Ban hammer lifted?

After the demanding a response from anet about botting I know that they banned 3,700 botters.. but by some estimates only about 1000 ppl were actually affected. My question is what have they done after that? nothing? or have they continued to ban bots at a incredible rate?.. I would imagine they just went back to their old ways but I would REALLY like to be wrong.


please advise,
Merek

Well quite likely, they continue to check for dll injection of the variety that was previously used and then remove people if they are silly enough to try it that way, outside of that, they said they have added a bunch of people to help combat that, what that means is a bit vague but I would guess that the current threat of the reaper will slow down the regular user while the mass botter will attempt to find new ways around the reaper

this is what they are doing.

source: Recent Account Bans | Anet Blog

the 3700 was from months of work on their part for detection. Don't be surprised if it is a few months until another banning announcement is made, if another one is made in the future at all.

I realize that but are they actually doing anything about it?.. because anet can sit here all day and say that but until we see more results we will never know until they come back with another report.

You'll know that there was another round of banning when there is another round of agonized screaming on Guild Wars forums.

BAN THE BOTTERS NOW!

Waa!


Is that agonized enough?

The days of epic QQ following the announcement was enough proof for me that a heck of a lot of (rich) botters got smacked.

How are we supposed to know? You don't want to take Anet's word on the matter, but what resources do we have to say they are or aren't working on it still? Only thing we can do is tell you what we have seen or heard. Unless you want to be stupid enough to buy accounts, find bot programs, use them, and see if they get banned, nothing can be said other than what Anet has said. But be warned, I am NOT suggesting ANYONE try to test it out by using bots to see if they get banned. Anet will not ban just one account, but any account associated with it (IP, email, character name, etc.).

Unless you want to screw yourself by 'testing' Anet, you can only wait to see what happens.

We have just seen the most results that we have ever seen in GW with regards to botters, and you are already clamoring for more?! What, do you think that anet is just posturing and only saying that they will ban more? Is 3700 not enough for you to have at least some small trust that they will continue to pursue botters?

Of course they are continuing to pursue botters! It is a non-stop process that never ends. Just because you don't see immediate results every second of everyday doesn't mean it isn't happening. Patience is a virtue, *sigh*.

"it is a non stop process that never ends" EXACTLY! and for the past year? two years? Anet has almost COMPLETELY ignored the botting situation and let it get out of control,flood the market and depreciate the value everything guildwars. Now that they finally do something about it I should just lavish them with all sorts of praise?.. no, we need more results and until we see them I will not be impressed they have sold 6million copies and they ban 3700 there are many more out there. It has been almost 2 weeks since the last ban so how about another 4k botters gone? that would be fabulous.

please prove me wrong in my accusations anet that would be a great day when guild wars goes back to actual players not bots.

hey im preety sure they've been working hard on banning botters. its not as easy to say "that guy is doing the same thing over and over" that could be just a regular guy jsut trying to farm.
so its not as easy as scanning the game saying"Ohhh there's a bot in rata, or theres a bot in kama." you need to have patience and look @ ig patterens...

so jsut wait.. they may take awhile but it will be solved.

False. It has been 2 weeks since the mass ban, not 2 weeks since the last ban...

I'll test it out, I have a few accounts laying around from the Xunlai House days. Give me a few days and I'll see exactly what happens. I honestly rarely play GW these days, and if it helps the community I have no problem doing it.

Um.....they already have. There's already an undetectable form of GWCA out now (although, it's private for the time being) and a new type of API is being worked on now which will basically make pixel-botting insanely viable (meaning that you could bot-farm PvP/PvE with programs similar to TextMod or hotkeys).

Until they re-hash the client/completely prevent .dll injecting, this will never end. There's no way Anet can keep up with these botters. I don't even want to tell you about some of their plans to hack GM controls in-game......oops

i dont think anyone asked you to do anything. you started this thred didnt ya?? Anet is dealing with the botting issue the best way they can with the resources availble.

If you had them on the lie detector i think they would say " There are much much more pressing issues." However they took a nice whack at all the botters with the last go round.

Further more when did everyone come to the conclusion that Anet some how owes individuals anything. They sold us a game we play it and they maintain it the waythey see fit. Unless you own Stock in the company, let them do their jobs and quash it already.

ban people and they bawl.
dont ban enough or fast enough they bawl.

Cronk

KJ I know the way it works, it is similar to the way the old Diablo II bots work based on pixels and colors. Completely undetectable by Anet and NCSoft, and will defiantly be out here in a few months or so to the public I expect. It is pretty neat stuff that has been around for awhile, but it was easier to use GWCA for botting purposes.

