feel the need for it (to gain access to more zones, heroes, and skills).
Compared to some other games I've seen, Guild Wars players are generally nice people. Sure there are always idiots, a**hats and scammers, but there's also a large number of friendly people out there. Hopefully you find a good guild with friendly people who you can play through the game with.
Some people will argue it's a dieing game as it has been around for 5 years and many people have gotten bored with it. But there has also been an influx of a large number of new players so I'm sure you will find players you can join. There's no doubt that for the money you pay, you will get YEARS of entertainment so it's well worth the money. I would recommend you start with at least Prophecies and Eye of the North. You can complement with the other campaigns later when you feel the need for it (to gain access to more zones, heroes, and skills).
Compared to some other games I've seen, Guild Wars players are generally nice people. Sure there are always idiots, a**hats and scammers, but there's also a large number of friendly people out there. Hopefully you find a good guild with friendly people who you can play through the game with.
Slasher of Darkness
Short Answer: Yes.
Long answer: I've spent my money on the game, and had a lot of fun in it, it's a good game even when you don't have that much time like I do lately, but you can still get stuff done and experience most of the things. Try to find a guild early on (PM me if you'd like to join my guild and alliance, we happily accept new players as well) cause it gets much easier and better with a guild. As about the "game dying", I wouldn't say so, many people might tell you this, but I find the game is still going strong, sure you don't see that many people in the low level areas, but it gets more crowded later, and a lot of people are in American districts. IMO you can always find chat in the bigger towns and most of them I find to be friendly, maybe I'm just lucky to find such people, but I don't think so.
So yeah, I'd do it if I were you, Guild Wars was and still is a great game, IMO.
Long answer: I've spent my money on the game, and had a lot of fun in it, it's a good game even when you don't have that much time like I do lately, but you can still get stuff done and experience most of the things. Try to find a guild early on (PM me if you'd like to join my guild and alliance, we happily accept new players as well) cause it gets much easier and better with a guild. As about the "game dying", I wouldn't say so, many people might tell you this, but I find the game is still going strong, sure you don't see that many people in the low level areas, but it gets more crowded later, and a lot of people are in American districts. IMO you can always find chat in the bigger towns and most of them I find to be friendly, maybe I'm just lucky to find such people, but I don't think so.
So yeah, I'd do it if I were you, Guild Wars was and still is a great game, IMO.
Zebideedee
No doubt the people that have played from day 1 will tell you the game is dead, because after 5 years it's not as busy as it was back in the day. Best bet is if you're gonna buy it, try and find a decent guild/alliance, that way you have people to chat to (in guild/ally chat or on vent cos most guilds/alliances have vent or teamspeak etc.) and can ask for help or advice.
Players are probably 75-25% in favour of helpfulness, you'll always get some idiots calling you a "NOOB" always with caps lock on for some reason
If you do get it, best to get all campaigns/expansions, so you have access to heroes & all skills etc. etc.
Hope that helps a little
Players are probably 75-25% in favour of helpfulness, you'll always get some idiots calling you a "NOOB" always with caps lock on for some reason
If you do get it, best to get all campaigns/expansions, so you have access to heroes & all skills etc. etc.
Hope that helps a little
Orbdweller
Thank you Quaker and Bristlebane!
Yeah as I said i do understand the limits that are in place... I figured it was gold/PL spammers that forced that. Since that goes on in other games and is very annoying.
BTW what does eye of the north offer to complement the prophecies?
Yeah as I said i do understand the limits that are in place... I figured it was gold/PL spammers that forced that. Since that goes on in other games and is very annoying.
BTW what does eye of the north offer to complement the prophecies?
kosh
in short: YES.
how many games you can tell me give you hmm over 6.7 k hours for the past 5 years?
you pay for a single player rpg today about 50$ and those give you what? ME2 is about 40 hours top, DoA is 80-100 hours (with all the dlc but awaking)
so imo yes.
how many games you can tell me give you hmm over 6.7 k hours for the past 5 years?
you pay for a single player rpg today about 50$ and those give you what? ME2 is about 40 hours top, DoA is 80-100 hours (with all the dlc but awaking)
so imo yes.
