GW Gear Stat Ranges by Req. (formerly "Low Req Weapons - Stats and Gallery!")

Red Fireball

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2010

HSBC

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List updated up to and including post 524, page 26, July 11th, 2016.

Do you wonder what the game's maximum and minimum possible damage, energy, armor, etc. for each requirement level are? We do, too! Let's keep notes!

req 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
Axe Max 6-12 6-12 6-14 6-16 7-19 6-22 7-21 6-24 7-20 6-25 7-18 6-27 7-21 6-28 7-21 6-28 6-28 6-28 6-28
Min 3-5 5-10 5-10 5-11 5-11 5-10 5-11 5-13 5-15 5-23 6-17 5-23 6-20 5-22 5-25 6-27
Bow Max 9-13 9-13 10-16 11-18 12-20 13-22 14-24 14-25 14-27 15-28 15-28 15-28 15-28 15-28
Min 4-6 8-12 8-11 8-12 8-12 8-11 8-12 9-14 10-16 11-18 12-21 12-23 13-25 14-27
Dagger Max 4-7 - 5-9 5-11 6-12 6-13 7-14 7-15 7-16 7-17 7-17 7-17 7-17 7-17
Min 1-3 - 4-7 4-7 4-8 4-7 4-8 4-8 4-9 5-11 6-13 6-14 6-15 7-16
Focus Max 6 6 7 8 9 10 11 11 12 12 12 12 12 12
Min 3 6 7 6 6 6 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 12
Hammer Max 11-15 11-16 12-18 13-21 15-24 16-28 17-30 18-32 18-34 19-35 19-35 19-35 19-35 19-35
Min 4-6 10-15 9-14 9-14 9-14 9-13 9-14 11-17 12-19 13-22 15-26 16-29 16-31 18-34
Scythe Max 8-17 8-17 9-18 8-19 9-24 10-28 10-32 10-34 9-37 10-35 9-40 10-27 9-41 10-29 9-41 10-34 9-41 9-41 9-41
Min 3-6 7-15 7-15 9-24 7-14 7-15 7-16 8-20 8-21 8-26 8-34 9-30 8-34 8-37 9-41
Shield Max 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 16 16 16 16 16
Min 4 8 8 8 8 8 9 10 11 12 13 15 16 16
Spear Max 8-12 8-12 10-15 10-15 11-19 12-21 13-23 13-24 14-26 14-27 14-27 14-27 14-27 14-27
Min 3-5 8-12 7-11 8-13 8-12 7-10 8-12 9-14 9-15 10-18 12-22 12-23 12-24 14-27
Staff (below) Max - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Min - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Sword Max 8-10 8-11 9-12 11-14 12-16 13-18 14-19 14-20 15-22 15-22 15-22 15-22 15-22 15-22
Min 3-4 7-9 7-9 7-9 7-9 7-9 7-9 8-11 9-13 10-14 11-16 12-18 14-20 15-22
Wand Max 7-11 7-11 8-13 9-14 9-16 10-18 10-19 11-20 11-21 11-22 11-22 11-22 11-22 11-22
Min 4-6 6-10 7-11 7-10 6-10 6-10 7-10 7-12 8-13 8-14 9-16 9-18 10-20 11-21