I'm certain they're still at it

I heard Dhuum as I was loading into Shing Jea Monastery the other day. When I fully loaded, I saw someone dead on the ground on fire near the stairs surrounded by people and disappeared shortly after. General chat was nuts with laughs and banscythe banter, "another noob bites the dust," etc...

I'm sure a lot of it is done when the players are offline or inside an instance as well, so we just can't see it in process. There's no reason to "test" Anet, I'm sure they care a lot more than you give them credit for

You, sir, are crazy, fanatical and over-demanding. Be happy that Anet is even sharing with us information about bans. They no doubt have banned thousands upon thousands of accounts over the years. Just because they don't tell us about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

What are Anet doing about it? Here you are talking about it. Apart from catching the people already botting, they are putting forth a strong deterrent from anyone thinking of starting to use bots. It’s the old justice not only has to be done it has to be seen to be done.

There used to be outposts that were thick with bots. Everyone commented on it. No one did anything about it. Now people will report the char name in the hope that an account using botts will be found and Dhuum will make another appearance in town. Anet have found an incentive for people to report potential botts. Good on them.

It’s not like Anet know of everyone who has used a bot and just can’t be bothered banning them. Banning is a huge thing. They need to be sure beyond the shadow of a doubt that the account is being abused. Ban even one account if someone hadn’t used a bot and the bad PR would be huge. You should applaud them for being thorough and treating the bans with the respect it deserves rather than as some spectator sport.

I am crazy?.... first off you have little to no basis for that accusation second I say dear sir if anyone is crazy it would be the one who is blindly following whatever a video game company tells you. Third we have a RIGHT to know we purchased a product and want our full money's worth.. When I bought Guild Wars it was a quality product but slowly it has been declining into the jaws of oblivion.. another game on the shelf.. another microcosm in history. Also it isn't very kind to call someone crazy fanatical and over-demanding for wanting a company to do their job to the highest level possible. Now does this mean I want them to ban 4,000 a week? No, it means I would like to see a continuation of what they have started.. to finish the job not just appease the masses.

They are continuing the job, you just aren't happy with the way they have shown us that (by saying it). You evidently want visual proof. This has problems though. Visual proof can provide the people they are banning a way to avoid it, it also takes time and money (to pay staff) to not only work on the bans, but to make it visually obvious, and it still may not satisfy everyone. Anet should not base their decisions on their customers opinion on something like this. They should base their decisions on company policy, legal concerns, and financial responsibility. Just because a bot gets banned today does not mean Anet should be posting a log-in announcement about a single ban. However, that single ban will still happen, and you won't notice it happen unless it was you or a friend of yours. Large scale bans like they did a few days ago won't happen often, and when they do, it will be the result of a lot of data compilation. Now that a large number of bat accounts were banned, those people either need to start new accounts and bot again (which isn't as easy when IP bans were issued) or new methods to detect and ban the previously undetected bots need to be developed.

And don't forget, not all the bans were from botting, some were match manipulation. And some bans that have occured prior to the 3700 were from multiple 'minor' infractions that added up to a permanent ban.

Although not an accurate analogy, you are essentially asking your 10 year old neighbor's kid with an ant farm of 1000 ants to notify you when any ant dies or a new ant is hatched. Possible, but not easy to do, and why would the kid care if one ant died and tell you about it?

We paid for the game, but we are not paying for service. This means we have no right to demand Anet add game updates (which they do), no right to demand they provide game monitoring, and no right to demand they remove problem accounts. They do this because it is good business - keeping the customers happy so they will buy more products. You may not trust they are still working on detecting and banning bots, but they said they are, so we can only assume they are, or are lying to us. They do not need to prove they are doing what they say they are doing.

^^^Really you have no legal rights to anything outside of getting what you paid for. IE you paid 39.99 for this campaign. thats it chief. You have no rights to anything. As for the melo-dramatic slowly declining into the jaws of oblivion?? You should join 6th century theater. I think you would excell at that. And as for as another microcosm in history?? i got nothin. Im not sure what thats even suppose to mean.

If you are claiming GW is being kicked to the curb like so many other games then i suppose you might be right in that aspect. GW will commit only so much resources to this title. If this upsets you to the point where you rap poetic than you seriously need to find a new hobby.

I think this topic has been bashed to a bloody pulp, but meh whatever.

Bottom line for me is, this game is Exactly what i payed for. I bought all 4 titles and they are what they advertised. Many of the changes they made i think are miserable, but its not my shareholders money so i can just shut my damn mouth.


Cronk

You don't know if you purchased a product or You don't know if you want your moneys worth

So do you want to leave your phone number here and we will have Anet give you a call everytime they ban someone?

And as far as your "RIGHTS" go
Give that shot.