Orbdweller
WoW two more reply's while I was typing the first tnx. I never got this kind of response on IGN boards.
Thank you Zebideedee it does help.. yeah no matter what game you play your going to get 12 yos or 40 yos acting 12. :}
Slasher of Darkness thank you for the invite I may take you up on that if I do decide to buy the game.
The only thing I dont understand is when I started playing i thought there was two different types of factions. Like Good and Evil or Loyalist and rebel but when i got started I didnt have a choice.
Thank you Zebideedee it does help.. yeah no matter what game you play your going to get 12 yos or 40 yos acting 12. :}
Slasher of Darkness thank you for the invite I may take you up on that if I do decide to buy the game.
The only thing I dont understand is when I started playing i thought there was two different types of factions. Like Good and Evil or Loyalist and rebel but when i got started I didnt have a choice.
Zebideedee
There are 2 Factions in the campaign with the same name, Luxon (beachcombing types with a fondness for crabs) or Kurzick (treehuggers who need a tan lol), you'll see what I mean in game. If you join a guild it'll be one or the other, then you can do some PvP with the oppossite side.
Orbdweller
Can you have both types on one account or do you have to choose before you can play?
Zebideedee
You can change from Luxon to kurzick whenever you want. Just means leaving your guild to go to one of the opposite Faction. Outside of a guild you're neither Lux or Kurz.
Carboplatin
yes it is. considering that you can get trilogy packs for ~$30 and ~$20 for eotn, it'll last you months if you are playing for the first time.
Orbdweller
AHHHHH okay I get it.
So there is no advantage to one or the other just a choice of allegiance?
So there is no advantage to one or the other just a choice of allegiance?
Orbdweller
Carboplatin $30 to Trilogy? I haven't seen it that cheep but I ll look around tnx!
Zebideedee
Pretty much, later on if you go for the Lux or Kurz titles it'll matter more but early on just go for the most fun bunch you find
Spiritz
Another reason for the limits i think was also due to Gold sellers ( evil scum who sell ig gold for real cash ) who abused free trial accounts and used for trade
wilebill
Kurzick and Luxon? Neither are evil. Both are Canthan. But they are at war.
You are one or the other because Luxon or Kurzick title track points apply to all your characters on that account and it doesn't matter which character you are playing. When you are high enough on the title track you can buy special skills usable only in PvE. So you want to stay one way or the other.
Kurzick can earn points fastest, usually, though a mixture of PvE and PvP. Which you are determines your side in various PvP events. In PvE, you can adventure on both sides. But the merchants and NPCs of the opposing side will not deal with you. Their henchmen will go out with you though. This is no problem since you just teleport to where you are loved to sell stuff and do crafts and such.
If you want to do the PvE quests for the other side, you can temporarily switch sides by building up "friend" points on the other sides title track. it is an ideal system.
Kurzick are human but sort of elvish. They live in a series of forest maps. The Luxons live on and around The Jade Sea.
You are one or the other because Luxon or Kurzick title track points apply to all your characters on that account and it doesn't matter which character you are playing. When you are high enough on the title track you can buy special skills usable only in PvE. So you want to stay one way or the other.
Kurzick can earn points fastest, usually, though a mixture of PvE and PvP. Which you are determines your side in various PvP events. In PvE, you can adventure on both sides. But the merchants and NPCs of the opposing side will not deal with you. Their henchmen will go out with you though. This is no problem since you just teleport to where you are loved to sell stuff and do crafts and such.
If you want to do the PvE quests for the other side, you can temporarily switch sides by building up "friend" points on the other sides title track. it is an ideal system.
Kurzick are human but sort of elvish. They live in a series of forest maps. The Luxons live on and around The Jade Sea.
Del
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Kurzick and Luxon? Neither are evil. Both are Canthan. But they are at war.
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Bristlebane
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BTW what does eye of the north offer to complement the prophecies?
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EotN also gives you access to some rather powerful PvE skills that are not tied to attributes or professions. Instead of attributes, theese skills scale with titles you can work on. But even without any grind at all, many of the skills are still very strong. I'll give a few examples:
Asuran Scan. An insta-cast hex that cause your attacks to do 45..69% more damage. Very good skill, cheap and spammable.