req 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
Staff white/blue Max HSR 12/6/7-10 12/6/7-11 13/6/8-13 14/7/9-14 14/8/9-16 15/8/10-17 16/9/10-19 16/9/11-20 17/10/11-21 18/10/11-21 17/10/11-22 18/10/11-22 18/10/11-21 -
Min HSR 10/3/4-6 12/6/6-10 12/6/7-10 12/6/7-10 12/6/6-10 12/6/6-10 12/6/7-10 13/7/7-12 14/7/8-13 14/8/8-14 15/8/9-16 16/9/10-18 17/10/10-20 -
Max Ene 12/6/7-10 12/6/7-11 13/6/8-13 14/7/9-14 14/8/9-16 15/8/10-17 16/9/10-19 16/9/11-20 17/10/11-21 18/10/11-21 17/10/11-22 18/10/11-22 17/10/11-22 -
Min Ene 10/3/4-6 12/6/6-10 12/6/7-10 12/6/7-10 12/6/6-10 12/6/6-10 12/6/7-10 13/6/8-12 14/7/8-13 14/8/8-14 15/8/9-16 16/9/10-18 17/10/10-20 -
Max DMG 12/5/7-11 12/6/7-11 13/6/8-13 14/7/9-14 14/8/9-16 15/8/10-17 16/9/10-19 16/9/11-20 17/10/11-21 17/10/11-22 17/10/11-22 18/10/11-22 17/10/11-22 -
Min DMG 10/3/4-6 12/6/6-10 12/6/7-10 12/6/7-10 12/6/6-10 12/6/6-10 12/6/7-10 13/7/7-12 14/7/8-13 14/8/8-14 15/8/9-16 16/9/10-18 17/10/10-20 -
Staff purple/gold Max HSR 14/6/7-11 14/6/7-10 15/7/8-13 15/7/9-14 17/8/9-15 17/8/10-17 18/10/10-18 19/9/10-19 20/10/11-21 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22
Min HSR 11/5/6-9 11/5/7-11 13/6/7-11 11/5/7-10 11/5/6-10 11/6/7-11 11/6/7-11 12/6/7-11 13/6/9-15 13/8/9-16 14/8/10-18 15/10/11-21 16/9/10-19 17/10/11-22
Max Ene 14/6/7-11 14/6/7-10 15/7/8-13 14/8/8-13 16/8/9-16 16/9/9-15 18/10/10-18 18/10/11-20 20/10/11-21 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22
Min Ene 12/5/5-8 12/5/7-10 13/6/7-11 11/5/7-10 11/5/6-10 12/5/8-12 13/5/7-11 12/6/7-11 13/6/9-15 13/7/9-16 16/8/9-16 16/8/10-19 16/9/10-19 17/10/11-22
Max DMG 14/6/7-11 14/6/7-10 15/7/8-13 15/7/9-14 16/8/9-16 16/8/10-18 18/9/10-19 18/10/11-20 20/10/11-21 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22
Min DMG 12/5/5-8 12/5/7-10 13/6/7-11 11/5/7-10 11/5/6-10 11/6/7-11 12/7/7-11 12/6/7-11 15/7/8-14 15/8/9-15 16/8/9-16 16/9/10-18 16/9/10-19 19/10/11-21


Claims for better stuff to have dropped:
7-12 q5 Dagger, 7-17 q8 Dagger, 9 q3 Focus, 10-16 q3 Spear


Still drops in gold: (listed them by req regardless of wep type, as this won´t affect it)
q13-q7 (those are not rare at all and everyone has seen them.)
q6/5
q4
q3


Pre-nerf low/high stats: (as there won´t be enough data to come even close to pre NF mins and maxs for certain req, I just listed them here in the following spoiler for anyone who is interested in old stuff. including q7 and q8 for any weapon type)




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  • This is a work in progress showing the max and min stats we've found so far for drops by requirement (or widely understood/known max values.) If you find a better version, post us a screenshot and tell us when and where it dropped!
  • Please be detailed when posting a new record here! We need ...
    • to know if the item dropped before or after the release of the Nightfall campaign. (The drop tables seem to have changed when NF was released. Stats from gear that dropped before NF are listed "Pre NF." It is unlikely that we'll complete the max stats by requirement for every Pre NF item. It is even less likely that we'll ever determine if there was a difference before and after NF for the min stats by req.)
    • a picture! Take a screenshot if at all possible and include it with your post. If you really have no way to take shots yourself, ask in your post - perhaps someone from this thread can meet you in game and take the picture from a trade window.
    • Not quite sure if your item sets a new record? Please do go ahead and post a picture with what you know about when and where it dropped. It's better to risk posting something that isn't a new record than risk missing out on something that is!
  • Even junky white, blue and purple drops may show us info on the actual minimums and maximums in the game's programming, so keep an eye on those and feel free to post shots.
  • Pay attention to both the min and max damage listed, as there may be multiple records for any given req. (For example, 6-25 and 7-24 for the same req. axe.) Staves are a special case, as they have three built-in stats: HSR, energy and damage. Even if your staff has only one stat that breaks a current record, please post it.
  • We will list the best and worst stat(s) we find for each req level. If you get an item drop with the same stats as are already pictured here you're certainly allowed to post a pic, but the list will usually include a link to only the first posted pic of the record-breaking (max or min) stats found so far. The Gallery in a single post may or may not ever be compiled.
For items which still drop today, we believe there is no difference between inscribable and inherent sources when it comes to the range of stats for any given requirement level. Based on the data we've seen there was apparent consensus in discussion before the Jan. 23, 2012 update, and we decided we had enough data to support that theory. From this update forward we no longer track inscribable and inherent source area loot separately.

Thanks to everyone who helps out!

If you notice mistakes or have suggestions for improvements, please feel free to let us know!

