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distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

24 May 2010 at 20:42 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

The thing that I think sucks is that the items thackery needs are a PITA to get alone. If you don't have them from an event or quest, GL trying to find them. Take the honeycombs. I used them after I got them because I never thought, hmm there's going to be a new event 2-3 years from now that'll require them. Apple ciders? My characters don't drink so I didn't keep any that I got.

Honeycombs are still easy to come by cus they drop from the Traveller's Gifts. The ciders a little more difficult and must be bought from a player - but a lot of people have stored them up so they aren't that expensive - just go to EotN and see!

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

24 May 2010 at 21:23 - 42

Thanks for the chart. I hadn't been keeping up with this for a while (was playing SC2 beta instead), so I was sorta lost when I came back. It definitely is confusing. Even die hard fans like myself can't keep up with what is going on when I came back from a 2-3 week break.

And if I can't figure it out... I guarantee you 90% of the game population isn't either. (example, I actually understood the finale of Lost, unlike most people on Lost forums right now who clearly are getting it wrong).

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

24 May 2010 at 21:29 - 43

Quote:

Originally Posted by distilledwill

Honeycombs are still easy to come by cus they drop from the Traveller's Gifts. The ciders a little more difficult and must be bought from a player - but a lot of people have stored them up so they aren't that expensive - just go to EotN and see!

you dont need the ciders---3 or 4 of any other the other ales will do to get the final dialogue. (I only had 2 ciders, but 4 of my characters used others ales and were able to get the final dialogue).

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

25 May 2010 at 06:45 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosyfiep

you dont need the ciders---3 or 4 of any other the other ales will do to get the final dialogue. (I only had 2 ciders, but 4 of my characters used others ales and were able to get the final dialogue).

Ciders are needed for better "gift" and shot for few consumables (you can get 3k worth of summoning stones for example). IIRC, you loose that possiblity if you just give him hunter ale and watch last dialogue.

Honeycombs are fairly easy to get btw; I have two and half stacks from infrequent Nicholas stuff.

Hell_Matt

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Heroic Order

E/

25 May 2010 at 10:04 - 45

Seems that completion of EOTN is enough to take your char supply farming (escorts). Think it requires all people to have completed EOTN and at at least 1 person have completed the annoying long dialogues for falcen to appear (dialogue aspect could also be account wise as I've done it on one character, with this account-wide dialogue effect required for all players). Just means you don't have to sit through all the dialogues

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

25 May 2010 at 10:19 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hell_Matt

Seems that completion of EOTN is enough to take your char supply farming (escorts). Think it requires all people to have completed EOTN and at at least 1 person have completed the annoying long dialogues for falcen to appear (dialogue aspect could also be account wise as I've done it on one character, with this account-wide dialogue effect required for all players). Just means you don't have to sit through all the dialogues

Having completed Prophecies is also enough. I take two of my mule accounts along on my Courier runs, and those characters have only finished Prophecies, nothing else. They haven't even been to Talmark or the HoM at all.

It's easy to check if a character can go along on Courier runs: check a WiK zone, if you see peacekeepers, you can do Falken.

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

28 May 2010 at 04:47 - 47

Well, I hadn't actually participated in any of this until now, and I'm really forced to agree with the OP. This needs to be much more organized. The average player who doesn't access wiki/guru and doesn't have guildies who do frequently probably won't be able to engage in any of this. Hell, I had to do a search on guru to find this thread just to figure out where Lion's Keep is and how to get in.

EDIT: With regard to GW2, if they plan on taking away little quest icons in place for this type of event thing, they're going about it the wrong way.

dancing gnome

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

House of Wandering Souls

R/Rt

28 May 2010 at 07:18 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ariovist Lynxkind

I actually think the lack of quest log is a good thing. besides the fact that there arent any real quests (save for the bounty and the scavenger hunt), the fact that you have to find these things makes it that tad bit more interesting, I feel.

but that is just my opinion. I dont always like things handed to me on a silver platter

I agree that exploration is a big part of the fun, but 99% of players had (and many still don't have) a clue on how to get all the dialogue. It's a nightmare and any fun gained by a small few isn't worth the confused masses.

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

28 May 2010 at 07:46 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by dancing gnome

I agree that exploration is a big part of the fun, but 99% of players had (and many still don't have) a clue on how to get all the dialogue. It's a nightmare and any fun gained by a small few isn't worth the confused masses.

Well, exploration is part of the fun. See new stuff and figure it yourself without consulting out of game source.

Problem is that is is not feasible and instead you get everything spoiled because you have to read threads/wiki.

Simply put, you have choice of being frustrated and confused or being throroughly spolied.

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

R/

28 May 2010 at 09:59 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosyfiep

you dont need the ciders---3 or 4 of any other the other ales will do to get the final dialogue. (I only had 2 ciders, but 4 of my characters used others ales and were able to get the final dialogue).

Bugger - I didn't know that. Got stacks of Hunter's Ale and never bothered trying them :/

Shadowhaze

Nothing, tra la la?

Join Date: Oct 2007

28 May 2010 at 10:27 - 51

Agree, something else besides a log in message should be there. I had informed guildies about it shortly after they quests were out and none of them heard about it before my mention of it. lol. Now everyone asks what they gotta do to get through the content/dialogs. *smashes keyboard*