Pain Inverter. Another hex causing foes to take heavy damage everytime they deal damage. Great against boss monsters.
There's plenty more skills like that.
Orbdweller
Thank You all for all the Great info! Looks like its time to decide where to buy from now!
Oh yeah one more thing, does anyone know if you can move your trial char into a new real account? hate to lose the work put into it but I guess it wouldn't matter since it was only a few hours.
Oh yeah one more thing, does anyone know if you can move your trial char into a new real account? hate to lose the work put into it but I guess it wouldn't matter since it was only a few hours.
Ninja Ninja
If you like pvp dominated by bots then enjoy the purchase.
You can add game access keys to your existing trial account after logging in.
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Oh yeah one more thing, does anyone know if you can move your trial char into a new real account? hate to lose the work put into it but I guess it wouldn't matter since it was only a few hours.
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Aljasha
Orbdweller, if you are interested in the franchise and in the sequel GW2 and you like the trial so far, then go for it. If you want to fill the Hall of Monuments for benefits in GW2, probably mostly cosmetic stuff, then you should go for the Kind Of A Big Deal title right from the start. There are some nice guides to help you achieve the title without doing too much grind and seeing some missions and areas only twice.
About bots: most of them are used in high level pvp and if you are a pver and casual pvper you won't see much of them until GW2 comes out.
Regardless, I would recommend searching for a guild as soon as possible. Try to browse these forums too, because sometimes it may take a lot of time to find one and GW without a guild is boring.
About bots: most of them are used in high level pvp and if you are a pver and casual pvper you won't see much of them until GW2 comes out.
Regardless, I would recommend searching for a guild as soon as possible. Try to browse these forums too, because sometimes it may take a lot of time to find one and GW without a guild is boring.
Orbdweller
Thank you for your input Aljasha!
Rathmaker
I just recently started to play Guild Wars, and I am having a blast! I picked up a Complete Collection from my local Wal-Mart for $40.00 (in Indiana). It has all 3 of the campaigns as well as Eye of the North. I have gotten almost as much entertainment out of that $40 as I would from a "normal" RPG, and I have not even scratched the surface.
Bob Slydell
Is the game worth it? - Yes
Are there asshats in the game? - Yes, there are times when you will expierence some elitism (aka almost every inch of PvP)
But the game IS worth the investment. You can find other people in some areas and you can join good guilds, the game is also soloable (in terms of no human players) by using henchmen and heroes.
Are there asshats in the game? - Yes, there are times when you will expierence some elitism (aka almost every inch of PvP)
But the game IS worth the investment. You can find other people in some areas and you can join good guilds, the game is also soloable (in terms of no human players) by using henchmen and heroes.
Mr. G
Most of your questions have been answered but I thought I'd throw in a few of my own opinions.
If possible get the complete thing, like rath said you can pick up all 3 games and the expansion for less than the price of a new release.
On the subject of GW:EN - What it really offers is a good mid to endgame. Once you get tinto the grove of GW it's easy to steamroll some things (Not saying that the game is by any means easy). GW:EN cranks the difficulty up a good chunk on the previous advantures. It's doesn't make it harder just.. more challenging... That doesn't really make sense does it?
On the subject of the community - Yeah you'll meet idiots and elitists. Mainly the former in PvE and the latter in PvP.
The key is to put yourself into the community, joining guru is a great start - joining a good guild is even better. Because GW is such a teambased game people rarely play outside their guilds/friends. Not saying that these people will shun you - not in the least, but you will have to make and effort to join them. they won't likely be looking for new people.
The community is smaller than it once was sure, but it's much tighter and far from dying. Hell just look how active this site is!
Anyway I've rambled enough - Pretty much if you do the game (and I really hope you do) feel free to hit me up if you need somebody to play with, or just need somebody to direct your questions towards:
IGN: Sant Leo
If possible get the complete thing, like rath said you can pick up all 3 games and the expansion for less than the price of a new release.
On the subject of GW:EN - What it really offers is a good mid to endgame. Once you get tinto the grove of GW it's easy to steamroll some things (Not saying that the game is by any means easy). GW:EN cranks the difficulty up a good chunk on the previous advantures. It's doesn't make it harder just.. more challenging... That doesn't really make sense does it?