Looking for PC advice?
This thread really is simply a research project to try to determine the game code's limits for drops. If you think your low-req item might be valuable, there is a Price Check section of Ventari's as well as a forum search tool and auction system you can sometimes use to find PC history for similar items. In general, there is little use for non-max martial or spellcasting weapons outside of presearing, so such things will probably not be worth much, if anything, in the player-to-player market. There is/has been demand for some types of min-req/max-stat inscribable shields and foci. Without an inscription slot, there is almost no demand unless the particular shield or focus includes two, max or near-max and desirable inherent bonus mods.
Please note, this thread is far from "Luny's." This project was inspired by an April 2008 thread from Moloch Vein. This particular thread was started in June 2010 by Ariena Najea, and he agreed to let me take over the OP in Oct. 2010 because I had more time to compile the findings into a central list. The findings, of course, are thanks to all the folks who post here! I appreciate the well wishes, but please do not mistake that I should get anything near sole credit for this project.
Cheers & Happy Hunting, Luny
Thanks a lot to Luny for taking care of this thread over the past 1.5 years! We have steadily come closer to the "real" min and max end of DMG for certain req and Luny kept everything in order, so that everyone has been able to check. By taking over the OP I implemented some of my own design ideas in order to make it way easier to actually use the list as reference. I hope everyone is happy with it In case you have any ideas about how to improve the thread in any way - feel free to PM or post! Thanks and have fun @ farming, screening and posting, cheers Red

Red Fireball

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2010

HSBC

W/

*empty - in case OP will get too long or possibly for Gallery

Luny´s OP

List updated up to and including post 426, page 22, Feb. 12, 2012.

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Do you wonder what the game's maximum and now minimum possible damage, energy, armor, etc. for each requirement level are? We do, too! Let's keep notes!
  • This is a work in progress showing the max and min stats we've found so far for drops by requirement (or widely understood/known max values.) If you find a better version, post us a screenshot and tell us when and where it dropped!

  • Please be detailed when posting a new record here! We need ...
    • to know if the item dropped before or after the release of the Nightfall campaign. (The drop tables seem to have changed when NF was released. Stats from gear that dropped before NF are are listed "Pre NF." It is unlikely that we'll complete the max stats by requirement for every Pre NF item. It is even less likely that we'll ever determine if there was a difference before and after NF for the min stats by req.)
    • a picture! Take a screenshot if at all possible and include it with your post. If you really have no way to take shots yourself, ask in your post - perhaps someone from this thread can meet you in game and take the picture from a trade window.
    • Not quite sure if your item sets a new record? Please do go ahead and post a picture with what you know about when and where it dropped. It's better to risk posting something that isn't a new record that risk missing out on something that is!

  • Even junky white, blue and purple drops may show us info on the actual minimums and maximums in the game's programming, so keep an eye on those and feel free to post shots.

  • Pay attention to both the min and max damage listed, as there may be multiple records for any given req. (For example, 6-25 and 7-24 for the same req. axe.) Staffs are a special case, as they have three built-in stats: HSR, energy and damage. Even if your staff has only one stat that breaks a current record, please post it.

  • We will list the best and worst stat(s) we find for each req. level. If you get an item drop with the same stats as are already pictured here you're certainly allowed to post a pic, but the list will usually include a link to only the first posted pic of the record-breaking (max or min) stats found so far. The Gallery in a single post may or may not ever be compiled.
For items which still drop today, we believe there is no difference between inscribable and inherent sources when it comes to the range of stats for any given requirement level. Based on the data we've seen there was apparent consensus in discussion before the Jan. 23, 2012 update, and we decided we had enough data to support that theory. From this update forward we no longer track inscribable and inherent source area loot separately.

We're also curious to find the minimum req. items can still drop with gold text. So let's see some screenshots of current gold-text loot drops for every req., every weapon and see if we can't find the current limits. Ideally, show us screenshots of unidentified gold loot still on the ground "Assigned to" someone so there is no question that they're recent. In a pinch, a screenshot of a gold inscribable item after it is picked up is also acceptable.
(There are some r0 gold items still in the game, but there has been no news of the game still producing gold items in extremely low requirements. We'd like to figure out the lower limit(s) req. for new gold-text loot to drop. The prediction is that golds don't drop below r4 anymore.)



Swords

Axes
Note: Some non-max axes have a minimum damage as high as 7. (Max. axes have a range of 6-28 damage.)

Hammers

Bows

Daggers

Spears

Scythes
Note: Some non-max scythes have a minimum damage as high as 10. (Max. scythes have a range of 9-41 damage.)

Shields

Staffs
Staff statistics are listed in the format of HSR/ENE/DMG: built-in chance for half skill recharge, built-in energy, damage range. The various minimums and maximums for each of those three stats may not be linked.

We thought white and blue staffs dropped as loot can have up to 10 energy and 11-22 damage in r9 or higher, but they couldn't have over 17% built-in HSR. (Purple and gold loot staffs can have all three stats maxed in r9 or higher.) Thanks to Yawgmoth for this explanation.
On Feb. 7, 2012, fallenangel found a blue staff with 18% HSR which proves there's a more complex system at work here. We need to watch white and blue staffs more closely!

Staffs which dropped before an update made them all include 20% (max) all spells HSR do not have the same base stats as modern staffs. Those are not included on this list, but "max" versions could be found with req. as low as 7. Pleikki has a screenshot of a "max" one. phoenixtech has a screenshot of a no-req one.

Wands

Foci

Thanks to everyone who helps out!

If you notice mistakes or have suggestions for improvements, please feel free to let us know!

Looking for PC advice?
This thread really is simply a research project to try to determine the game code's limits for drops. If you think your low-req item might be valuable, there is a Price Check section of Ventari's as well as a forum search tool and auction system you can sometimes use to find PC history for similar items. In general, there is little use for non-max martial or spellcasting weapons outside of presearing, so such things will probably not be worth much, if anything, in the player-to-player market. There is/has been demand for some types of min-req/max-stat inscribable shields and foci. Without an inscription slot, there is almost no demand unless the particular shield or focus includes two, max or near-max and desirable inherent bonus mods.

"This list hasn't been updated recently."
I don't always have as much time for GW and Guru as I'd like, so yes the OP here does get out of date. Sorry. However, PLEASE do keep reporting findings! As has happened in the past, someone else may take over maintaining this thread or I might get an update done myself. The data you submit is interesting and helpful to folks even if it doesn't appear in the original list in a timely fashion. (See this post if you're interested in taking over stewardship of this OP.)
Please note, this thread is far from "Luny's." This project was inspired by an April 2008 thread from Moloch Vein. This particular thread was started in June 2010 by Ariena Najea, and he agreed to let me take over the OP in Oct. 2010 because I had more time to compile the findings into a central list. The findings, of course, are thanks to all the folks who post here! I appreciate the well wishes, but please do not mistake that I should get anything near sole credit for this project.
Cheers & Happy Hunting, Luny

Ariena Najea

Ariena Najea

Silence and Motion

Join Date: Jul 2006

Buffalo NY

New Horizon [NH]

Gallery

If you would like your screenshot(s) to be added to the gallery, please say so in your post.

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Ariena
*will post later*

_Todeshand_

_Todeshand_

I <3 unconditional

Join Date: Jul 2007

Ascalon City Int. 1

Ashfords Last Heirs [olsq]

hmm.... are we also allowed to post pics of weapons we sold?

Also Shieldies are missing in your list^^


EDIT:

If so:

for the Hammers. I sold that in mid 2008 or so. If screenie isn't good enough, I think I have some more

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Quote:
Sword
Req 8 - 15-22
Req 7 - 15-22 (pre-nerf), 15-21? (post-nerf) Post nerf 14-21 i thinks or 14-20
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Axe
Req 8 - 6-28
Req 7 - 6-28 (pre-nerf), 6-27? (post-nerf) Post nerf i think 6-25
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1


Hammer
Req 8 - 19-35
Req 7 19-35 (nerfed yeye)
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Bow
Req 8 - 15-28
Req 7 - 14-25?
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Dagger
Req 8 - 7-17
Req 7 - 7-16?
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Spear
Req 8 12-25 ive seen
Req 7
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Scythe
Req 8
Req 7
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Staff
Req 8 - 11-22, HSR 20%
Req 7 11-22, Nerfed, i think highest possible now is 10-20, Used own this:

Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Wand
Req 8 - 11-22
Req 7 10-20 me thinks
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Focus
Req 8 - 12 energy
Req 7 12energ
Req 6 11energ, i had one of these dropping lil ago
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Theres my opinions on few

LicensedLuny

Badly Influenced

Join Date: Dec 2005

Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread)

Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish

Cheers Ari!

A couple suggestions if you're willing to take this on ...
  • You forgot shields.
  • Add no-req to the list below req. 1
  • I'm guessing that in addition to pre/post nerf stats for inherent gear, you'll need a separate column for inscribable gear. For example, the max available armor on a req 7 inherent shield is 16, but it's 15 for inscribable shields.
  • You might also consider listings for things like axes and scythes where non-max versions can appear with above max minimum damage. Like 7-24 on an axe and 10-31 on a scythe. (I'm not sure if that happens on any other weapon types.)

So here are ones I can help with.

Inscribable Shields that I've seen and/or still have:
no-req the max armor is 8
r5 the max armor is 13
r6 the max armor is 14
r7 the max armor is 15
r8 the max armor is 16
I think that's fairly common knowledge, but if you need screenshots I can make some for some of those.

Inscribable Swords: I'm pretty sure there have been a few r8 15-22 inscribable swords around. I don't know of any other inscribable weapon that's been known to exist with max damage and lower than r9.

I have attached screenshots for the following. Some I still have; some I saw in trade windows.