On the subject of the community - Yeah you'll meet idiots and elitists. Mainly the former in PvE and the latter in PvP.
The key is to put yourself into the community, joining guru is a great start - joining a good guild is even better. Because GW is such a teambased game people rarely play outside their guilds/friends. Not saying that these people will shun you - not in the least, but you will have to make and effort to join them. they won't likely be looking for new people.
The community is smaller than it once was sure, but it's much tighter and far from dying. Hell just look how active this site is!
Anyway I've rambled enough - Pretty much if you do the game (and I really hope you do) feel free to hit me up if you need somebody to play with, or just need somebody to direct your questions towards:
IGN: Sant Leo
Orbdweller
Thanks for the input Bob and Mr G. I ll check my local wal mart and I may just hit you up on your offer Mr G.
Peace Orb
Peace Orb
Mr. G
Np mate. While I think about it I'm shocked and appalled that nobody has linked wiki yet 
standards are slipping:
For all your GW needs - http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page
standards are slipping:For all your GW needs - http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page
Orbdweller
Yeah I found that when I was running a quest and hit F10 there were links to the quests I had. I thought that was awesome. Not like other games that you have to hunt for the knowledge data bases.
Thanks for the link though was a great thought :}
Thanks for the link though was a great thought :}
fireflyry
Yes.
The investment is minimal.A once off payment with no subscription to dump when you walk away.No-brainer really.
Seems to be a fair few newer players around atm so I'd get a copy asap while you can find groups or a guild of newer players on the same skill level as you who want to attain the same goals, especially considering normal mode play.
In 6 months I'd imagine it will be straight back to "LFP HM VQ" spam and title grind again.
The investment is minimal.A once off payment with no subscription to dump when you walk away.No-brainer really.
Seems to be a fair few newer players around atm so I'd get a copy asap while you can find groups or a guild of newer players on the same skill level as you who want to attain the same goals, especially considering normal mode play.
In 6 months I'd imagine it will be straight back to "LFP HM VQ" spam and title grind again.
Eragon Zarroc
definitely worth it ;-) 3 games for 40$ and hundreds of hours of play time and the chance to interact with thousands of people
Quaker
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- dungeons - mostly different in that they have a reward chest at the end as opposed to just boss drops.
- Heroes - customizable henchmen (also available in Nightfall)
- Greens - special max weapons - there are a few greens in Prophecies, but they were added later. (and there's more now because of the War in Kryta thing)
Btw, if you haven't bought GW yet, Your most cost effective way to go would be the Trilogy + Eotn
Move Down
No its all a waste of money and time.
I got banned for botting while i didnt do anything.
But the GM's of Ncsoft simply do nothing.
For me they just a bunch of thieves took my money and time and banned me.
This only prove the cannot detect bots and just banning a bit here and there
I got banned for botting while i didnt do anything.
But the GM's of Ncsoft simply do nothing.
For me they just a bunch of thieves took my money and time and banned me.
This only prove the cannot detect bots and just banning a bit here and there
Orbdweller
Yeah Quaker that's kinda what I figured after doing a little research. Although the complete collection would be best but I guess it was a Euro release. I did find it on ebay but I don't like buying software over the internet unless it is from the manufacture. So it looks like i am going this week to a local store and pick it up.
Thank you again everyone for all the input!
Thank you again everyone for all the input!
Solette
Just buy Complete Collection from Amazon last week i checked it cost halkf of price
And another ansver for your question : YES its totally worth investment , if you find not much players in your district you can always swap to another , i'm EU player but i play most on American districts as they always got good population and people looking for groups
And another ansver for your question : YES its totally worth investment , if you find not much players in your district you can always swap to another , i'm EU player but i play most on American districts as they always got good population and people looking for groups
aspi
late, as usual, but let me tell you that I have been playing games since Pong. GW easily makes the best investment in a game ever. I would have payed hundreds for this game. Most fun in a game since Quake MP for me.
majoho
Even if you just played as if it was just singleplayer RPG it would be worth the money, the amount of content you get is very good for the money.