Inscribable (recurve, hornbow & longbow) bow: r8 14-26
Inscribable spear: r2 9-13
Inscribable scythe:
- r8 9-39
- r5 10-31
Inscribable daggers:
- r6 6-13
- r7 7-15
- r8 7-16
Inscribable foci:
- no req e+6
- r2 e+7
- r6 e+11 no, it's not a typo.
- r7 e+11
- r8 e+12

Inherent foci:
- r6 e+11 (The one in the picture dropped in NM Wajjun Bazaar on Nov 18, 2009)
- r7 e+11 (The one in the picture dropped in HM Diessa Lowlands on Apr. 29, 2010)



EDIT - Dec. 15, 2010 - It seems I've hit a cap or glitch with guru attachments, so I'm editing all my posts here with photobucket-hosted versions of these pics instead

EDIT - Feb. 12, 2012 - fixing thumb link to direct instead of photobucket album

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

For the last couple months I've been doing a similar research myself (among a few others), but only counting weapons that can drop now, every one recorded I have seen drop myself and have screenshotted the more exceptional ones.

A

BOLD are weapons that I confirm seeing that I believe are max for a given req which can drop now
if not bold then I believe a better one may be possible, but I haven't witnessed one.

ALL OF THEM CAN DROP NOW:

Shield
R0 8
R1 9
R2 10
R3 11
R4 12
R5 13
R6 14
R7 15
R8 16

it's a simple linear function here, no exceptions.


Focus
R0 6
R1 6 - can r1/7 drop?
R2 7 - can r2/8 drop?
R3 8
R4 9 (most likely max)
R5 10
R6 11
R7 11
R8 12

Daggers
R0 ?
R1 ?
R2 ?
R3 5-10
R4 ?
R5 7-12 - - maybe 7-13 is possible but haven't seen
R6 7-13 - - maybe 7-14 is possible but haven't seen
R7 7-15
R8 7-16

Axe
.. need moar data
R6 7-21
R7 6-25
R8 6-26

Sword
R6 13-18 - - at least a 13-19 should still drop or even better
R7 14-20 - - at least a 14-21 should still drop
R8 15-22

Hammer
R6 17-30 - may be best possible r6

Bow
R4 12-19
R5 ?
R6 13-22
R7 14-25
R8 14-27 - should be max and I should have a screenshot

Staff HSR/ENE/DMG
R5 16/8/9-15
R6 17/9/10-18
R7 16/10/11-20
R8 19/9/11-20

Wand
R0 7-11
R1 ? - 7-12?
R2 ?
R3 ?
R4 9-16
R5 9-16 - surely can be better
R6 10-19
R7 11-20
R8 11-21

Scythe
R6 9-31 - - seems it can be better
R7 9-35 - - seems it can be better
R8 9-39 - - heard rumors of 9-40 but never seen

Spear
.. all data I got here is I believe way below max possible ones, except this:
R8 14-26

I should have screenshot of most interesting ones of those, but I don't have them organised so finding can take some time. Most are screenshotted as drops assigned to me or someone in my party. Ask for a specific one if really needed.

Atro

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

Join Date: Sep 2009

Where don't I live?

A/

Hope this helps any with the low req axe research



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Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

I kept a couple of scythes I thought had nice stats:

R5: 10-32 (Bronze Scythe)
R7: 10-35 (Duskblade Scythe)

Both are goldies btw (and of course inscribable).

talon994

talon994

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2009

Ontario,Canada

聖光麒麟

W/

Hopefully the attachment works.

Metalmaster

Metalmaster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Guardians of the Stars

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElementalShadows View Post
Hope this helps any with the low req axe research

I have one with the same damage but lower req.

ladylady

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

The Pink Animal Clan [pink]

http://img413.imageshack.us/f/gw120a.jpg/

Posted by Pleikki in the q7-q8 thread

Tommy's

Tommy's

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2006

[Bone]

Mo/

Just got a q7 Hammer on Sjing Jea Island thing. 17-30 15^50 Q7 Runic Hammer.
Probably higher dmg possible as I think these stats are possible with Q6 aswell. Anyway, might help you out for a sorta guideline

Artaban

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2009

[TWWT]

About staffs, i've had recently a q8 11-21 drop, dont remeber the hrs tho

Red Fireball

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2010

HSBC

W/

well, cause I´m playing pre as well, I can say something about req0 and low reqs:
sword
req0 8-10
req5 12-16 (minimum, prolly droppable with req4 as well)
req7 15-22 (not droppable anymore)
req8 15-22
axe (stats I´ve seen) - even 7-19 ones exist here, but undroppable nowadays (was a bug - fixed within 24 hours)
req0 6-12
req1 6-14
req2 6-15
req3 6-17
req4 6-19
req7 6-28 (not droppable anymore)
req8 6-28
bow
req0 9-14
req8 15-28 (saw several of these, but dunno if still droppable)
hammer
req0 11-15
req5 15-25 (minimum, maybe droppable with req4)
req7 19-35 (not droppable anymore)
req8 19-35
shield
dito yawgmoth
and ofc the old req7 16 shields...
offhands
dito yawgmoth
and ofc the old req7 12 ene offhands (saw a 10/10 one here - OMG)
wands
req0 7-11
req7 11-22 (not droppable anymore)
req8 11-22
staves
req0 7-11 15%HSR +7ene (never seen the combination, but seen req0 HSR15 ene+6 7-10 and req0 7-11 HSR13 ene+7)
req7 11-22 (not droppable anymore)
req8 11-22

an interesting pic can be found here: (it´s german, so just klick the button "Waffen - meine 80% des Zaishentitels" and you´ll find the best ever weps, stats in english)
best weps ever - here
cheers

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Originally Posted by Red Fireball View Post
well, cause I´m playing pre as well, I can say something about req0 and low reqs:
Great, best presearing items collections will be the best source of info about best possible drops for the lower req's.

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axe (stats I´ve seen) - even 7-19 ones exist here, but undroppable nowadays (was a bug - fixed within 24 hours)
I'm 100% sure it's NOT a bug and it was NOT fixed. Axes can still drop with 7 minimum damage, even recently I have got a 7-21 (req.6) in post. They're just extreme rare in pre and it's absolutely normal that none have been reported to drop for quite a long time. How do you know about 24 hours? There have been quite a few of them 2-3 years ago.

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req8 15-28 (saw several of these, but dunno if still droppable)
- definately can't drop.

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wands
req0 7-11
req7 11-22 (not droppable anymore)
req8 11-22
I've never seen a req7 11-22 WAND (only 2 staves), are you sure about this?
Also I'm sure a req.8 11-22 cannot drop anymore.
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staves
req0 7-11 15%HSR +7ene (never seen the combination, but seen req0 HSR15 ene+6 7-10 and req0 7-11 HSR13 ene+7)
req7 11-22 (not droppable anymore)
req8 11-22
15% HSR on a req.0 staff gets my must see a screenshot, sounds really unbelievable

as for the req8 11-22 staff, those cannot drop with HSR 20% anymore, and highest possible HSR on a req8 11-22 after the nerf hasn't yet been determined (highest I got was only 16%)

Quote:
an interesting pic can be found here: (it´s german, so just klick the button "Waffen - meine 80% des Zaishentitels" and you´ll find the best ever weps, stats in english)
best weps ever - here
cheers
Wow, customized q7 15^50 axe and hammer, and q7 +5ene sword custo on a monk.

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post

15% HSR on a req.0 staff gets my must see a screenshot, sounds really unbelievable


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Ok about this i gotta ask, U used be able get in early 2005 those No req 10energy staves, with both inhers gold, wonder if anyone seen those with Good mods? ive seen some 10hct orso ones and crap dualmods, nothing intresting.

Also Yawgmoth which r7 staffs u've seen?

Red Fireball

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2010

HSBC

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post
Great, best presearing items collections will be the best source of info about best possible drops for the lower req's.
axe (stats I´ve seen) - even 7-19 ones exist here, but undroppable nowadays (was a bug - fixed within 24 hours)
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post
I'm 100% sure it's NOT a bug and it was NOT fixed. Axes can still drop with 7 minimum damage, even recently I have got a 7-21 (req.6) in post. They're just extreme rare in pre and it's absolutely normal that none have been reported to drop for quite a long time. How do you know about 24 hours? There have been quite a few of them 2-3 years ago.
well, maybe the 7-... was just a bug in pre and always existed in post... dunno. But a very experienced pre-player said that these 7-19 axes just dropped for one day in pre: they just dropped that single day and never before and never since any of these dropped. that single day about 10-20 of these axes dropped (numbers differ a bit, none with 14^50 or 13^50 reported...), so I´m pretty sure it was a bug...


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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post
I've never seen a req7 11-22 WAND (only 2 staves), are you sure about this?
sorry, not sure about this, just saw loads of req8 and guessed they´d drop in req7 as well, as the staves, with same DMG. But I´ve seen more than 2 Staves q7 max DMG.
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post
15% HSR on a req.0 staff gets my must see a screenshot, sounds really unbelievable
saw this one about 3months ago ingame in the early days of my pre character. Didn´t know it was rare back then. I regret not having taken a screenshot, but it definitely exists! (got screens of HSR 14% if you need... took these after I found out that they are rare -.-)

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post
as for the req8 11-22 staff, those cannot drop with HSR 20% anymore, and highest possible HSR on a req8 11-22 after the nerf hasn't yet been determined (highest I got was only 16%)
well, I saw some q8 HSR20% ene +10, but dunno if they dropped pre- or post-nerf...


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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post
Wow, customized q7 15^50 axe and hammer, and q7 +5ene sword custo on a monk.
:-)
knew you´d like these screens, he´s my guildleader. if you change to that other character called "Extrem Abgeher" you´ll find screens of some of the best pre weps, all customized for that warrior (even a pre-max DMG pulling Longbow... ).

following spirit

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2010

The imperial Guards of Vabbi (TIGV)

Rt/

I had a gold R7 14-25 celestial longbow drop whilst farming vermin last night +15% dam, -10 armor. I hope this helps.

Red Fireball

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2010

HSBC

W/

just got a energy10 q5 blood idol as a drop (oldschool, blue, dropped by lvl 18 scale)

Ultimadiorifiamma

Ultimadiorifiamma

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Under the Tower

OdDO

E/Me

Hi
Hope this helps any with the low req staff.
Let me know your opinion.



Ciao,Ultima.

_Todeshand_

_Todeshand_

I <3 unconditional

Join Date: Jul 2007

Ascalon City Int. 1

Ashfords Last Heirs [olsq]

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post

Wow, customized q7 15^50 axe and hammer, and q7 +5ene sword custo on a monk.

I can confirm those. Sold all 3 to Walles. He always custo'd directly after buying <3

My best customer ever

He also had a req7 max. Wand I think - searching for a screen.

Found:

http://www.wartower.de/forum/showthread.php?t=653063 (Stock= Cane)

Also there's another req8 post-nerf staff... 20/20 even.

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

wow r7 wand, never seen or heard about one, guess they excist then, and understandable theyre rare like staffs, but there aint daggers or bows r7 tho

which staff that is btw

_Todeshand_

_Todeshand_

I <3 unconditional

Join Date: Jul 2007

Ascalon City Int. 1

Ashfords Last Heirs [olsq]

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Originally Posted by Pleikki View Post
wow r7 wand, never seen or heard about one, guess they excist then, and understandable theyre rare like staffs, but there aint daggers or bows r7 tho

which staff that is btw

Clairvoyant Staff req8 Domi 20/20.

I think both weapons were from one of Walles' friends and they were inactive when I last asked him about them. Still I believe him that those exist as there is a) a screen that doesn't look like a fake, b) he doesn't need to fake weapons for showing off, because I know he has some real hot shizzle (req7 15^50 War Hammer, Great Axe; req7 5nrg Dadao, req7 shields (he gave them away to randoms though when he "quit" same time as me), req7 5nrg Crenellated, req9 15-5 Crysta, req9 15^50 Dwarven, etc.) and c) he told me and I trust him.

Redvex

Redvex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

R/

That's my bow. Little unlucky for 14^50 but still good.

BuD

BuD

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Nunya

E/Mo

Another low req

Ultimadiorifiamma

Ultimadiorifiamma

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Under the Tower

OdDO

E/Me

Hi
I don't know if it can be useful to update the data on staff list from Yawgmoth.
This is a recent drop in NM.
Ciao,Ultima

tghoodoo

tghoodoo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2008

Seafarer's Rest

Eternal Clarity [Ankh]

Me/

Q6 6-22 Axe, ill post screenshot later (not on my pc and feelin lazy)

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimadiorifiamma View Post
Hi
Hope this helps any with the low req staff.
Let me know your opinion.



Ciao,Ultima.
Nice one, do you remember if it's a recent drop?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimadiorifiamma View Post
Hi
I don't know if it can be useful to update the data on staff list from Yawgmoth.
This is a recent drop in NM.
Ciao,Ultima

I have had one with identical stats drop for me aswell, just haven't updated the list on this thread yet.
But as a matter of fact I've also found a 15/9/10-16 req.5 (purple, from maguuma chest) which makes my personal list now as it's probably better, just not strictly better. It may hint a possibility of a 16/9/10-16 req.5, but it depends on whether the stats of staffs are generated separetely or are connected and dependant on each other. Despite the tons of research I still haven't found out that thing.

If stats of staves were generated separately, then for example it would be enough to find a 20% HSR one with req.8 and a different one with 11-22dmg req.8 to prove that a perfect 20/10/11-22 req.8 can still be a possible drop.

The Real Avalon

The Real Avalon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium, Ostend.

Mo/A

Just had a req 1 6-10 plagueborn scepter drop for me if that helps.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

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Join Date: Apr 2005

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Originally Posted by The Real Avalon View Post
Just had a req 1 6-10 plagueborn scepter drop for me if that helps.
The max currently droppable damage range for No Req wands and staffs is 7-11 and they're pretty common - you can get loads in PreSearing or from 40g chests.
Req.1 can probably be slightly higher but I haven't been recording data on the lowest of reqs so can't say if it's 8-11 or 7-12 or 8-12 (probably not higher than that).

Bullets Mcdeath

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2009

Im interested in finding out what max damage for an r3 spear is since it would actually have some use beyond collecting. Anyone want to help ?

jimbo32

jimbo32

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2008

Canada

Gentlemens Club [GC]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post
Nice one, do you remember if it's a recent drop?

I have had one with identical stats drop for me aswell, just haven't updated the list on this thread yet.
But as a matter of fact I've also found a 15/9/10-16 req.5 (purple, from maguuma chest) which makes my personal list now as it's probably better, just not strictly better. It may hint a possibility of a 16/9/10-16 req.5, but it depends on whether the stats of staffs are generated separetely or are connected and dependant on each other. Despite the tons of research I still haven't found out that thing.

If stats of staves were generated separately, then for example it would be enough to find a 20% HSR one with req.8 and a different one with 11-22dmg req.8 to prove that a perfect 20/10/11-22 req.8 can still be a possible drop.
Had this drop a few days ago while farming gold coins for Nick - "The Captured Son" NM.



So 16/8/10-17 is definitely possible

If anyone collects low-req stuff, shoot me a PM. I was just going to merch it.

kretencina

kretencina

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2008

Serbia

--- アoo アugs アlan --- [ァアァ]

W/

hmmmm i got a blue q8 9-40 scythe..... wondering if its something good, 1 off max q8 :S
can provide a ss if anyone wants

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullets Mcdeath View Post
Im interested in finding out what max damage for an r3 spear is since it would actually have some use beyond collecting. Anyone want to help ?
I recommend soloing some lvl 10-11 Paragon mobs on Istan for a best chance of those (blues). Don't have time to search for best ones now myself but it could be a worthwhile future project. I'd expect something around 10-14, but it's just rough estimate without collecting real data.

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Originally Posted by jimbo32 View Post
Had this drop a few days ago while farming gold coins for Nick - "The Captured Son" NM.



So 16/8/10-17 is definitely possible

If anyone collects low-req stuff, shoot me a PM. I was just going to merch it.
Very nice! Still not *strictly* better than mine because of just +8 energy. But the bars have been risen and we're even further from proving if the 3 base stats of staffs are interconnected when being generated or not. This is extremelly difficult to prove because the rarity rises dramatically with every stat increase. So now, if the stats are treated separately upon generation, the best req.5 staff would be at least a 16/9/10-17.

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hmmmm i got a blue q8 9-40 scythe..... wondering if its something good, 1 off max q8 :S
can provide a ss if anyone wants
Best I have seen was q8 9-39 (selffound, twice, while farming raptors - I was on the lookout for highest q8s scythes and spears ever since NF release, and tons of raptors' white/blue drops were always a great source for that. q8 9-40 must be really rare as I've never seen people anywhere ask for pc or try to sell (only remember reading about one once before). Very very rough rarity estimate would be it's at least 4x more rare than a q8 15-22 sword.

kretencina

kretencina

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2008

Serbia

--- アoo アugs アlan --- [ァアァ]

W/

here's the scythe i've been talking about
http://s540.photobucket.com/albums/g...rent=gw001.jpg

not sure if i should put it on for sale since i dont think anyone would pay much for it, although i can see that q8 9-39 was max you peeps saw.... so 9-40 would be max actually? nvr heard of q8 9-41 drops O.o

Ultimadiorifiamma

Ultimadiorifiamma

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Under the Tower

OdDO

E/Me

A little contribute
Hope can help,especially for daggers.
(Recent drop)
Ciao,Ultima.

Shadow K N I F E

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2008

IGN: Unholey Warior

Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

R/

Got this while farming feathered caromi scalps back when Nick was collecting them.




EDIT: Just realized Metalmasters post (#10) had a sephis with the same req. and damage (and inherent). Oh well, here's another

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Either I was really lucky yesterday or those aren't as rare as I have originally expected - just got this drop:

I've been closely observing the stats even of clean whites in search for possible highest dmg for low reqs for years, including extensive farming sessions and it's surely the first I got.

Another thing, despite all the contributions here, I think we're still very far off when it comes to the lower (below 7) req weapons. Even that very nice 6-17 (req.4) axe is probably not the best, I suspect at least 6-18 to be possible, just haven't seen one yet. And we will probably never get it for the staves - so many possibilities, all hope is in proving the theory of independant stat generation.

Remember, screenshots even of whites are exactly as helpful as golds, more is better, farm low stuff for fun and profit

Red Fireball

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2010

HSBC

W/

well for axes 6-19 req4 is definitely possible, had two of these in pre (without DMG-mod, purple ofc )
Also had a 8-13 req2 wand

-> screen attached!

*edit: they are post-nf-release (just to confirm)